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sketch42 06-08-2004 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eoc_Jason
Okay, last night I couldn't sleep so I pondered on the part of making verified deals, and conceptually here's what I have come up with:

1. In your forum's FS/WTB section, whenever a user makes a new thread, the first post has an additional buton somewhere. Not sure of the name yet, maybe "Deal" or "Buy/Sell" or whatever...

2. Anyhow, people can reply to the thread as usual, however when someone agrees to purchase/sell said item, they click on the button in the first post. This does two things. First - it closes the thread and prepends the thread title with "SOLD -". Second - It creates a relationship between the user who clicked the button, and the person who posted the thread.

(Maybe have an intermediary page that confirms that they do indend to purchase/sell said item and must check a box before confirming.)

3. It will send a PM to both people, just as notification of the transaction. Also in each member's trader ratings page it will have a "pending transactions" link.

4. Under the pending transactions page it lists people who they have done the steps above. If neither person has rated each other, there will be a "cancel" button, however both parties much cancel for it to actually take place, then the original thread will automatically be reopend and title changed back. If one person rates the other, then neither can cancel the deal. They will also have a preset amount of time to rate the other person before the opportunity is lost.

5. The old rating still will still be in place, however they will be considered "unverified" deals. With the steps mentioned above, they will be considered "verified" deals, since there is a link back, they clicked the link with the knowledge of engaging in the transaction, etc...



Overall this shouldn't be too difficult to implement, and I think will enhance this hack a lot. Please give your feedback & suggestions as it's easier to make changes before I start writing/changing any code... ;)
the only problem i have with this is the fact that the thread is getting closed based on this unknown buyer.. forcing the seller into a transaction with a possible scammer... if anything when the buyer clicks the button it should send a pm to the seller (thread starter) and when he returns to the thread he see a butoon to confirm the transaction therupon closing the thread or deleting the transaction... just like you can on ebay with suspicious bidders... you .. as the seller choose to cancel this persons bid or not...

other than that... great idea

eoc_Jason 06-08-2004 08:55 PM
Hmm, that's a good idea, I like where the thread starter has to come back and verify the person's intent to purchase.... ;)

drumsy 06-09-2004 12:40 AM
What about instances where a thread has multiple items for sale? This can get quite crazy for our members to be making multiple threads for a garage full of items they are wanting to sell.

Ted S 06-09-2004 01:01 AM
Amazing hack... live and running on www.scubaboard.com (when I have soem free time I'll be sure to give you some feedback on the verrified idea as I've built similar systems in the past).

eoc_Jason 06-09-2004 01:29 AM
Well at my forum the FS section is divided up into subsections, so each post is pretty much one item (or combo) for sale. It has worked well this way thus far... and thread titles have become much more descriptive (instead of "just a lot of stuff I'm sellin")...

When the classified/auction system is written, you can only list one item (or multiplies of the same items) anyhow... (like ebay)...

Quote:
Originally Posted by drumsy
What about instances where a thread has multiple items for sale? This can get quite crazy for our members to be making multiple threads for a garage full of items they are wanting to sell.

Yahhoon23 06-09-2004 03:02 AM
Yeah, that is how we do it on ours as well.

We limit people to selling a certain amount of items in regular sections so each member can only make a thread for one item, and another thread for another item. We limit our members to an x amt of items to sell per month then have another forum called Dealer Section for people that want to sell a vast quantity of items and have to pay the site a certain monthly or yearly fee to be able to sell in the Dealer Section (We give them their own subforum).

BamaStangGuy 06-09-2004 03:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eoc_Jason
Well at my forum the FS section is divided up into subsections, so each post is pretty much one item (or combo) for sale. It has worked well this way thus far... and thread titles have become much more descriptive (instead of "just a lot of stuff I'm sellin")...

When the classified/auction system is written, you can only list one item (or multiplies of the same items) anyhow... (like ebay)...
A auction system for Vb would be awsome!

CADguru 06-09-2004 08:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eoc_Jason
You would have to show me how the old one is maintained, I might be able to give you some tips to port it over.
To be honest we just have a list of verified transactions by members with a "rating" next to their name. Currently all succesful sales are repoirted to one moderator who tirelessly updates the ratings thread :surprised:

Therefore we have a list of user names with nuimeric number ratings and just need to add these to the Trader Rating rather than start them at (0)

Many thanks
Mike

eoc_Jason 06-09-2004 04:13 PM
CADguru - well the actual trader rating is based on unique userids... so even if you created dummy rankings, it would be most appropriate to set them to a uid of 0 (so no name is displayed as the buyer/seller)... In theory you could modify the SQL code so that userid 0 would not be distinct, but the rest would be...

Everyone Else - So do you think it would be more worthwhile to just start working on a classifieds / auction hack (with the trader ratings system of course) rather than just try to bodge together this "buy/sell" button concept thing? I think there could be potentially 3 listing types, 1. classfieds (listings with no time limit till the user removes it), 2. auctions & 3. buy it now (time-limited listings)....

I think it would still be worthwhile to continue developing this hack, adding things like the rebuttal / followup comments, and a stats page...

Please let me know what you guys think...

sketch42 06-09-2004 05:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eoc_Jason
CADguru - well the actual trader rating is based on unique userids... so even if you created dummy rankings, it would be most appropriate to set them to a uid of 0 (so no name is displayed as the buyer/seller)... In theory you could modify the SQL code so that userid 0 would not be distinct, but the rest would be...

Everyone Else - So do you think it would be more worthwhile to just start working on a classifieds / auction hack (with the trader ratings system of course) rather than just try to bodge together this "buy/sell" button concept thing? I think there could be potentially 3 listing types, 1. classfieds (listings with no time limit till the user removes it), 2. auctions & 3. buy it now (time-limited listings)....

I think it would still be worthwhile to continue developing this hack, adding things like the rebuttal / followup comments, and a stats page...

Please let me know what you guys think...
i dont believe everyone needs an auction/classified system i wouldlike to see further developement of theis hack as far as the connection between the buyer/seller and rebuttal


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