Correct, as a forum owner. But I think hes pointing out there is no longer a "Free" version of the app on the Apple Store anymore.
So it'll cost your users to purchase the app unless they use a blackberry.

I updated tapatalk on General-Forums and I can now moderate, thanks!

any possibility of shoutbox integration?

That is true. But, our is to provide users with ability to use our forums in more ways than just one. If they want to buy it, they'll spend $3 and buy it. If not, we don't loose anything...

Agreed entirely.
$3 is not much for anyone, seriously.....and on top of that it'll work for ANY forum that has tapatalk installed.

But was just pointing out that the free iphone app is no longer available as that other user mentioned.

Personally, I <3 Tapatalk and I think its well worth it.

Yes, it would be nice that they still offer free versions with some limitations for all mobile platforms. :(

Is not reading BBCode on my forum (at least with the Android app), even with the BBcode setting on. Is this something I'm missing server-side or is it the app?

Either or. Just grab the newest version from their site. I usually just overwrite it myself.

Right on Tekno.. just replace the entire folder is fine. :D

just installed.

I don't have a phone to verify so can someone check www.invertplanet.com/forum/ ?

Thanks in advance :)

Hi all,

I've followed the instructions to the letter on installing this mod and no joy.

When I go to verify the installation status I get "Not Installed: Server Error(1)"

All files are chmod 755

I've disabled vBseo in case this was the issue.

Any ideas?

For files, it only needs to be 644, 755 is for directories. If you copied files and added JS in headinclude, that should be it. After that, everything should work ok. But, usually there could be problem with FTPing files to the server. Try upload all files again. And put them in forum's root. Also verify where is JS, does it point where you put files in?

Hi just installed per request of our users and it works great! :up:

One question....How do we add the advertising/banner on it?

Yep, did everything like you said. Still nothing :(

Guess I'll contact their support unless there is another equivalent plugin for vB 4.x

I think people should be aware that the WinPhone 7 variant of this mod (Board Express) is essentially unsupported it would seem.
The support forum in the Board Express website is essentially dead a dodo.

I can't seem t publish it. Is there a waiting period?

got it!

Thanks!

This app is completely useless - a joke. The whole purpose behind having a "mobile friendly" site is to display your site differently to visitors on mobile browsers.

Where people are getting confused is that none of your initial visitors are actually going to see your mobile friendly site - they're going to see your non-mobile site that doesn't fit well on their browser. Then, they'll be prompted to pay for this guy's app. If you get hundreds or thousands of hits to your site via mobile browsers per day, do you really think they're all going to pay to see your site before they even know what your mobile version looks like - let alone be ready to justify paying to look at a site they're brand new to?

All that happened is they built up a big userbase offering the app for free and then decided to capitalize off that, while ruining the whole point of it in the process. I can understand forum owners paying a license fee to offer an app, but not charging every user to download it.

Uninstalling and rating 1 star.

Useless!

Dear Angry Elf,

First, you don't have to pay for the app to read the forum.

And if you want to show a mobile skin to your mobile devices, thats YOUR job to do it - not this mod. There are plenty of mobile skins and mobile device detection scripts all over the place. Find one, admin.

And finally, paying for the app allows you to post to thousands of forums. I've had plenty of users come BACK when they found we had tapatalk on the forum.

Stop being so angry. Thanks.

I'm not an Elf, you dirty fly! (lol)

I never said or implied you did. What's implied is that if you're downloading this mod you want your visitors to be able to view your site in a mobile version. Why would you want every one of your visitors to pay for the ability to do this? And if this mod isn't about that, what's it about?

"Tapatalk is a vBulletin mod that allows your users to browse your forum using a native mobile application. "
"Only one MOD installation to support all mobile devices including iPhone, Android, WebOS, Windows Phone 7, BlackBerry and Nokia."

Doesn't that contradict what I just quoted them saying? Lol, why do you think people download this mod? You just proved my point exactly. You download and install this mod, users are prompted to pay to download an app, then they can see a mobile friendly version of your site. So thank you for elaborating and the obvious point I was making - don't use this app - go find a free mobile skin/device detection.


And finally, my point: people should, can and do post on my site using their mobile device without having to pay to do so :) Plenty of users, eh? Right. I'm sure the hundreds of people who hit my site via mobile devices will flock back to become a regular just because there's an app they can pay for. Right!

Stop being so naive, Thanks!

I really don't think you understand this mod, or we're not communicating properly. As far as I know, no one has to pay anything to view your forum in the Tapatalk mobile app. If you want a mobile theme to show when your mobile users visit the site using a web browser, dartho has put together an awesome one. I suggest you check it out.

No one has to pay to see your forum in the Tapatalk app! You only have to pay if you want to post via the app. And really, these Tapatalk guys are developing an app over 7 different mobile platforms. That's pretty impressive. I don't think anyone can argue that they don't deserve to be paid for their work.

And of course your users are also free to post to your site without paying. There are literally TONS of ways to do so. This mod, and its associated app, are only another way for your mobile users to consume what you provide.

I run Tapatalk and also have a mobile theme available. I don't care how my users consume my site, I just want to make it as easy for them as possible. You should try it. You might be surprised on how many of your mobile users already own the Tapatalk app for their platform. I bought it to use on my forum, and now use it on several others...

Now go have a nice weekend or something. Sheesh!

Hi,

It looks like it asks for users to buy an app for $1.99 ?

@Fly,

I understand what the app is completely. I cited exactly how they described it as well as my own description. I understand completely that they don't have to pay for the app to see my site. What I'm telling you that you're not understanding is that unless you have a mobile theme for your site, users are not going to see your mobile site until they buy the Tapatalk app. Is this that hard to understand? It's completely obvious that people are installing this mod thinking they're making their site mobile friendly when in actuality it's only going to be mobile friendly once a user pays for the app. What if your site isn't displayed correctly on mobile browsers? Who would pay to find out whether or not they are even interested in your site? Do you see what I'm getting at here? And before you tell me it's not their job to do this and it's my job to find a mobile style, please re-read the upper half of this paragraph again before you make yourself sound stupid. (And in case you don't know what this means, it means a mobile style renders this useless app... useless)

The way they describe this mod is suspiciously vague in relation to what it actually does. I'm glad to know that you have a mobile theme for your site in addition to Tapatalk. It renders the app useless to non Taptalk users as they can see your site's mobile version already and apparently do all of the same things that the Taptalk app can do - unless I'm missing something here.

Thanks to Overlord (SC2 Fan?) for proving my point further:

And you wonder how many people that install this mod actually know that. I wonder why Taptalk hasn't updated this stating it's not free anymore. Hmmmm:erm:

Put two and two together buddy.

Good Lord, why is every one getting their panties in such a twist? If someone wants to install this app, please let them without berating them. I *don't* have a mobile style on my forum and tapatalk works just fine. I *LIKE* the tapatalk app for my forum, as do the members that use it. Those that want it pay for it, those that don't get to use their phone's web browser. The mod is free so why are people complaining? They could work it the other way around and seel the mod for big bucks.

What's the big deal? Oh, I know what it is. It's the fact that reading comprehension is so close to nil these days that folks don't understand *what* they read in previous posts....

Reading comprehension is obviously close to nil as I was never berating anyone for installing this mod. Why don't you read what I had said and see that "Fly" was the one who called me out for having an opinion.

This mod is unbelievably vague in what it actually does and the statement that it's free is false. It's not free and it does not make your site supported for mobile devices. Oh wait, it does, but only when people pay for it.

I'm glad to know that you require your visitors to pay to see/use your site like a mobile device should.

The obvious alternative is to make your site mobile friendly for every single visitor, for free. Is this really that hard to understand? There is no obvious advantage for anyone to install this app other than you're listed in their directory. Install your own mobile styling and this app is completely useless to anyone who visits your site. Who would buy Tapatalk if your site is already built for their device?

I have a good friend who develops apps. I rather pay him $ to make me a free app for my customers instead of making people pay. I have far too many users to expect them to pay for this let alone do I think it's okay that TapaTalk make that much money off of them. It's too greedy IMO. Let the forum owners pay a license fee, not the customers. DUH.

Wrong.

Also wrong.

The app costs $1.99 for your users. It only makes your site mobile friendly once someone pays for it. Don't act so condescending, it's pretty pathetic.


Oh really? That's funny. When I visit my site on an iPhone it prompts me to pay for and download an app. It displays my site in a non-mobile version. Hm..... Hm.....

lol, seriously, grow up.

There are two versions of the app. The FREE one that allows one to read your forum (and thousands of others). There is also a PAID version of the app, that allows you to post to your forum (and thousands of others).

If you don't like that prompt, remove it. It doesn't HAVE to be there. That's why you're an admin.

What does this mean to you?

"Tapatalk is a vBulletin mod that allows your users to browse your forum using a native mobile application."

That doesn't mean it will magically change the web browsing experience for your mobile users. It will change their experience when you use the free or paid version of their native mobile application.

Thanks for keeping this up. This is fun. :D

Sorry, there is no free version. There's no free version in the app store, and there's no free version listed on their site. Show me the free version if it exists, because as of now there isn't one available on their site, the app store, or when my users visit the site. Back up your argument with proof, please.


Oh really? How do I do that? Where exactly would I go about removing the prompt? No where in the Tapatalk panel can I remove it. There's not even a settings section in vBulletin? Do you expect me to go digging into the code? What about their license agreement? "Modifications to the Software are prohibited.". Please, enlighten me with your knowledge of how to do this. I'd love to know.


There is no free version of the app. And my point exactly - their experience is changed after a user pays for an app. You can provide your users with the exact same functionality that Tapatalk does for free without them having to download an app, let alone pay for anything. So, what does that mean to me? Well, what does this mean to you?

"Step 6

Download the free Tapatalk iPhone app from the app store
(http://itunes.com/app/tapatalkro) to confirm it is indeed working."

"Your request could not be completed.
The item you've requested is not currently available in the US store". HM... What does that mean to you? Maybe you installed this mod when it was free for your users.

Straight from the Tapatalk website:
That's the ONLY example they give. "upload from their phone". Ugh, are they blind to the fact that anyone can still upload a photo? They don't need to download an app to do that. They have no feature list. Why wouldn't they have a feature list?

In a nutshell, all this app does is provide a mobile style on the back end that's consistent through out each forum they visit. It doesn't offer any functionality unless your website doesn't have a mobile style. Any smart site owner would have a mobile style for their mobile users. And if you have a mobile style, you don't need this app. You can do everything this app does without having your users pay for it. It's greedy. Shady at best. That's like FireFox or Chrome charging to use their browser, and only websites that have the FireFox or Chrome mod can be accessed. People are caught up on the idea that an "app" is some how magically superior when it's doing the exact same thing that a mobile style would.

This is fun :) Try not to use any common sense or logical reasoning when responding - it might hurt your brain!

This app allows users to turn off the mobile ads ... Can't pay the bills like that, sorry.

I enjoy it each time someone comes in here and says they are removing or not installing tapatalk... it means more mobile users that will instead visit my forum. :)

Leave out Step 3, as listed in the original post. That step adds the popup. yellowpeter has commented in this thread that that is acceptable.

I'll be damned. Yep. Back when I installed this, there was a free version that allowed reading. Interesting. You win!

Sucks that this debate is over. It was fun while it lasted. Have you installed dartho's mobile skin yet? Maybe we can find something to argue about in that thread...

^^^

It's been nothing but positive for me. Even tho I have a mobile theme installed, most people seem to appreciate the usability of this app.

Actually while I agree Tapatalk is overall a positive experience (I have this and forum runner installed and people tend to prefer tapatalk 5 to 1) they have made some decisions I don't agree with but their loyalty is to the consumer buying the app, not the forum admin since we don't pay anything (for the non-branded app)

While as an admin you can set up advertising, in the tapatalk client settings users can still turn it off. So if any of your users look at the settings they probably turned it off.

Next, they did discontinue the free app- you have to buy the app to use it all all- no more free read-only access.

That's actually OK with me- I want tapatalk users to contribute by posting- giving people free read-only access is counter-intuitive to growing a forum IMO.

So yes Tapatalk isn't perfect, but it's better than a mobile style IMO- much better.

vBulletin has an "Official Mobile Style" built in now

http://youtu.be/D45CHqjxQzU

There is 0 difference in functionality between a mobile style like this and Tapatalk. Call Tapatalk an app, sure, all it is is a browser unique to forums who have it installed. The difference being a mobile skin is displayed to every single visitor who visits, for free, without having to pay or download anything.

Ah, here we go!

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/conte...bile-Suite-FAQ

This is exactly what I've been preaching the ENTIRE time. The vBulletin people are not stupid, thank God. Anyone who gets a decent amount of mobile traffic would be nuts to think that offering a paid app is good business. It's completely the opposite. The only time it would be good business is if YOU were the one capitalizing from app sales - not some cheesy app company.

This blows Tapatalk completely out of the water. Ah, such a nice thing to discover. Now I don't have to pay an app developer! W00t!

We have installed Tapatalk and are pretty happy with it (along with the existing vB4 native mobile theme... it's all about options). However, unlike the native mobile theme, Tapatalk does not seem to respect the user choice made with the "Exclude Forums from What's New" mod. Which is to say, if I've selected one or more forums to exclude from a "What's New" search, they are excluded in the native mobile theme but they are NOT excluded in Tapatalk. This is a pretty big sticking point for us. Any ideas?

Note that this is in reference to arbitrary user-selected forums to exclude. It is not in reference to administrator-selected forums to always exclude from Tapatalk.

I have used TTalk for a while on our site

Is the VB native customisable as in logo or is it simply a "theme" as mobile theme etc because if so i have tried both and like TTalk

Im curious as to the comparissons and peoples user experiences