Can't wait, myself. :) I sympathisze with their technical troubles, and hope that they are learning a few things that will help with the appropriate upgrade scripts and documentation.

I was waiting over an hour to write it on vb.com:

I am seriously thinking not upgrading and keeping the vbulletin 3.8.4 ... if the new vbulletin 4.0.0 don't impress me ... i would not renew my license...

I expect they'll be doing major performance tuning throughout the betas, so I'm not too alarmed about them having to increase memory at this early point.

In the end, I'm hoping and expecting that 4.0 will be more efficient than 3.x.

I assume that was the whole point of a major rewrite vs. just releasing new skin and features as 3.9 without the need to redo all mods, etc.

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When I saw the forum still down this morning, I had similar thoughts. But wait and see how it goes. It's early for 4.0 and I'm glad they're working through the bugs and giving it a real-world spin. The bumps in the road now may be a good thing long-term.

Will we still be able to get older vB versions when we pay for the license? Or only vB4.0?

So vB4 is a memory hog? I thought they were making it more efficient?

its open now...

My thoughts exactly.

I think they are working really hard to meet us half way with our demands to see v4 before the pre-sale ends, I for one really appreciate their efforts.

Sure there are, it just depends what you need and how much you're willing to customise.

The free ones aren't as well featured as vB, true, but then vB has a lot of features that a lot of users simply don't need.

I'm willing to bet that if everyone who owned a license looked at what features they need/will ever use, a fair few would realise a free alternative has just the stuff they need.
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From what I saw of vb4 when it was up, the design isn't any better or worse than the default vb3 design, not keen on the tiny menus though. And I looked in on edit options which is a horrible horrible page.

Coupled with the "buy it now, but you can't see it yet" they aren't coming out of this looking professional. But we are still in beta so maybe they'll produce some magic in the coming weeks.

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That is what they are doing, but they played silly buggers with this pricing "strategy". They shoulda waited until they had something to show at least.