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Cyricx 05-11-2009 12:15 PM

It uses the mailqueue system if you have it enabled in your vbulletin options -> email options.

Keep in mind, it can create significant stalls in emails being sent out if you enable that too well. If you set it for 5 messages at a time, and 100 people are subscribed to a forum then it can take a LONG time to get all of those messages out if your forum doesn't have alot of foot traffic.

zhangyc 05-11-2009 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyricx (Post 1806897)
There is a script included that you'll find linked in your admincp that tries some of the typical combinations and tries to help you determine the settings.

Hi, Cyricx.
Where could I find this script? I tried to find in my admincp, but did not get any result. Please show me the path, thanks.

SamirDarji 05-19-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BustaCap (Post 1594461)
I am trying to "mirror" a mailing list that I belong to...

This is what I want to do as well. It's a PITA to check hundreds of emails from all these groups to see what they are doing. It would be so much easier to see them right inside my forum. Plus, then my site staff can see them as well.

From best I've gathered, this plugin works by comparing the sender's email with a user on the forum. If the user matches, it posts. If it doesn't, it doesn't post. So one way to get a yahoo group or google group mirroring is to create a user account for each of the users on the group, right? This way, the plugin will find the appropriate user and post under their name. Is this assumption correct?

My thoughts on how to get a email list posting is to forward the originally received email, which has the original sender's email addresss (not a forum user by default), to an account which is a valid forum user, a "bot" for all practical means, which then forwards it to the forum email. Because the "bot" is a valid user on the forum, the plugin will check the originating email and find it to be a valid user, but the content of the email will actually be from the email list. Does this make sense? Would this work?

Cyricx 05-19-2009 05:32 PM

Most mailing lists send the email as coming from the individual user. so all of those users would have to be added.

This plugin is not built or made to be able to mirror a list.

It's made with the sole intention of replacing one. :)

SamirDarji 05-19-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyricx (Post 1813603)
This plugin is not built or made to be able to mirror a list.

It's made with the sole intention of replacing one. :)

I really wish I could get these groups to get off of these cheesy free hosts, but I can't. :( I've even offered them their own sub-forums and forums, but still nothing.

So until I figure out a solution to consolidate each of these groups' postings into a place, I have to wade through all the emails on the lists via email versus searching forums. :(

Do you believe my system of forwarding would accomplish what I wish to do? This will require a lot of forwarding and auto-responders to be set up and tested, but does it at least look good in theory?

And after thinking about the plugin, I'm planning to also run it as-is for having my own site's very own email list. :)

Cyricx 05-19-2009 06:29 PM

As mentioned, it will not work unless as someone is added to the mailing list.. they are added as a user.

This would be a management nightmare.

If any email address was not a valid user, they would get email messages from the site.

The mailing lists you encounter set the reply-to, but they do not change the "from" sometimes they will change the representation of the from. But typically, in the header information, that is not changed.

So. No. It would not feasibly work and unfortunately it's not something I plan on coding as it would be irrational to have both running. Those free hosts all have a board system there.

The primary argument I've used in convincing those that use them to switch is who owns the servers.

They may be using those boards but the servers are owned by that free host and they can allow that information to be released to anyone at any point in time.

In moving to a vbulletin hosted mailing list, you have sole control over the information and who can access what.

Cyricx 05-19-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by zhangyc (Post 1809021)
Hi, Cyricx.
Where could I find this script? I tried to find in my admincp, but did not get any result. Please show me the path, thanks.

In your admincp, you should have a box on the left side for "email intetration" click on the arrow to open that up and click "forum settings help".

If you do not see that in your admincp, you did not upload all of the files. :)

SamirDarji 05-19-2009 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyricx (Post 1813640)
As mentioned, it will not work unless as someone is added to the mailing list.. they are added as a user.

This would be a management nightmare.

If any email address was not a valid user, they would get email messages from the site.

The mailing lists you encounter set the reply-to, but they do not change the "from" sometimes they will change the representation of the from. But typically, in the header information, that is not changed.

I think I may not have explained what I was trying to do thoroughly. I really don't care about replying back from the forum or having any of my forum members even see the postings. I just want to have the emails in the email list post into a forum so that way I don't have to check them in my email.

There are several groups that I have to keep tabs on that use email lists, and if I was able to have their emails come directly into a forum, I'd never have to leave my main site to read everything. Your plugin introduces the possibility of doing this since an email can post to a thread/forum.

Based on this idea, do you think that the system of forwarding emails from the list would get them simply posted into the forum?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyricx (Post 1813640)
The primary argument I've used in convincing those that use them to switch is who owns the servers.

They may be using those boards but the servers are owned by that free host and they can allow that information to be released to anyone at any point in time.

In moving to a vbulletin hosted mailing list, you have sole control over the information and who can access what.

I completely agree with this arguement, and the subject of intellectual property rights is overlooked by so many. But I'm in the southeast US and these people really don't understand the implications until it hits them. Today, I even had a staff member post our unique and original material on youtube. :rolleyes:

Cyricx 05-20-2009 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyricx (Post 1813640)
As mentioned, it will not work unless as someone is added to the mailing list.. they are added as a user.

This would be a management nightmare.

If any email address was not a valid user, they would get email messages from the site.

I'm sorry..

I really don't know how I can be more clear then that.

If everyone on the list was not a registered user on the forums. It would NOT post to the forum and they would get an email with an ERROR.

If you want to go through and create a user for every single person on the list and each time someone is added create a new user. More power to ya. However...

This would be a management nightmare.

This system is not made, and I personally will not be coding it in such a way as to accomplish what you are asking.

*shrug* :( I'm kinda at a loss for how to explain it any better. Feel like I'm just repeating myself endlessly hehe :)

More power to ya in your struggle with them though :)

SamirDarji 05-20-2009 01:38 PM

I think I'm still not getting my point across. :( I'll make an example.

Let's call a group "A". This group has an email list. I set up an email address that will subscribe to the group on my server, let's call it "eA". This email address does not tie to a user in vB. I have eA subscribe to the email list of group A. So the email address eA is receiving the emails from the email list of group A.

I completely understand that even if the email addresses eA is a user on vB that it will not post because the send to header on the email list of group A contains the real address of the sender, who more than likely is not a registered user on vB.

So to circumvent this problem, I set up a user on vB called robotA. This user has their own email address, rA. Now, because rA is an email address with a valid user on vB, rA can post via email to the forum that uses EI.

Then I set up a forwarding on my server that forwards the emails that eA receives to rA. This changes the send to header. Then rA forwards this email to EI, which also changes the send to header. Because the send to header now matches a valid vB user, EI will process the reply.

Thank you for the previous quick replies and I look forward to your thoughts. :)


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