Let me correct this one.

I don't think Jelsoft would ever use code from a hack here to add new functionality to the standard vBulletin software. They might implement the same idea that was also the basis of a modification on this site, but that will often be triggered by customer requests (and often those same requests are what in the end lead to a released modification).

If you have any proof of what you are acusing Jolsoft of, then please provide it, together with a statement from the origianl author of that block of code that he never gave permission to Jelsoft to use his code.

There might be a few cases in the past where Jelsoft have used code made by others, but i know that those authors have been contacted and credited (you can still find some on the credits page in ACP). This even happened in the few cases where Jelsoft used a bigger and original idea of an author.

If you want to be part of a coding community you should change language or find a new forum? That's absolute nonsense.

That is not what I said. Your missquote is absolute nonsense.

To use an example Livewire's vBSigHosting hack. He did not get contacted.

Look at the code, they did not take his hack and just place it in the files. The developers coded it in their own way, because it has been requested for ages.

<a href="http://www.vbhackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3548&page=3" target="_blank">http://www.vbhackers.com/forum/showt...?t=3548&page=3</a>

Way off topic IMO.

And your opinion is welcomed.

Yes, but that doesn't mean everyone.

How is this off topic? We're are talking about how the old ways are gone and the new ones are here now, this is vaild imho!

Jelsoft is not taking your code and putting it in their software, they are adding things to their product that their customers request. If you see an add-on with over 2000 installs it would be crazy not to say "Hey a lot of people are using it, and we're getting threads about it on vBulletin.com all the time. I think it would be a good idea to add that as it's something our customers would really enjoy".

They then go code it themselves from the ground up, often improving and taking it to the next level. Everyone is happy because that is one less thing they have to add, and we all move on.

Way back in my day it was an honor to have your hack become part of the software. We did not care it we got credit, just knowing our idea was good enough to make it in the software was enough. Heck we did not care if someone released a hack that functions just like ours, as long as they took the time to code it themselves. Hell we would even team up and try to improve and learn from each other, or maybe release it as a joint project.

What happened to taking pride in your work just because it was something you coded yourself?

They don't ask you, and they don't pay you. This place is used as there free research center. WHICH IS WRONG