Originally Posted by tgreer

A moderation staff that barely moderates, and who in fact seem to be responsible for most of the inane chatter that goes on, and who've never established and don't enforce professional standards of communication and conduct. While you cannot enforce lucidity or rational thought, you could at least do something about profanity and off-topic comments.

Until JelSoft gets the house in order here, they shouldn't refer people to this site.

Originally Posted by tgreer

I'd welcome a reasonable, logical reply vs. what we've been getting.

Originally Posted by tgreer

I take your contributions to this thread as a case-in-point. If I've said something offensive, used profanity, or broken a site rule, then by all means do something about it.

If you'd like to make a thoughtful response, as a staff member, to the issues surrounding the "Coders Discussion" forum, I'd certainly like to hear it: I'd welcome a reasonable, logical reply vs. what we've been getting.

But implying that I'm a baby who needs babysitting, how is that an appropriate response from a staff member? Looking through this thread, the posts that need the most attention from a professional moderator with high standards, are YOURS.

I need no other evidence of the problems with staff and the coder mentality that I've been discussing, than this thread.

Originally Posted by tgreer

If you'd meant the thread, you would have said so. Instead, you quoted my statement, and made your "babysitting" comment in reference to, quote, "statements like this". Now you claim that oh, no, you meant the entire thread? Please.

For an example of how a moderator should reply to critical remarks, see Kier's response on vBulletin.com. Now, he may or may not agree with anything I said. He may think I'm a complete idiot. He may think my suggested changes are outlandish. He could have said so. He didn't: he acknowledged my post, said he was aware of the problems here, and that changes were being made. He did so without engaging in personal insults or opinions, and didn't make any statements he'd have to foolishly backtrack to cover later.

Your first response is to attack, then claim you didn't attack, and then suggest the fault lies with me and I should read your contributions more carefully. Brilliant.

Originally Posted by Boofo

More cheese? :cross-eyed:

Originally Posted by tgreer

If you'd meant the thread, you would have said so. Instead, you quoted my statement, and made your "babysitting" comment in reference to, quote, "statements like this". Now you claim that oh, no, you meant the entire thread? Please.

For an example of how a moderator should reply to critical remarks, see Kier's response on vBulletin.com. Now, he may or may not agree with anything I said. He may think I'm a complete idiot. He may think my suggested changes are outlandish. He could have said so. He didn't: he acknowledged my post, said he was aware of the problems here, and that changes were being made. He did so without engaging in personal insults or opinions, and didn't make any statements he'd have to foolishly backtrack to cover later.

Your first response is to attack, then claim you didn't attack, and then suggest the fault lies with me and I should read your contributions more carefully. Brilliant.

Originally Posted by Boofo

Well, since you intent on reading posts and applying your own twisted meaning to them, no wonder things are the way they are when certain individuals would rather point fingers to places where the problems don't actually exist thus creating more problems. Things will never get turned around doing it that way, sir. ;)

Originally Posted by Revan

Thank you. You have no idea how refreshing it is to read a post by someone who actually understands one of the reasons as to why the coders forum is in place.