i figured it out..thanks again for this great mod!!

Hi,

does anybody else such weired urls?
http://www.sub-cultures.de/en/es/es/...20&language=en
(I found this link via baklinkcheck)
There are now two questions.
How can this happen and where is the origin place where the wrong link is shown?
And why does the url work with &language=en when in Vbet options
Translation links type = Create URL's according to SEO link consensus (i.e. '/en/address')
is activated?

Is .htaccess causing the problem?
Some facts:
I use Vbet 2.3.10
Homelanguage is 'DE' additional languages are 'EN', 'ES' and 'FR'

I would be glad, if someone could help me.:o

did you change in admincp->vbet->main ->Link Type to : VBSEO_URI

I just installed your add on to my forum at http://mfestforum.com/forum It works great and translates the pages but when you try to click on the default language of English it doesn't go back to it. It stays on the language that you translated it to. I have tried it on both Firefox and Chrome and it does this.

Anything that I am missing or did incorrectly? I don't have VBSEO setup.

Thanks. Installed.
The malay flag shown is wrong.
You might want to change it. :D

Ive run this mod since it started, yes it does bring traffic but it kills servers and has many other bugs, deformed pages, broken links to name a few. Just look at Google and Bing caches of your pages and in webmaster tools, many, many errors.

Until you sort the code out and the vbseo integration the rest of the vB community will continue to laugh at you. Seriously, im not being a +++++, i really like this product but you do not beta testing, have no bug testing, release bad code and it is slow as hell. Also making VBET users edit VBSEO files is a joke, and very unprofessional. VBSEO is an excellent product and you are undermining them.

Here is my server load after uninstalling VBET, the changes are dramatic. The server is a 32 core AMD with 8gigabytes of RAM and 4 SCSI 15k drives in RAID 10, a real powerhouse.

The only thing I have done is uninstall VBET completely, not just disable in vB admincp, as this still leaves the product installed due to all the custom file edits.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

And here is Google webmaster tools reports for user page speed (data is delayed, still dropping) and crawler page speed, the results are dramatic. We're talking a up to a 10th of what it was, so 10 seconds load times down to 2! 700ms page crawl times down to 75ms.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

So all you people like me whom like extra traffic, make sure you getting that and not trading foreign language traffic and upsetting off all your native speakers in the process with bad load times and deformed pages, broken links and also annoying Google and getting less native traffic than before installing. Seriously, I cannot emphasize how much this mod hurts your site.

Take note VBET, sort you code out you are doing nothing but harming vBulletin users and making money from it!

Dave, what version of the software were you running? I'm assuming you're running some kind of datastore cacher?

I've personally had great results with the latest version for 3.8. I've had vBET installed for a year now and my non-english speaking traffic is up 230%! (english speaking traffic is up 20% from last year)

Yeah, xcache, vboptimise, powerful server, everything setup and tweeked to perfection. The stats dont lie, im still getting the same traffic still as google hasnt dropped the pages yet and load and everything is so low. Old translated content is currently 301'd to english. Must be the translated pages, there is no other explanation.

Im not disputing traffic increases, but check your forum, the mod creates broken pages, broken links all sorts, seriously, check everyone of your pages in a browser. Also, traffic hits is one thing, but is this increasing your posts/threads? is it turning off your regular members, all the foreign content mixed in with english, do you really know the effect it is having on your community other than more hits in server logs.

Id love to see your google wmt stats, what sort of page speed and crawl speed you are getting ;) As soon as page speed becomes a bigger issue, people running this are going to see some serious traffic drops, big G wont tolerate 10sec page loads. And that is what wmt reports these pages as taking to render. wmt doesnt lie either.

Yeh, unfortunately my page load times weren't as good to begin with as they could be, but in my testing vBET didn't have a serious effect on load times. My bottleneck is apache and my webserver. I'm running vBO, memcache, nginx proxy, CDNs, etc. I've come to the conclusion that this simply won't be better until I have, at the least, a load balanced pair of powerful web servers + the database server. I wouldn't mind having a RAID 10 array either!

Where were you seeing broken links? I have several mods installed that are also translated (vbdynamics, a custom database) and haven't run across any issues.

Questions: Did you have all 52 languages enabled? From what I've experienced this is a big issue in itself. When google sees all those pages it starts crawling, which creates a serious load. The process of getting phrases and caching them for the first time is very intensive, regardless of how bug free the code is, especially if you have all 52 languages enabled. Then re-caching every 15 day cycles and serving up 52x of pages you have is just that, expensive. I only have 12 enabled and the space required to cache and serve up 150,000 threads isn't too bad, but yes, it does add to resources needed.

As far as the effects on the community go, I can see how there can be a negative effect. For my site there hasn't been simply because conversions into members was low to begin with. If it does become a problem, this is just another dimension of community management that has to be sorted. I've thought about handling different languages on many levels, including a corporate environment. The concept of translating on the fly in a community is the best way to handle this that I've seen.

Load, page speed times and crawl page times are even worse while the cache is being built, all these stats are from a fully cached translation database, so being pulled from mysql, no writing. Broken links includes the breadcrumbs linking to pages that don exist, clone/duplicate pages being generated with bizarre query strings as urls. Similar threads disappearing and being posted in the post content instead of the actuall post text, all sorts. Also, when checking many thousands of pages in the cache of google and bing finding pages being cut off, so only being indexed upto post 5 of a 20 post thread, footers missing, all sorts. This is because the bots dont crawl like a browser and the bots generate pages with errors, the issue is if the bot is first to the page, it is translated wrong and then every user that accesses it sees the bad generation from cache. I could go on, basically for any serious SEO it is a wild goose, you have no way of controlling it, it messes with too much. I like control, without this mod my site code is 100% perfect, with it im constantly chasing bugs. IMO those that havent seen these serious SEO bugs are thos that have not properly searched for them or dont know how to spot them, no offence. They are not always obvious. Seriously uninstall for just a few days and check all your stats, you'd be amazed. I'd been running it so long i thought these high figures were normal. I tried vbo, CDN, new servers everything and all it took was to remove this to get all the metrics reporting desirable results.