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ZeroHour 04-09-2011 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infopro (Post 2182530)
No it's not, sorry. Not really even sure what you said past yes, but it's not. Not that I can tell anyway.


Anyone who has this installed, try and collapse one of your cats. From what I can tell, clicking collapse blows up your sites style. Try it and see.

Most of these files for this mod are years old. It may work somewhat but is it using the latest fixes and updates in line with vb? I'm not sure.

I don't believe most all of this CSS is needed either.

Erm its not possible? If you say had 5 forums and wanted a tab for each, yes it is possible...
I run 4.1.3 without issue with this mod, do you actually have it installed or have you even tried it?
Remove the collapse links cures the problem in the interim.

Santori 04-10-2011 11:56 AM

As i said; I solved the collapse buttol issue, but not with this mod.
I make the modifications by hand.

Infopro 04-11-2011 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroHour (Post 2182584)
Erm its not possible? If you say had 5 forums and wanted a tab for each, yes it is possible...
I run 4.1.3 without issue with this mod, do you actually have it installed or have you even tried it?
Remove the collapse links cures the problem in the interim.

Your own forum blows up when clicking collapse.

Of course I have installed it to test it, why would someone bother to comment on something they had not tested and are interested in using?

Show me on your site where you have 5 forums linked to these tabs. You have only categories linked that I can see, not specific forums.

If removing the collapse is needed then it should be mentioned in the instructions. If it's not mentioned, one might assume they should still work.

DjEddie 04-11-2011 03:47 PM

Hey..

Is there a way to make a Module tab be the default tab instead of a normal tab?

I want to create a display that will be welcoming in a module tab and I want that module tab to be the first tab that opens up when the member loads the forum page..

Is this possible?

Thanks :)

bobster65 04-12-2011 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjEddie (Post 2183464)
Hey..

Is there a way to make a Module tab be the default tab instead of a normal tab?

I want to create a display that will be welcoming in a module tab and I want that module tab to be the first tab that opens up when the member loads the forum page..

Is this possible?

Thanks :)

yes, click on Manage Tabs... in the Active Modules section (under the tabs), on the far right, click on Make this Default. Then that Module will be the default tab loaded.

bobster65 04-12-2011 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infopro (Post 2183408)
Your own forum blows up when clicking collapse.

Of course I have installed it to test it, why would someone bother to comment on something they had not tested and are interested in using?

Show me on your site where you have 5 forums linked to these tabs. You have only categories linked that I can see, not specific forums.

If removing the collapse is needed then it should be mentioned in the instructions. If it's not mentioned, one might assume they should still work.

The collapse has always been a bug in the vB4.0 version as I've never got around to fixing it. I have absolutely NO interest what so ever in vB4.x, so I won't be further developing this MOD. I have found someone willing to take it over tho, so maybe they will fix that bug.

As far as the Mod itself goes, it is designed to tab out CATEGORIES (not individual forums) & Content Modules. I created the Content Modules portion of the modification to handle things like BLOGs, CMS Content, Albums, Recent threads, Static & Dynamic Content etc... This includes creating your own Individual Forum Module (which is really just a recent threads module). If you don't know how to make your own php file to do this, you can always ask someone to make one for you. I couldn't tell you how many custom modules I've created for people that want specific dynamic content (Blogs, Project Tools, CMS, Albums etc... )

Anyway... again, it is not designed to tab out individual forums. Its built around FORUM HOME which displays CATEGORIES.

tech4c 04-12-2011 08:21 AM

Thanks

RichieBoy67 04-13-2011 04:55 AM

Has anyone come up with a fix for the collapsing category issue?

vgevolution 04-17-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santori (Post 2182954)
As i said; I solved the collapse buttol issue, but not with this mod.
I make the modifications by hand.

I love what you've done with your edits. Did you start off with this mod as a base and modify it, or did you do all changes by hand without any product importing?

I definitely want to implement this mod, but I wouldn't mind trying your edits to see which works better for me.

Rahstyles 04-18-2011 12:54 PM

Hey is this vbseo friendly yet?

RedDevil 05-04-2011 03:32 PM

Any news on further development of this yet?

Would be nice to be able to have the tabs at the top below navbar or above shoutboxes etc.

bobster65 05-04-2011 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red-Devil (Post 2191708)
Any news on further development of this yet?

Would be nice to be able to have the tabs at the top below navbar or above shoutboxes etc.

Nope, the person that was interested in taking over the vb4 version of this hasn't got back to me.

As far as relocating the tabs, that is something that can be done with a few edits.

ZeroHour 05-05-2011 10:11 AM

I am back, a few RL issues forced me to slow down my dev work and things in general but thats all solved now.
I have a few things planned but if you list off what features/options you would like I will look to integrating them too.

synseal 05-05-2011 10:24 AM

The only thing stopping me using this is that it is SEO unfriendly.

If this could be fixed that would be fantastic.

Thanks.

ZeroHour 05-05-2011 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synseal (Post 2192193)
The only thing stopping me using this is that it is SEO unfriendly.

If this could be fixed that would be fantastic.

Thanks.

Do you submit sitemaps? if so it then makes no difference to your SEO as your content is still *out there*
I have used this addon since we went vb4 and my site has grown and grown and I have seen no SEO hit.
Think about your forum home, other then the right column showing last post date/thread it has no real dynamic content that search engines would care about.
Sitemaps ensures you content is indexed properly not the forum home as such.
Remember as well that if we were to say dump the tabs content into the page as hidden div's the page would be slower to load which google cares about now.

ZeroHour 05-05-2011 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichieBoy67 (Post 2184087)
Has anyone come up with a fix for the collapsing category issue?

I am working on a fix right now, simply put the collapse code vbulletin has scans the page for certian tags and applies the collapse's and tags the onclick event to found links. Because the tabs are loaded after the page is loaded (aka dynamic) the script that does this tagging has already run and does not rerun.

For now I would remove the tab code for now. Remove the following from forumhpme_forumbit_level1_nopost THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN FIXED AND A FIXED VERSION WILL BE COMING SOON
Code:

<a class="collapse" id="collapse_c_cat{vb:raw forum.forumid}" href="{vb:raw relpath}#top"><img src="{vb:stylevar imgdir_button}/collapse_40b.png" alt="" title="{vb:rawphrase collapse_this_category}" /></a>
That will remove the button.

Regarding Santori's implementation, its not a tweaked version of this mod, his code loads the tab content along with the page as hidden div tags which means the vbulletin code can *tag* the collapse onclick to the divs. This also makes the pages a larger and I dont think the tabs live update themselves either unlike this mod. This is a lot like the vb3 version of a similar mod and not dynamic tab content.

Regarding vBSEO, I have vbSEO here and it all plays well.

Regarding SEO in general, like I said in the last post, if you are feeding google etc sitemaps there should be no real seo hit as your forum home page is not going to be affected in rankings tbh. In a way because the page size is smaller for forumhome you could actually benefit. Most of your google traffic will probably be *long tail* aka to specific threads rather then to your forumhome, having had a site using this for ages now its not had any negative effect I can see.

ZeroHour 05-05-2011 12:31 PM

I have fixed the collapse issue. I am just getting the fix ready for you all but it works now.
NOTE: the fix is on a test version of my site not the live build yet but I do have the collapse issue resolved it appears, just testing browsers right now.

Alfa1 05-05-2011 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobster65 (Post 2191760)
Nope, the person that was interested in taking over the vb4 version of this hasn't got back to me.

As far as relocating the tabs, that is something that can be done with a few edits.

I would love to see the jquery version.

billstelling 05-05-2011 01:59 PM

nice add-on! thanks for creating it..

RedDevil 05-05-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobster65 (Post 2191760)

As far as relocating the tabs, that is something that can be done with a few edits.


Are these available for use would be appreciated if they was :)

ZeroHour 05-05-2011 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Red-Devil (Post 2192306)
Are these available for use would be appreciated if they was :)

Can you tell me where they would like to be?
If you like PM me your site and I will see how to put them where you want.
I am working on automating all of this right now as much as possible.

RedDevil 05-05-2011 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroHour (Post 2192308)
Can you tell me where they would like to be?
If you like PM me your site and I will see how to put them where you want.
I am working on automating all of this right now as much as possible.


Pm sent thanks

ZeroHour 05-05-2011 10:20 PM

A question, how important would an auto template install be?
Do you guys find manual edits a problem?
The install should be very efficient when I get it going fully unlike a lot of mods auto install's which actually get ran on each page.
I have found a possible way but I am just trying to work out if there is any point.

preemz10314 05-05-2011 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroHour (Post 2192462)
A question, how important would an auto template install be?
Do you guys find manual edits a problem?
The install should be very efficient when I get it going fully unlike a lot of mods auto install's which actually get ran on each page.
I have found a possible way but I am just trying to work out if there is any point.

Yes please. I tried installing this one time on my forum a while ago, got caught up in a serious mess. An auto install would be delightful. honestly. there is a huge cry for that. I think auto-install could possibly boost this mod to one of the more used/popular mods around....

Thank you, and good luck.

Santori 05-05-2011 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroHour (Post 2192235)

Regarding Santori's implementation, its not a tweaked version of this mod, his code loads the tab content along with the page as hidden div tags which means the vbulletin code can *tag* the collapse onclick to the divs. This also makes the pages a larger and I dont think the tabs live update themselves either unlike this mod. This is a lot like the vb3 version of a similar mod and not dynamic tab content.


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Hello, Do you have reason, my forumhome is large. And it?s another mod. But I need to say it is dynamic , if you see my forum, it actuallize all posts and is compatible with translations. It?s like the vb3 solution, with the dynamic drive library.

This is a reason I do not use the mod in my forum, I have the vbet enterprise translation mod and it not works with TFH.

I see you are interested in make better this mod. I recommend you to find a solution to collapse button that not requires delete or block this button.
For me the real utility for tabs into a vbforum is to expand the forum. If you make a tab with a large list of forums without the collapse button is very tedious to navigate...

I find my own solution, it can not be the best, but for me at the moment is the only solution I see.

If you can make this , I will very happy really... I don?t lie.
At the moment I only see you implement a charging button...In my opinion I can?t see the utility for it.
Can you explain?
I think is better to minimize the speed of the tabs instead the other options.

Regards

http://www.aquaterraria.com/forum.php




Regards

ZeroHour 05-05-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by preemz10314 (Post 2192469)
Yes please. I tried installing this one time on my forum a while ago, got caught up in a serious mess. An auto install would be delightful. honestly. there is a huge cry for that. I think auto-install could possibly boost this mod to one of the more used/popular mods around....

Thank you, and good luck.

Well good news on that front, I am making good progress with auto install and the test code works, now I am building an admin interface for it to select the styles to enable.
For those running this mod, you will probably have to revert the templates and remove the edits before applying the style using the automated method.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santori (Post 2192494)
Hello, Do you have reason, my forumhome is large. And it?s another mod. But I need to say it is dynamic , if you see my forum, it actuallize all posts and is compatible with translations.

This is a reason I do not use the mod in my forum, I have the vbet enterprise translation mod and it not works with TFH.

Regards.

Hi Santori,
I didnt mean it quite as it sounded. This addon loads the tab's content from the server when you click a tab and if you were to re-click the tab the content would reload with any updates. Your site uses a similar approach to the vb3.8 mod like this where each tabs content is in the html of your forumhome but its hidden. When you click a tab the content is shown and the unselected tab content div is then hidden. If you reclick the same tab though the tabs content is not updated *dynamically* as such (aka fresh) it just shows the existing content. The mod your using is similar to how the collapse button works.
Because of this your page is larger then it would be if the hidden tab content was not loaded.

Regarding vbet, thats a dangerous mod for SEO to run and if you need translation primarily and not some hidden SEO benefit you can use various scripts which load if the users language is different using google translator.

bobster65 05-06-2011 04:10 AM

Just a heads up.. KK and I have handed over the vB4 version of TFH to ZeroHour for support, maintenance & further development for the vB4 track.

KK and I maintain ownership of the vB3 version.

Please PM ZeroHour for any vB4 TFH questions and support from this point forward. Thank you!

bobster65 05-06-2011 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfa1 (Post 2192252)
I would love to see the jquery version.

me too, however, I won't be doing any vB4 work. I've got a jquery version of the vB3 TFH and you probably already know what version of TFH I am working on right now :P

RedDevil 05-06-2011 09:25 AM

Cheers bobster65 its still a great mod to your credit :)

RedDevil 05-06-2011 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroHour (Post 2192462)
A question, how important would an auto template install be?
Do you guys find manual edits a problem?
The install should be very efficient when I get it going fully unlike a lot of mods auto install's which actually get ran on each page.
I have found a possible way but I am just trying to work out if there is any point.


It all depends on your skill lever Zerohour, myself its not now a problem following instructions, but i recall when i first started was a nightmare being unknowledgable about the coding, im still only a novice myself but i manage.


Auto template is preferred but you have to go with whats better for yourself, we will be happy with that.


Also a feature request if possibe:

Place tabs in different areas, ie like requested in pm

preemz10314 05-06-2011 10:33 AM

also if you add the auto-install please include what files we should back up before installing incase we need to revert. I'll wait for this. As a forum grows this is a good mod to clean it up. I have plans for this when completed.. and also, if possible, let us know how to customize the tab colors.. thanks. -waiting.

RedDevil 05-06-2011 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by preemz10314 (Post 2192634)
also if you add the auto-install please include what files we should back up before installing incase we need to revert. I'll wait for this. As a forum grows this is a good mod to clean it up. I have plans for this when completed.. and also, if possible, let us know how to customize the tab colors.. thanks. -waiting.

Tab colors are simple to change in CSS if i recall, im sure its been mentioned in an earlier post

ZeroHour 05-06-2011 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by preemz10314 (Post 2192634)
also if you add the auto-install please include what files we should back up before installing incase we need to revert. I'll wait for this. As a forum grows this is a good mod to clean it up. I have plans for this when completed.. and also, if possible, let us know how to customize the tab colors.. thanks. -waiting.

Hi
The install will work like this, you install the mod, go to the Mods Styles section and enable the styleid's you want to use the tabbed forum home, the system will then compile the changes. If you choose to disable the styleid's tabbed mode it will automatically remove the changes :)
Without choosing which to enable NOTHING is changed.
As for tab colours etc I will be adding options for that soon too, the initial release though probably wont have those changes integrated yet as I want to get the auto installer out there first.

Santori 05-06-2011 05:50 PM

Quote:


Hi Santori,
I didnt mean it quite as it sounded. This addon loads the tab's content from the server when you click a tab and if you were to re-click the tab the content would reload with any updates. Your site uses a similar approach to the vb3.8 mod like this where each tabs content is in the html of your forumhome but its hidden. When you click a tab the content is shown and the unselected tab content div is then hidden. If you reclick the same tab though the tabs content is not updated *dynamically* as such (aka fresh) it just shows the existing content. The mod your using is similar to how the collapse button works.
Because of this your page is larger then it would be if the hidden tab content was not loaded.

Regarding vbet, thats a dangerous mod for SEO to run and if you need translation primarily and not some hidden SEO benefit you can use various scripts which load if the users language is different using google translator.


Mpfff, Sorry, but every tab have a own variable forumbits, It?s the same working for vbulletin 4. The same. But I don?t know why is the problem with the larger of the page if is faster of TFH.
Sorry, I dont?t see results or purpose to all. This is mod( tfh) is good , but some users have the same problems: The time to charging and the famous button.
Now I find a solution and you say somethings about the programation etc... but works my friend. As i say, you are efforting in the wrong way. :confused:
I don?t have anything to say about this .

Regards.

preemz10314 05-06-2011 10:22 PM

nice..........cant wait to see how this turns out.

Alfa1 05-07-2011 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobster65 (Post 2192568)
me too, however, I won't be doing any vB4 work. I've got a jquery version of the vB3 TFH and you probably already know what version of TFH I am working on right now :P

Thats good to read. My main site is on vb3 anyway.

Avrojet 05-15-2011 09:16 PM

Good to hear this is still being developed.

Any chance of making it so that it remembers which tab you were on? So when you click the back button on your browser it will go back to that tab instead of the default tab.

ZeroHour 05-16-2011 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avrojet (Post 2196118)
Good to hear this is still being developed.

Any chance of making it so that it remembers which tab you were on? So when you click the back button on your browser it will go back to that tab instead of the default tab.

Yes I am very keen to get that integrated, I have read some code that should allow it to work but I do plan to have the feature.

karlm 05-16-2011 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by karlm (Post 2110490)
Quote:

Originally Posted by karlm (Post 2049039)
Quote:

Originally Posted by karlm (Post 2029847)
Due to some d/b issues I was encountering, I uninstalled all my plugins - including this one. However, now that my d/b issues are resolved, I went to reinstall this. Upon trying to install, it claims the tables already exist as if it hadn't been uninstalled.

What can i do to get this installed again, please?

Bobster, any chance you could look into helping with this when you get a moment, please? I've been using this hack for a long time - but am currently unable to use it due to the above errors (tables already exist).

Just bumping my own support request...

Re-bumping as is now under 'new management'...

synseal 05-18-2011 08:40 PM

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I went ahead and used this after your post earlier regarding SEO and sitemaps Zerohour, thanks for that, now I have this set up and working fine I have one issue.

Is there a way of making this area (white) transparent, it looks fine on my light style's but terrible on my dark styles.

Do I need to edit the skin-tfh.css? and in what way.

Thanks for any help.


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