Following on from what shiva has said .. as a test I went to edit one of my links so I could add my mods forum, which can only be seen by mods and admin, as the links parent forum. It doesn't show up in the list of forums to which I can parent my link to .. so if this is a bug, I can confirm.

Expected behaviour would be to be able to pick the mod forum and then the link to act in the same way as the forum, ie only mods and admin to see and be able to click the link.

I've just tried this and it seems to work the way I expected:

a) Normally, when you set forum-based permissions for a category or a link, it is only visible to/accessible by users in groups that have both *Can View Forum* and *Can View Others Threads* permission. Otherwise the category/link is invisible and inaccessible.

b) When you edit a category to set forum-based permissions to it, the permissions also become the default permissions for new links added in the category. (If you want them to cascade them also to the existing links within the category, then there's a check box to do so).

c) If you have given LDM's can_see_protected_links_on_portal permission to any usergroups, these groups can *see* protected links and catgeories, but can't actually access the links.

If one of your forums doesn't show up in the list of forums on the add/edit category/link page, this may be a bug. It seems to work ok for me. Again, LDM presents a list of forums for which the current user has both Can_view_forum and Can_view_others_threads permissions. Does this apply in your case?

I have both "Can View Forum" and "Can View Others' Threads" as yes for admin (ie me) within Forum permissions, but can't see the forum in the list on the add/edit link/cat pages ..

It looks like the forum setting "Show this Forum and Child Forums on the Forum Jump Menu" makes the difference ..

If you have this set as no, the forum in question wont show in the parent forum list no matter the permissions ..

(Which works on forums that are just links too .. so please leave it as it is :))

That figures - I'm using standard VB routines to build the forum menu.

Is this a big issue?

Concerning forums that are themselves links (in the VB sense), again, if the main VB code thinks these are forums, then they appear on the list.

The alternative is that I shall have to write another forum menu builder, with all the complications of handling users in multiple user groups, etc.

I reset my forum permissions as Slave did, and my admin forum shows up as well.

I think you have enough on your plate as it is, especially for such a minor bug. If worse comes to worse, I can always just delete the admin cat, and change one setting in my forum admin permissions to restore it back, and use another method

Nah .. I'd leave it as is .. it's handy being able to leave linked forums off the list and that's the perfect way of dealing with it ..

All I'd do is add this behaviour somewhere in the manual so people know about it. I've got to admit I set this as no for my mod forum thinking non admin/mods would see the forum in the list, but it seems they don't anyway .. so I guess there might be others who have done the same. As long as the manual has this info it should be fine :)

Hi Andrew, which part should I change to have the login error prompt for vbulletin start msg?? right now I see something such as this ..

"Unfortunately, you do not have sufficient permission to access this entry, as it is reserved for another usergroup. Please contact us for more information if necessary"

how do I fix it to use the vbulletin msg instead? thank u

Go to VB/admincp/languages and phrases and do a search for the ll_access_error_loggedin phrase - you can modify this how you like.

I'm a bit stuck with this - I can't get it to go wrong on my site or on yours. If I allow unlimited size uploads, the picture upload works correctly, and if I set a lower limit and try to upload an image that is bigger than the limit, it gives me the correct error message. I tried the same thing on your site, and it also gave me the correct error message.

So I must be missing something.