All that doesn´t justifies that in my oppinion. If you have a rule like this in the EULA from the start, like VALVE for HL2, then even if its not nice, it at least is in there and people accepted that, no matter if they like it or not.

But in case of vB, its not in the EULA of this Software. And just to update it would be far less popular for customers. Loosing Customers for things like that wouldn´t really speak for the Company that makes the Product.

I am speaking also for myself. If I would have to rebuy a license while i still have a valid one, that would really p*** me off. I mean this would be like the purchase was a hokes, and if its suits just to change it to make more money. I still hope that this won´t be the fact and will not happen. But, as much as I really come to love vB, I would not go to vB 4.x and would leave and do my luck with another Software, less perfect or not.

So lets just hope it doesn´t come to that, for all that would be concerned in that case. I really hope that vB will not do a step like this. Its the best Forum Software i´ve ever had and I hate to see this happen.

But that's just what I'm saying, your still getting a product for what you paid for. It's not like their revoking your license, of forcing you to purchase anything. The only thing your theoretically missing out on, and again, I don't really recall them saying this specifically, but allegedly the only thing your missing out on is an upgrade. But your still going to have access to 3.8 and the support that goes with it.

Again, did I miss something? Did vB say all you late buyers weren't going to get any kind of concession, or is everyone just jumping to the worst case conclusion?

I'm happy to pay the fee, but only if there are clear benefits to updating to verion 4.

For me thats the normal way in the Business.
If you buy now Windows Vista and in some months MS release Windows 7, do you belive you'll get if for free?

Who would NOW by Vista, knowing WINDOWS7 is not far. And thats something different btw. ! Like i said, when vBCMS went from Version 1.x to 2.x we also didnt had to renew the License some of us just made 3 or 4 months before.

If I buy a Anti Virus now, lets say Version 8, and Version 9 will come out 6 months later, but I have a 1 year license, I also get the new Version since its in that time of my license. That is how it is.

Forcing people to buy vB4 again while they still have a valid vB3 License would be like not caring whats with the Customers and only thinking on the profit. Sorry if that sounds harsh but thats how it is. Lets hope it doesn?t come to this.

For me thats the same. Who would buy NOW vb 3.8 knowing vb4 is not far:P Sorry but i don't see any difference....
Other example=> wbb2 & wbb3
there was also no free update

It's from company to company different.

I'll ask this again, because everyone seems to be ignoring it. But where and when did vB say that late license purchasers were going to have to do that? Also, where is the "forcing" coming into this?

Ok, I like this statement right here. :up:

Who is forcing you to upgrade/buy vBulletin 4?

There isn't anything in any contract that says you have to upgrade to or purchase vBulletin 4. If it does, please fill me in on where you see that. :confused:

when is VB 4 available

and why are people saying you must purchase a new license for it ?
will there be an upgrade from V3 to V4 ?

If you look here, it says: "We are working hard and plan to have vBulletin 4.0 released in beta form by the end of Q2 2009"
Who?
Yes. There's always an upgrade. Even from V2 to V3