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bornoffire 05-12-2008 10:25 AM

check ur usergroups

peter.m 05-12-2008 10:33 AM

Hello,

Where can i change the Departments ??

PaulSonny 05-12-2008 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exetel (Post 1516965)
Jase2,

Your not going to get the market for ppl to pay for this type of mod, they would simply go for Joomla that has the bridge for VB and use the ticket system which already has some of the features you might be working on for the this so called "Pay version" Druple also has a bridge for VB as well and a ticket system... In fact most CMS have some sort of ticket system/bridging options for VB

On top of this customers already pay for VB as it is, what would make customers want to pay for your ticket system mod? when you can get a FREE CMS that already has a ticket system in it and more then likely a much more advance system for FREE?

Regards

Exetel

This is your opinion, and your first post. Others may not want a full CMS system and just a support ticket system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaser.nl (Post 1516970)
this looks really nice, will install this as soon as i have the time..

replaces the support forum hack i am using now and looks much better :D

Great work !

I'm glad you like it. Thanks for your comments.

Quote:

Originally Posted by baghdad4ever (Post 1517006)
i see strange thing

when i enter as guest

i can see all tickets

even if i choose no permissions in usergroup

so what is that?

When you say they can see all tickets, what do you mean?

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielc2384 (Post 1517017)
I cant seem to submit a ticket at all. In helpcenter.php the side colum just has:

HelpCenter
Navigation
View My Tickets

There is no "Submit a ticket".

You need to set the Usergroup Permissions for HelpCenter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peter.m (Post 1517033)
Hello,

Where can i change the Departments ??

This can be done via the AdminCP under Department Management.

Thanks, Paul.

baghdad4ever 05-12-2008 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bornoffire (Post 1517030)
check ur usergroups

i check Unregistered / Not Logged In usergroup

and set all help center permission to no

and the same thing

PaulSonny 05-12-2008 10:48 AM

Guests are able to see there own tickets (based on their IP Address).

Thanks, Paul.

exetel 05-12-2008 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulSonny (Post 1517042)
This is your opinion, and your first post. Others may not want a full CMS system and just a support ticket system.

Thanks, Paul.

It might be my first post however if you have seen how long I've been registered for and the fact I'm still a paying customer for VB so my opinion on this still counts right? no matter how many posts someone makes right?...

And the fact i asked some important questions there mate which I'm sure others like to know the answers to if they going to choose a payed mod over a free one...

So lets try this again shale we?

What makes yours different from any other FREE ticket system out there that might have better features?


Bottom line is here you start off something given away for free that's fair enough but then later down the track you pull the plug basically begging for ppl to PAY for something extra that they might want which by all accounts would be a normal feature in any Ticket system how have totally missed the plot here?... Don't you think this a bit hash?.... I know I'm finding it hard to swallow this deception.

Regards

Cheyne

danielc2384 05-12-2008 11:49 AM

How can moderators reply to posts in the help center since they dont have access to the admin cp?

exetel 05-12-2008 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielc2384 (Post 1517126)
How can moderators reply to posts in the help center since they dont have access to the admin cp?

You should be able to set up permissions if I'm not mistaken for the mods able to have access to the ticket system :)

powerful_rogue 05-12-2008 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulSonny (Post 1514736)
Well im afraid it isnt HelpCenter causing the problem, because that template above has no style at all, just alignment.

If you want me to log in and check for you please PM details me.

Thanks, Paul.

Hi Paul,

I know youve probably been busy, just wanted to see if youve had a moment to log in and check.

Thanks

Dave

Hostboard 05-12-2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielc2384 (Post 1517126)
How can moderators reply to posts in the help center since they dont have access to the admin cp?

Give them permission to see them and they should be able to view the tickets through the HV menu.

danielc2384 05-12-2008 12:04 PM

^ In the "HelpCenter Permissions" category I set all moderators permissions to "yes" but they still can't view it. :confused:

PaulSonny 05-12-2008 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exetel (Post 1517096)
It might be my first post however if you have seen how long I've been registered for and the fact I'm still a paying customer for VB so my opinion on this still counts right? no matter how many posts someone makes right?...

And the fact i asked some important questions there mate which I'm sure others like to know the answers to if they going to choose a payed mod over a free one...

So lets try this again shale we?

What makes yours different from any other FREE ticket system out there that might have better features?


Bottom line is here you start off something given away for free that's fair enough but then later down the track you pull the plug basically begging for ppl to PAY for something extra that they might want which by all accounts would be a normal feature in any Ticket system how have totally missed the plot here?... Don't you think this a bit hash?.... I know I'm finding it hard to swallow this deception.

Regards

Cheyne

I'm not looking to get into any arguments over this so this will be my final reply on the matter.

At the end of the day, alot and I mean alot of effort goes into these types of modifications both coding and support.

We are not pulling the plug on anything, where have you got this assumption from? We have been honest and clear from the start as to what our intentions will be.

We are not requiring anyone to pay for this modification, it is based basically upon choice, you either want to, or you dont, and can you please provide me with a link to a post/comment where I have begged for people to PAY?

Some of the features in the pro version of HelpCenter you might/might not find in other support ticket systems. To be honest I dont care what features others have, this is mine and Jase2's modification and we will put into it what we think it needs, as we already have put alot of the suggestions people have mentioned, more than we should have!

AND finally, I dont appreciate you accusing me of deception and trying to deceive people, like I have said above, myself and Jase2 have been clear from the start about what our intentions are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielc2384 (Post 1517126)
How can moderators reply to posts in the help center since they dont have access to the admin cp?

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielc2384 (Post 1517147)
^ In the "HelpCenter Permissions" category I set all moderators permissions to "yes" but they still can't view it. :confused:

You have to give moderators the permission to manage all tickets, are you having problems with other usergroups and their permissions?

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerful_rogue (Post 1517138)
Hi Paul,

I know youve probably been busy, just wanted to see if youve had a moment to log in and check.

Thanks

Dave

Sorry I have not been in touch sooner, I have just started work on MyCart and got really carried away and totally forgot about the PM I received. I will be home in around an hour and will have a look.

My apologises and thanks, Paul.

Jase2 05-12-2008 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exetel (Post 1517096)
It might be my first post however if you have seen how long I've been registered for and the fact I'm still a paying customer for VB so my opinion on this still counts right? no matter how many posts someone makes right?...

And the fact i asked some important questions there mate which I'm sure others like to know the answers to if they going to choose a payed mod over a free one...

So lets try this again shale we?

What makes yours different from any other FREE ticket system out there that might have better features?


Bottom line is here you start off something given away for free that's fair enough but then later down the track you pull the plug basically begging for ppl to PAY for something extra that they might want which by all accounts would be a normal feature in any Ticket system how have totally missed the plot here?... Don't you think this a bit hash?.... I know I'm finding it hard to swallow this deception.

Regards

Cheyne

Sorry, I just had to comment on this. FYI, the lite version is so users could get a feel of what the basics of HelpCenter is about. In the paid version, there is going to be even more features, with the same great support!

Really, have we begged users to pay? I don't think so. Get your act right before you start jumping to conclusions. vBulletin had a lite version... hmmm, but you still paid for vBulletin paid ? Yes!

I don't mind answering questions, but when someone doesn't think before they ask or accuse, then I really cannot be bothered with them. Good bye!

powerful_rogue 05-12-2008 04:05 PM

As much as I would love to be a coder, its never going to happen. Some people have it and others dont.

I can tell that a lot of time and effort has gone into this mod and the support offered is second to none.

Im more then happy to pay for the premium version when it comes out. If it keeps Paul and Jase rolling out top quality mods like this then that cant be a bad thing.

Ive been after a support mod for a long time, and had to settle on a php script that looks clumsy and takes members away from the forum. Having eveything in one place like this mod does is great.

Plus, you dont have to buy the premium product, all the features you need for a basich help desk are included in the lite version.

Sorry to jump in on an argument thats nothing to do with me, it just winds me up when people complain about having to buy a full version. I own a car, however I dont expect Fiat to do the services and supply all the extras for free.

baghdad4ever 05-12-2008 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulSonny (Post 1517046)
Guests are able to see there own tickets (based on their IP Address).

Thanks, Paul.

thanks for your reply

i understand now

bec i make the ticket via username

and enter as guest and see my ticket

so if there r many users have the same ip (shared internet)

so they will see ticket of each other

and no privacy

so please can you change this

and make it via username only not by ip

gettingbetter 05-12-2008 06:21 PM

Some suggestions for future releases, if not already implemented or mentioned:

1) A pull-down textbox on the ticket response screeen with "Close this ticket" (and other variables) so that the ticket can be closed upon responding.

2) reCAPTCHA field for certain usergroups (unregistered, awaiting email confirmation, etc) when submitting a ticket. Deters spam, obviously.

3) Perhaps some aesthetic designs or graphics. Not essential, but might make things look spiffy.

This is a very good and professional mod. Thanks for all the hard work I know you put into it.

PaulSonny 05-12-2008 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jase2 (Post 1517305)
Sorry, I just had to comment on this. FYI, the lite version is so users could get a feel of what the basics of HelpCenter is about. In the paid version, there is going to be even more features, with the same great support!

Really, have we begged users to pay? I don't think so. Get your act right before you start jumping to conclusions. vBulletin had a lite version... hmmm, but you still paid for vBulletin paid ? Yes!

I don't mind answering questions, but when someone doesn't think before they ask or accuse, then I really cannot be bothered with them. Good bye!

Well said, I couldnt of put it better myself!

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerful_rogue (Post 1517375)
As much as I would love to be a coder, its never going to happen. Some people have it and others dont.

I can tell that a lot of time and effort has gone into this mod and the support offered is second to none.

Im more then happy to pay for the premium version when it comes out. If it keeps Paul and Jase rolling out top quality mods like this then that cant be a bad thing.

Ive been after a support mod for a long time, and had to settle on a php script that looks clumsy and takes members away from the forum. Having eveything in one place like this mod does is great.

Plus, you dont have to buy the premium product, all the features you need for a basich help desk are included in the lite version.

Sorry to jump in on an argument thats nothing to do with me, it just winds me up when people complain about having to buy a full version. I own a car, however I dont expect Fiat to do the services and supply all the extras for free.

Thanks for your comments, much appreciated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by baghdad4ever (Post 1517478)
thanks for your reply

i understand now

bec i make the ticket via username

and enter as guest and see my ticket

so if there r many users have the same ip (shared internet)

so they will see ticket of each other

and no privacy

so please can you change this

and make it via username only not by ip

I agree this is an error, I will fix for RC2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gettingbetter (Post 1517508)
Some suggestions for future releases, if not already implemented or mentioned:

1) A pull-down textbox on the ticket response screeen with "Close this ticket" (and other variables) so that the ticket can be closed upon responding.

2) reCAPTCHA field for certain usergroups (unregistered, awaiting email confirmation, etc) when submitting a ticket. Deters spam, obviously.

3) Perhaps some aesthetic designs or graphics. Not essential, but might make things look spiffy.

This is a very good and professional mod. Thanks for all the hard work I know you put into it.

1) You can already close a ticket from the Ticket Options menu with the correct Usergroup Settings.

2) This has already been suggested and Jase is implementing into the paid version.

3) Can you please confirm what you mean? Graphics for where?

Thanks, Paul.

powerful_rogue 05-12-2008 08:54 PM

Just to say thanks once again Paul for sorting that problem out for me. Ive finally been able to get rid of that horrid support system I was previously using and put this one live on the forum :)

Ive had problems with a few mods in the past, some free and some paid and the support didnt come close to what you have offered. Thank you once again :)

Ive also got a couple of suggestions for maybe a furture version. When you have it set to create a thread when a ticket has been created, maybe have a link in that thread that will take you straight to the ticket in question.

The other suggestion relates to unregistered members creating tickets. Im presuming one of the main reasons they will create a ticket is because:

1. They are having problems registering or
2. They have been banned.

Maybe an option for them to enter an email address rather then basing it on their ip. They can then either log into the help center using their email address or have the reply emailed to their email account.

Keep up the good work guys.

Dave

Twilkey 05-12-2008 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exetel (Post 1517096)
It might be my first post however if you have seen how long I've been registered for and the fact I'm still a paying customer for VB so my opinion on this still counts right? no matter how many posts someone makes right?...

And the fact i asked some important questions there mate which I'm sure others like to know the answers to if they going to choose a payed mod over a free one...

So lets try this again shale we?

What makes yours different from any other FREE ticket system out there that might have better features?


Bottom line is here you start off something given away for free that's fair enough but then later down the track you pull the plug basically begging for ppl to PAY for something extra that they might want which by all accounts would be a normal feature in any Ticket system how have totally missed the plot here?... Don't you think this a bit hash?.... I know I'm finding it hard to swallow this deception.

Regards

Cheyne

I kind of feel like now that I am on the team, I need to say something here.

1. Support - You talk about these free mods. What would you do if the mod is not supported. I use Joomla on my site and I have yet to find a mod like this that is supported. And if I did find one, it probably isn't as supported as much as our mods. I am personally not a regular coder on this mod, but I am a member of the Development team. I even chime in and answer questions and such. That alone shows that we do offer top notch support. And when we release MyCart, We will show that mod just as much support.

2. Integration - You talk about bridges. There are some bridges out there. Joomla has one, but for most people, it takes hiring someone to get it installed. Even then you have to worry about that mod being supported. If it is not supported then there is a good chance that there are bugs and holes in it. You also have to think about upgrades. If you use Joomla, then you know that 1.0 is a bit different then 1.5. Most of the mods that work on 1.0, don't work on 1.5 and even some of them that do work, are screwed up. Again, I use Joomla, and personally, if I had the time to go through and import that database into vbadvanced and vbulletin, I would. Joomla is sloppy in my opinion, and most of the mods made for it are sloppy as well. Now wouldn't you rather have a mod that is so easy to install and set up, that you do not need to hire someone to do it for you. Even then, if you do need help, we have great support. Also on a smaller note, if you install a whole cms then you have to worry about styling. If you get our mod, then the styling is already done for you. No need to look into getting a skin for the cms you only got because you needed a support ticket system.
Another thing to look at it users. If you get a cms for the support system and you dont want to hire someone to bridge it with vB, then you have to worry about two sets of user tables. Because personally, I don't like spam, and if you don't require registration, then you will probably get alot of unneeded tickets. Our mod uses the already established vBulletin user table.

So if you look at this, If a complete noob, that knows nothing about skinning, or doing anything with any system other then vbulletin, comes here and needs a Support Ticket system or a shopping cart, then its probably going to be cheaper to just buy our mod.

On a last note, because I can't think of anything else to say really, All this will go for MyCart also.

youradhere4222 05-12-2008 11:16 PM

No one is implying that you are being forced to pay, but I think we're disappointed that a modification with such potential is this has features reserved for those who pay.

Take ibPro Arcade, for example - no paid version. I guess it could be argued that the support takes time, but money won't buy time, and there is the option to leave a hack unsupported, as well as a donation option, which I know is used.

Tom_S 05-12-2008 11:22 PM

Good Lord people! You all do realize this is your open platform to look good for customer service. Ignore the idiots already. Let the flaming go. This thread is getting eat up with it.

peterle1 05-13-2008 10:21 AM

Can anyone tell me, what the big difference to the vBulletin Project Tools is?

I really can't see the special point. Sorry for that. :o

Jase2 05-13-2008 03:41 PM

Because the Project Tools isn't a support ticket system. That aren't its intentions.

peterle1 05-13-2008 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jase2 (Post 1518411)
Because the Project Tools isn't a support ticket system. That aren't its intentions.

Yes, but we can use it as one, can't we?

Jase2 05-13-2008 08:03 PM

I wouldn't of thought so -- it's not designed to do that.

dancue 05-13-2008 08:18 PM

It all boils down to support. Project tools is not going to support it's product as a support ticket system.

HelpCenter will be supported and catered as a support ticket system.

It makes all the difference in the world.

Smiry Kin's 05-14-2008 12:09 AM

there away to make all tickets private?

PaulSonny 05-14-2008 08:48 AM

At the minute no.

In RC2 I am planning to add a queries page which will allow you to execute varies queries, such as making all tickets private. Others will include all tickets closed. All tickets open.

Thanks, Paul.

Smiry Kin's 05-14-2008 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulSonny (Post 1519170)
At the minute no.

In RC2 I am planning to add a queries page which will allow you to execute varies queries, such as making all tickets private. Others will include all tickets closed. All tickets open.

Thanks, Paul.

not even away to remove the "Public,Private" option?

PaulSonny 05-14-2008 02:52 PM

I'm afraid im not removing the option to remove the Public/Private option as this was already a request.

Another way round it would to be disable the view of Public Tickets and then it wouldn't really matter.

Thanks, Paul.

Antivirus 05-14-2008 10:11 PM

Very nice PaulSonny, waiting for this to become stable, but checking it out on a dev board - everyone's been looking for this for quite some time now here at vborg. :)

PaulSonny 05-15-2008 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antivirus (Post 1519889)
Very nice PaulSonny, waiting for this to become stable, but checking it out on a dev board - everyone's been looking for this for quite some time now here at vborg. :)

Thanks Antivirus, make sure to report any bugs you find at PaulSonny.com

Thanks, Paul.

Smiry Kin's 05-17-2008 12:42 AM

well 1 big bug is that unregistered users can still access the helpcenter.php, they do not get the login screen asking them to sign in etc etc.. which is very annoying..

Smiry Kin's 05-17-2008 01:25 AM

Paul FYI

for those who use vBSEO

to use these settings will seo it all just add it to your current "Custom Rewrite Rules"
Code:

'^helpcenter\.php$' => 'support/'
'^helpcenter\.php\?do=(\w+)$' => 'support/$1'
//'helpcenter\.php\?do=ticket&tid=(.+)' => 'support/ticket/$1'
'helpcenter\.php\?do=ticket&tid=(.+)' => 'support/ticket/$1.html'


ShawneyJ 05-17-2008 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiry Kin's (Post 1522225)
Paul FYI

for those who use vBSEO

to use these settings will seo it all just add it to your current "Custom Rewrite Rules"
Code:

'^helpcenter\.php$' => 'support/'
'^helpcenter\.php\?do=(\w+)$' => 'support/$1'
//'helpcenter\.php\?do=ticket&tid=(.+)' => 'support/ticket/$1'
'helpcenter\.php\?do=ticket&tid=(.+)' => 'support/ticket/$1.html'



THANKS POOF ;)

Lizard King 05-17-2008 05:46 AM

Really good system Paul. I checked the code and installed this morning. I am really impressed.

Some feature requests :
When users who donot have privilidge to view , create any ticket shall face a warning message that they need to purchase subscriptions to access ticket system.
Tie this system with notices so that when there are unsolved tickets or ticket awaiting replies notices will give warning for staff.

PaulSonny 05-17-2008 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiry Kin's (Post 1522210)
well 1 big bug is that unregistered users can still access the helpcenter.php, they do not get the login screen asking them to sign in etc etc.. which is very annoying..

This is not a bug. It is incase you want guests to be able to use the support ticket system to report registration or log in problems.

In RC2 I am implementing another usergroup option "Can View Helpcenter" which will allow you to specify which usergroups can or can not view the helpcenter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizard King (Post 1522332)
Really good system Paul. I checked the code and installed this morning. I am really impressed.

Some feature requests :
When users who donot have privilidge to view , create any ticket shall face a warning message that they need to purchase subscriptions to access ticket system.
Tie this system with notices so that when there are unsolved tickets or ticket awaiting replies notices will give warning for staff.

Thanks for your comments, Paul.

Your first request you can implement yourself, just edit the phrase via your AdminCP.
Your second request has already been mentioned and is being considered.

xoutlawz00x 05-19-2008 05:04 AM

bookmarked this can probaly used as a request script

HobaZ 05-19-2008 10:22 AM

hello paul ,
nice mod i installed it but the helpcenter dont appear in navbar also i cant find manual temp edit in readme page , i've seareched for $template_hook[navbar_buttons_left]
in navbar temp and its not added , please tell me what to do i have same problem with arcade so i hope i can fix both , thanks

PaulSonny 05-19-2008 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HobaZ (Post 1524586)
hello paul ,
nice mod i installed it but the helpcenter dont appear in navbar also i cant find manual temp edit in readme page , i've seareched for $template_hook[navbar_buttons_left]
in navbar temp and its not added , please tell me what to do i have same problem with arcade so i hope i can fix both , thanks

Thanks for your comments Hobaz.

It sounds to me like you are using a custom Navbar template and it cant find "$template_hook[navbar_buttons_left]" in the template so it cant install the Automatic Template Edit.

In your navbar template, find where you want to place the HelpCenter link and paste the following:

Quote:

<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="helpcenter.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[helpcenter]</a></td>
Any further problems send me login details and I will login and check it over for you.

Thanks, Paul.


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