They are not the same user or password, and never have been.
We have an idea how they may have got the details, and its not via anything vbulletin related.

Was my question not worth answering? This hack is being reported in mainstream tech media, and vB can't be bothered to give proper answers or alleviate concerns?

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013...0-day-attacks/

Arasetechia is mainstream tech media?

I still don't understand what additional information you want/need. I doubt they'll give you the exact method.

Why do people keep trying to find ways to give VB passes on this?

Needing to know if the hack was due to an exploit in VB itself is a hugely legitimate concern.

Is Information Week mainstream tech enough for you? http://www.informationweek.com/secur...d/d-id/1112660

If not, how about PC World? http://www.pcworld.com/article/20644...ort-forum.html

Paul said in post #111 the recent issues are not vBulletin related.

No he doesn't - he says IB might have an idea of how the attacks may have been attempted.

Do you only read what you think you see or what is actually there. "And its not anything vbulletin related."

Part of IBs great plan to be offensive to customers? This is a serious issue, and I'm asking legitimate questions. Please don't insult me.

Paul's post does not say that the hack wasn't caused by a vB exploit - it says IB may have an idea about something that might have caused the hack. It then says what they're looking into isn't a vB exploit.

That isn't the same as saying the hack wasn't caused by a vB exploit. Unless Paul gives us more information, we don't really have any idea whether a new exploit was used. The level of communication from IB is so bad that not even media sources can get a straight answer on what's happening - are customers remotely valued by this company or have even the staff given up on the product?

I give up.

Think this thread has runs it's course as it's turning in to bickering which clouds the facts.