The main differences with The Poll... Provide a list of paid vB add-ons at vB.org?

1) It was only a Poll about providing a listing of free and paid add-ons.
2) It was conducted by a customer - not a coder, (I don't even do installs and upgrades - but I own and manage everything else)
In the couple hours it was up, before being abruptly squelched, the Poll indicated 75% in favor of a listing of free and paid add-ons.
3) I was able to vote yes.

Re: Listing ...
If vB won't do it, could a non-biased member make up a list and post it?
It seems acceptable to post questions for vB add-on products, so why can't someone here formulate a list of paid add-ons in a thread?
There could be a submission contact addy, The thread could be closed / a sticky / edited with new submissions - no reviews or commentary.

That's all that's needed. I can find reviews and opinions elsewhere.

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About this paid add-ons section Poll ...

I'm stuck in Undecided slot here and now I would like to vote my final decision.

A Forum Poll that is ongoing, with ongoing dialogue that can have influence on voting decision should allow for changing vote.

I would like to vote NO on this one.

A directory list would suffice.
If vB.com wants to turn Vb.org into into a commercial self supporting add-on to it's product, then the whole atmosphere of this site and community attitude will change.

just an opinion ... take it for what it's worth

~ Mark

Isn't this an issue now anyways? If you find security issues do you leave the hack up? If a coder and/or user is being belligerent in a thread do you not speak up as moderators to calm it down?

If you have a problem with a coder, take down his hack. If you have a problem with a user, take away their posting rights. Maybe you can implement some sort of system to hold $$ for X amount of days to ensure a user doesn't have a security or support issue (of course clarify what is and isn't reasonable support/security issues).
that's an odd statement coming from a coder who should know there lots of ways to 'skin a cat'.

did someone say cat??

http://www.edville.com/temp/Thread-Crap-WakeMeUp.jpg

sorry, couldnt resist trying to cheer things up :)

No because there would be no chance to test a hack before you pay for it. I think a donate button possibly in a HTML install instructions file is enough. Personally, I always donate something where a donate button is available and I use the hack and find it useful.

so youre the one ;)

We already have a system for free hacks - Bringing commercial hacks in would complicate the relationship between staff and commercial coders...

Chris

you're right, so it shouldn't be so hard to add commercial hacks.what is your relationship with them right now? how would it change? and why would that change be bad? Instead of thinking of reasons/excuses you don't like the proposal try thinking of reasons to resolve them. The one's you posted are already issues you have with free hacks. Why don't you just stop hosting free hacks as well and only have a link directory?

I think it'd be worse to link your users to another site where you have no control of support, payments, content, copy hacks, quality, etc. You'll also begin to split up the market in which vbulletin.org is pretty much the only legitimate player. Some other concerns I have are that if a user has a problem and the coder won't help them then they're left out to dry. Are you going to get involved then and try to moderate on other sites to see if what the user is saying is true? Are you going to remove those links from the link directory? how will you know if there's a problem if the site admin has deleted all traces of it?

How I see it, hosting them here solves a lot of problems but it just creates a lot more work.

Hosting them here would cause a lot more problems than it would solve.

That's why it is the foundation of this suggestion NOT to host them here, but just provide a directory for them.
I know this poll is unclear about this fact, but since the new, improved poll was destroyed...

Do that, and I think Invision will be the better option... I know I honestly would probaly jump ship and go there.

There are TOO MANY hacks that are coded terribly, and there are too many variables to deal with.

Like support... What if the coder stops supporting it etc..