Hi,
@ entertain: thats an Ethnic Question :)

Jaxel, I'm not a lawyer but I don't think it's illegal to create a similar mod if they don't copy your code. You don't own the exclusive right to create a mod that embeds media...

I was a UBB user back in the day. Rick was good at what he did but ubb didn't keep up with the development of vb. My decision to move to vb wasn't based on this community. I just wanted to use the best software to build my own community.

Do you think that your unethical behavior is the kind of endorsement that will entice admins to move over to xenforo? If you're unreliable here why should anyone trust you to support your work anywhere else?

If this guy does not want to support his mod due to IB actions, then he does not have too. I do not see why all the hate. He created it, he gave it for free, and he is choosing not to, for his own reasons. His reasons are his own, who cares why.

@cherylferraro Seems like IB thinks it is illegal for similar actions.

Ironic, isn't it?

jaxel condemns IB for their legal theatrics but has adopted the same legal stance when defending his own work.

I apologize for being too harsh with jaxel. I really do like his mod and am frustrated that he abandoned it out of spite without concern about the problems that it creates for those of us that have incorporated it into our communities.

We at DBTech have had little run ins with Jaxel in the past, and while we won't be following him in ceasing work on our vB Mods (due in no small part to the obligation we feel towards our users/customers), I think that this is a case of someone making a stand for something they feel strongly about, rather than any sort of tantrum or spiteful action.

While i may not necessarily agree with the actions he is taking, I certainly respect the reasons behind it and hope that people find an amicable way around the rock/hard place situation.

Just my $0.02 on the matter.

Iain

DBTech, yes, we've had our run ins. But I have since admitted that I was wrong, and I'm hoping that we've put the sour period behind us. You sell professional versions of your products am I right? Then you have a fiduciary responsibility to keep your mods going, as you have customers who have paid for your software. All of my software is available for free; therefore I answer to no one.

We certainly have Jaxel, I was simply putting the context there so people would understand that my words came not out of a close relationship/friendship with yourself, but out of an honest observation and interpretation of the situation: That the actions you took were to support something you believed in, and not spiteful or "tantrums" as was suggested =)

(Nor did I intend to suggest in any way that you were answerable to the people who choose to use your modifications, I apologise if that is what came across)

I really do suggest you move this conversation or cease and continue with the thread topic as it was intended to be.

I will gladly offer any assistance to newbs or other members who are having problems with this mod as long as it is available for download and Jaxel continues to allow it.

Although hoster xml's are not my fort? everything else I can kind of put my finger on, as it is an awesome mod.

Thanks Jaxel, and wish you well in whatever you do.

:)

I agree with Robbie on this one - the mod is excellent and certainly worth all the effort to carry on if Jaxel allows this obviously. The thread however should now be kept on track with the IB confrontation and XenForo left to the lawyers for litigational reasons.

The whole issue seems "messy" but i for one certainly thank you for the mod as it stands.

This is really disappointing as I wanted to download this mod today.