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MPDev 07-01-2007 11:28 PM

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bryanb 07-02-2007 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPDev (Post 1280900)
vB cookie clearing does not remove this cookie.

Great - does this cookie have a name? How would I find it? Thanks in advance.

Fantastic mod, by the way. I'm having great fun with this :D

MiahBeSmokin420 07-08-2007 07:14 AM

OK SERIOUSLY,

Is There Any Way That It Is Even The Slightest Bit Possable That It Could Mess Up And Detect The Wrong People At The Wrong Times And Stuff Like That?

Cause I Got People Getting Detected That I Know Personally That Live Almost 10 States Away.

And I Know You Say Its Cookie Based, And I Know What A Cookie Is And Dose Im Not Dumb.

But Honestly, What Are The Odd's Or Your Hack/Mod, Going Bad/Acting Up?

And Im Useing The Newest Version Of vB 3.6.7 PL1

MPDev 07-08-2007 11:17 PM

Nope, no way. It's entirely cookie based; as such, there is no way for the system to pick up those values from another system.

Maybe you're members are logging in from other places and just not remembering doing so..... ;)

Dave Hawley 07-09-2007 06:41 AM

Cool hack, I've already busted a few banned users!

Chipper 07-22-2007 01:43 AM

MPDev, can you please post "the idiots guide to install & setup"?

Think this is a great thing and can't wait to start using it.. Thanks

MPDev 07-23-2007 01:13 PM

That's covered in the two steps in the initial post; you don't need to do anything else.

symptome 08-09-2007 05:51 AM

Would it be an idea to enhance this script with a possibility to send a PM to one of the users? Something like a template with text, that can be used, so that I just have to push "send" to ask the user about the reason, he's logging in more than once.

Raydar 08-09-2007 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by symptome (Post 1313311)
Would it be an idea to enhance this script with a possibility to send a PM to one of the users? Something like a template with text, that can be used, so that I just have to push "send" to ask the user about the reason, he's logging in more than once.

G'day Mate,

With this hack you must keep in mind that there are numerous valid reasons a user would create another account from the same computer. May want to change his / her name, may have a friend of family member that also surfs your site from the same computer etc etc etc.

Sending them a PM when this happens can make your forums appear as an extremely controlled environment. If the person doesn't have a valid reason for signing up another account, they'll probably be embarassed and leave (and you lose a member). I'd be careful about questioning members for something like this.

You are better off to simply sit and watch what the two accounts do. Then you'll know for sure why the second account was made.

Good luck with it.

Reg

bryanb 08-09-2007 06:28 AM

There is one thing I've noticed - I don't know if it's a bug or not. When the AE detector detects a member with another account, I have a moderator account PM the mods and post in a private thread. This mod account assumes the perpetrators IP address.

For instance, joeblow logs in from janeblows computer - the AE announcement is sent via PM to the mods and posted in a private thread by moderator1. Moderator1 now has joeblow's IP address. Please check. Thanks!

MPDev 08-09-2007 01:51 PM

Yep, the IP is a known issue but not something easily remedied.

NeitherSparky 08-10-2007 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryanb (Post 1313327)
There is one thing I've noticed - I don't know if it's a bug or not. When the AE detector detects a member with another account, I have a moderator account PM the mods and post in a private thread. This mod account assumes the perpetrators IP address.

For instance, joeblow logs in from janeblows computer - the AE announcement is sent via PM to the mods and posted in a private thread by moderator1. Moderator1 now has joeblow's IP address. Please check. Thanks!

Yeah the first time I saw that my admin account had acquired all these weird IPs addys I thought the account had been hacked. It took me a little while to figure out what had actually happened.

Chipper 08-21-2007 09:25 AM

Great tool!! Busted a few people already. Using 3.68 and seems to work fine.

Congrats on a great tool!!

six58 09-09-2007 02:36 AM

hi have read through thread but a couple of things i'm still not clear on.

a) is it possible for two users (not using same pc) but under a proxy that gives them both the same IP address on the internet, to trip this detector? in other words tripping it through the IP - yes i know its cookie based and not IP based but i'm wondering if a proxy can be misread and trip.

b) i see that the reporter of the trip gets lumbered with the IP address of who is being reported. does the program also then share all the other IP addresses that either person uses with each other? e.g detected person1 and person2 on IP1. looking into other IP's the users may have used they suddenly also share IP2,IP3 etc.

i need to know if there is any possibility no matter how slim that these are possible before i totally ruin someone's life thanks

edit: was meant to post this in 3.6.x thread oops

NeitherSparky 09-09-2007 04:47 AM

(The answer ought to be the same regardless of the version so I'm just answering here...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by six58 (Post 1335168)
a) is it possible for two users (not using same pc) but under a proxy that gives them both the same IP address on the internet, to trip this detector? in other words tripping it through the IP - yes i know its cookie based and not IP based but i'm wondering if a proxy can be misread and trip.

Nah. My brother and I share an apartment and have our own computers and we've never tripped this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by six58 (Post 1335168)
b) i see that the reporter of the trip gets lumbered with the IP address of who is being reported. does the program also then share all the other IP addresses that either person uses with each other? e.g detected person1 and person2 on IP1. looking into other IP's the users may have used they suddenly also share IP2,IP3 etc.

I'm not quite sure I understand the question...Like if I have my admin account be the one that reports the trip, that account gets the IP of the person tripping the detector added to the "IPs posted from." Um, that's all that happens as far as I know. And you probably shouldn't have anything set so that non-staff can view IPs, either on a post, on the Who's Online, or in a member's history anyways.

MrNase 10-09-2007 07:35 PM

How can I verify that it is working?


We have two admins, #2 logged in as #324 (fake user) and then #324 logged in as #1 and then #1 logged in as #2 again and nothing happened. :(

coffee_bean 10-14-2007 07:26 PM

Have you checked in the AdminCP that the user groups in question are not ignored by the detector?

frozen187 10-29-2007 02:26 PM

I've seem to run into a issue and this only happens with this users account.

deepsilence seems to have multiple personalities using deepsilence and deepsilence sharing the same computer.

flynnibus 11-02-2007 03:37 PM

I too have seen the same user trip the detector on themselves. So far, only one account has done it.

But I'm also experiencing other wierd behavior, such as the same pair of users tripping it multiple times in sequence. Can someone elaborate on the method use? Is this normal?

For instance, userA and userB are a couple, so they share a computer and both have separate accounts on the forum.

I get a userA tripped AE detector PM - ok, expected.

But I then get the same UserA tripped... multiple times afterwards (and not UserB inbetween).

I would expect possibly A, then B, then A, etc... Not A, A, A

frozen187 11-02-2007 04:54 PM

I think I have it cleared now I sent the user a message asking them to clear all their cookies. And then I installed a newer version

treasureman 11-24-2007 02:11 AM

I have one account that I get a report on daily as below:

username seems to have multiple personalities using and and and and and and and and and and username (http://myforum.com/member.php?u=10102) sharing the same computer. No soup for you!

Only 1 user name is listed, but it lists a strings of "and" and then the same user name at the end of the string of "and".

I can't figure it out. Any ideas? Using VB 3.65

Dave Hawley 11-24-2007 02:34 AM

One links to one username, the other links to another.

treasureman 11-24-2007 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Hawley (Post 1388409)
One links to one username, the other links to another.

Only one user name is listed!

Better example:

userbob seems to have multiple personalities using and and and and and and and and and and userbob (http://myforum.com/member.php?u=10102) sharing the same computer. No soup for you!

As you can see userbob is the only user name listed above. And what's with the string of "and"? When this first started with this user there were fewer "and"s. They seem to increase every day.

randychase 11-24-2007 06:14 PM

I have had the same thing happen occasionally with reporting a dual user that is really just one. I have not seen the string of ands.

richTV 01-03-2008 05:29 PM

currently running 3.6.8 PL2 and i have reinstalled this a few times hoping it would clear any cookies which i thought might've been corrupt

we even reset the cookie and path domains thinking the issue was there but getting the same issues.

looks like the further we get from vB3.5.4 the less effective this addon becomes

known issues:

1) outputting names even though i have it set to not report that particular usergroup
2) double-outputting names in same reported detection thread
3) outputting names which we are 100% certain aren't the same people

if u guys use this addon, u will need to scrutinize over the accounts and not simply ban accounts upon seeing an output

would be nice if someone could take the reigns on this great addon and fix it so that it runs glitch-free in newer vB versions. :)

tnx none-the-less to MPDev for a great hack. :up:

ctbo 01-06-2008 03:25 PM

Great plugin, but it doesnt seem to detect when a user was banned? this is an important factor for me, any chance of incorporating it.

Cheers

richTV 01-06-2008 06:20 PM

here's one of the craziest outputs we have and i can tell u i never created those alias' accounts! lol

crash251 seems to have multiple personalities using crash251 and richTV and newstart and crash251 and crash251 and crash251 and crash251 and crash251 and crash251 and crash251 and newstart and crash251 sharing the same computer. No soup for you! and you! and you!

@ctbo, there is an addon to the AE Detector:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=127045

u can set it up to automatically ban a banned user.

HTH

UgLy-NeRd 01-27-2008 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richTV (Post 1416696)
here's one of the craziest outputs we have and i can tell u i never created those alias' accounts! lol

crash251 seems to have multiple personalities using crash251 and richTV and newstart and crash251 and crash251 and crash251 and crash251 and crash251 and crash251 and crash251 and newstart and crash251 sharing the same computer. No soup for you! and you! and you!

@ctbo, there is an addon to the AE Detector:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=127045

u can set it up to automatically ban a banned user.

HTH

I get the same exact problem, all the time..

DeeperImage 02-24-2008 03:00 PM

has anyone tried this with 3.6.8?

todd222222 02-24-2008 03:21 PM

running with 3.6.8 without any trouble

sbirish96 04-11-2008 09:22 PM

So, I'm pretty illiterate with this kind of stuff.

What do I edit in the plugin to set:

1. What Forum to create the thread in? (I.E. where do I plug in the Forum ID. Do I have to somehow set who is making the thread? Just kind of a step-by-step of "Change this to person's name. Change this to the Forum ID.")

and/or

2. Who to PM it to?

Thanks and sorry.

Thomas P 04-14-2008 05:58 PM

This settings are all done via the ACP (clickable)

You don't have to fiddle with code.

abrecher 04-17-2008 08:36 AM

Does this work on 3.7 ?

chonk 04-26-2008 02:57 PM

Thank you Soup Nazi :D

bryanb 04-26-2008 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abrecher (Post 1492779)
Does this work on 3.7 ?

Running this on 3.7.0 Release Candidate 4 with no probs.

zlos 05-30-2008 04:19 PM

I do have strange problems with 3.7.0 - sometimes it works, but mostly not.

Joey805 06-07-2008 06:48 AM

I'm having problems with in on 3.7 as well. It detects mutiple logins but it also says that other users are part of what got detected and they really arent.

Weird stuff

bryanb 06-09-2008 12:30 PM

Is there a way to have a review for an upgrade? The last release is about two years old :D

I rely on this plugin, and I don't want to have any ass-clowns flying under the radar.

MPDev 06-14-2008 06:28 PM

This is the 3.5 release; you would want to be using the 3.6 release for vb 3.6 and above.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=125871

TFEX 07-13-2008 07:46 PM

Thanks for the great mod, installed!


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