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Phalynx 05-28-2008 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkallberg21 (Post 1534102)
Regarding the vBSEO problem though, is there any solution to this? The quicker we can find a solution to this the better, imho.

I think a prefixes for the forum title will be a good solution, like f.e. "SG: My Group"

Quote:

Originally Posted by VargTimmen (Post 1534386)
I upgraded to the new Version (1.4.2) and it works well.
But, and this is, in my opinion, an important function:
Could you build in, that Admins and Supermods always can see the groupforumlink (and the forum of course) and keep their rights.

Why don't you just give them read permission?

Quote:

Originally Posted by abrecher (Post 1534438)
The "Visit the forum of this group." should be MUCH more noticeable.

There is a link and there is a second link with an icon. No, I don't want to pave the whole page with "visit" links. Feel free to edit your templates...

Mark.B 05-28-2008 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark.B (Post 1533204)
I *think* I'm getting the same thing.

The last post column is showing "never" on group.php for the bottom group in the list, even though its forum has had posts.

Also, is it possible to query the last poster details as well, so that the display is consistent with groups that DON'T have fourms, and still use the default messaging system?

Phalynx, if you get chance could you have a look at the above stuff?

Phalynx 05-28-2008 09:23 PM

As for the last posts - I cannot confirm that.

Showing last poster is very difficult as the link would lead to a group message. I had to rede all message templates to get this work.

abrecher 05-28-2008 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalynx (Post 1534457)
There is a link and there is a second link with an icon. No, I don't want to pave the whole page with "visit" links. Feel free to edit your templates...

I don't see the second link with an icon ? Which template would I edit ?

Mark.B 05-28-2008 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalynx (Post 1534478)
As for the last posts - I cannot confirm that.

Showing last poster is very difficult as the link would lead to a group message. I had to rede all message templates to get this work.

It certainly happens on mine, and I think another poster mentioned it a couple of pages back.

djilou 05-28-2008 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark.B (Post 1534497)
It certainly happens on mine, and I think another poster mentioned it a couple of pages back.

yes me too :D

Alfa1 05-29-2008 12:25 AM

Thanks for a great product!

VargTimmen 05-29-2008 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalynx (Post 1534457)
Why don't you just give them read permission?

Where can I change this option? I tried to set this via Forumpermissions, but it won't go anyway.

SpankMe 05-29-2008 06:33 AM

Still getting "Invalid Title Specified" when trying to edit SG using 1.4.2. Was this supossed to be fixed in this version?

Phalynx 05-29-2008 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VargTimmen (Post 1534780)
Where can I change this option? I tried to set this via Forumpermissions, but it won't go anyway.

Check usergroup permissions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpankMe (Post 1534786)
Still getting "Invalid Title Specified" when trying to edit SG using 1.4.2. Was this supossed to be fixed in this version?

Hmmm, I thought the error occurs because of missing permissions. Seems I have to take a closer look.

flOid 05-29-2008 08:57 AM

Is the "Users must join to view the content" option applied at all for private groups/forums, or am I missing something? Users of my board are complaining that despite of the setting, other users who are not member of the group can't view the forum link/content.

Phalynx 05-29-2008 09:11 AM

Once again: Check usergroup permissions and also if you enabled restriction mode.

flOid 05-29-2008 09:19 AM

Restriction mode is enabbled.

I don't see any option in usergroup permission which sets the permissions for private groups/forms with "Users must join to view the content" enabled. There are only general permissions for read/write access for public and private forums, but not for private forums that have "Users must join to view the content".

I'm quiet sure that this option isn't applied at all for moderated groups/forums.

Phalynx 05-29-2008 09:22 AM

Read = View

flOid 05-29-2008 09:29 AM

I'm aware of that.

But I just realized that I did put myself wrong: What I'm speaking about are private forums which have not "Users must join to view the content" enabled. So for example new members are moderated, but all groups can view the content of the forums.

Right now, this doesn't seem to be possible.

Phalynx 05-29-2008 09:46 AM

Usergroup permission is independent of "Users must join to view the content"

flOid 05-29-2008 09:50 AM

So what does that mean? The "Users must join to view the content" function is completely ignored for private groups/forums? It's not possible to make contents of moderated groups/forums available to other groups?

Please be finally clear on this!

Phalynx 05-29-2008 10:01 AM

As I already said, forums are using permissions that are set via usergroup. If you want to share private forums content, set it via usergroup manager.

flOid 05-29-2008 10:15 AM

Sigh. I only want to share private forum contents of groups that have "Users must join to view the content" disabled, but I don't want to make forum contents of private forums generally available for any specific usergroup.

I don't understand, why isn't the "Users must join to view the content" function being ignored for moderated/invite only forums? Why is it there at all, if it isn't applied? Does it only apply for pictures and group messages, but not for forums? Please be finally a bit more specific on this, and explain this with more than a one line reply!

All I want is a link for a group forum in the forum index and group home page for a moderated group with "Users must join to view the content" disabled, and the possibility to actually view forum contents for non-members of a moderated group.

Please let me know if that is possible at all, and how to do that.

If that is not posible, I think it would be a good idea to change that with the next update, as this is VERY confusing, especially for users.

Phalynx 05-29-2008 10:18 AM

"Users must join to view the content" does not come with my modification, it is included by Jelsoft. Please ask them about this as I'm also not sure why it is there.

flOid 05-29-2008 10:21 AM

Finally the answer that I was looking for from the beginning. Thank you very much.

Still, you should consider to include this option into your great mod and apply it for forum contents, it would make it almost perfect! And I guess I'm not the only one who is thinking that...

in any case you should explain that in the mod manual, as I already said, this is very confusing for both admins and users.

MrEyes 05-29-2008 12:34 PM

Well I have been running and fiddling with this mod for a few days now, and I can say with absolute certainty that my members love it. The social group members get their own "off topic domain" to play in, and those who have no interest in the social groups subject can no longer whinge about seeing threads they have no interest in.

Anyway, enough praise ;)

A couple of suggestions, feel free to ignore these:

1) I currently have set the "Minimum Members" option set to 10, which is a good amount for the size of the site. However the site is growing and as it grows I intend to increase this limit. It would be great if I good set a percentage of active users. This would effectively allow the mod to auto manage which from an admin point of view is useful.

2) My "social forum" structure is as follows:

- Category : Off Topic & Social Forums
- - Forum : Off Topic 1
- - Forum : Off Topic 2
- - Forum : Social Forums (closed to new threads)
- - - Forum : Social Group 1 Forum
- - - Forum : Social Group 2 Forum
- - - .....
- - - Forum : Social Group X Forum

This all works great, however if a user is in one of the "Social Group X Forum" areas the Forum Jump drop down is sort of broken. By broken I mean that normally the current forum is the selected item, however as the "Social Group X Forum" is too deep in the hierarchy so the jump menu defaults to the first item in the list (typically the User Control Panel). It would be great if the default could be set to the Parent forum id defined in configuration.

Its no great hassle, just as I said be nice for quick navigation.

Phalynx 05-29-2008 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrEyes (Post 1535055)
1) I currently have set the "Minimum Members" option set to 10, which is a good amount for the size of the site. However the site is growing and as it grows I intend to increase this limit. It would be great if I good set a percentage of active users. This would effectively allow the mod to auto manage which from an admin point of view is useful.

Uhm, would be difficult to get the percentage of active users in a specific forum. You can try to get this with a query.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrEyes (Post 1535055)
Its no great hassle, just as I said be nice for quick navigation.

showonforumjump is set to 0, that means social forums are never shown on forum jump menue. You can change this for existing forums via AdminCP.

lovevn 05-30-2008 11:38 AM

Hello
Can we have an option to choose any forum to set it as "SCG forum"?
Thanks

Alfa1 05-30-2008 12:41 PM

^I thought that was possible. How do I select an existing forum as the group forum?

Phalynx 05-30-2008 12:45 PM

Currently only via SQL query:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...84#post1487284

tei727 05-30-2008 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalynx (Post 1487284)
Count in weeks, not days. I have currently a lot to do.


You will have to put a query and assign the existing Forum ID to the Group.
Code:

UPDATE socialgroup SET forumid=YOURFORUMID WHERE groupid=YOURSOCIALGROUPID
Don't forget your DB-prefix.

when i added the DB prefix it didn't work. when i didn't it worked. the prefix was being added automatically for me...fyi

jilly 06-02-2008 10:28 PM

I agree with a previous poster on the need for supermods and admins to be able to see link and be able to read content of the private forums by default. Yes, I can go in and edit permissions individually, but whenever a staff memebr changes I'd have to remember to change their permissions, and also as the site grows bigger and the amount of groups grow bigger it gets more time consuming. It could at least be an option from the admincp for admins/supers view to be turned on or off with a switch. With mine, even though we allow private groups, I still need my admins and supers to be able to randomly monitor the groups for overall content appropriateness, or easy access in case abuse is reported.

Julie 06-03-2008 11:41 AM

If anyone has asked/said something about this before, I'm sorry... (Long thread to go through!)

About the
Quote:

If a group has a linked forum the grouplisting has the last post date and count of postings (with permission check).
option...

Would it be possible to make this optional? I would prefer the message count and last post to stick to the social group messages and postdates :)


Also noticed that, if I post a message in a group, it appears under the Activity in forum, and not under the Showing Social Group Messages. It doesn't add anything in the forum though. As soon as I hit refresh, it moves the posted message to the right place...

Thanks :)

Watson 06-04-2008 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jilly (Post 1539188)
I agree with a previous poster on the need for supermods and admins to be able to see link and be able to read content of the private forums by default. Yes, I can go in and edit permissions individually, but whenever a staff memebr changes I'd have to remember to change their permissions, and also as the site grows bigger and the amount of groups grow bigger it gets more time consuming. It could at least be an option from the admincp for admins/supers view to be turned on or off with a switch. With mine, even though we allow private groups, I still need my admins and supers to be able to randomly monitor the groups for overall content appropriateness, or easy access in case abuse is reported.

I Like this idea, because if the forum becomes very popular then I will just make it a public forum (unless its a private social group)

Rob Hephner 06-04-2008 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watson (Post 1540719)
I Like this idea, because if the forum becomes very popular then I will just make it a public forum (unless its a private social group)


You figured out a way to make a private social group?

Blackhat 06-06-2008 02:06 PM

How can I get the last x threads to appear and where ?

redlabour 06-06-2008 07:31 PM

Problem:

If the Founder of the Group is deleted the Group will be deleted by vBulletin. But the Forum and the link to the Group is still there.

Julie 06-07-2008 02:54 PM

I've also noticed that, if I manually connect a social group to an already existing forum (via PHPmyAdmin), the permissions changes so that to be able to post in that forum, you HAVE to be a member of the social group, even though it's a public group...

And this is something I want to be able to turn off... As I might create groups on existing forums, but I don't want the permissions to change to only members of the groups can post in the forums...

fly 06-07-2008 06:39 PM

Okay, so I read the first couple pages and the last couple. As an administrator, I cannot make a forum out of a group. The permissions are obviously correct for the admin group, the group has enough members. I turned off restricted mode as a test. No matter what I do, 'Create Forum' does not show up for the group.

Does it not work for groups that were created prior to installing the hack?

edit: n/m got it

sross 06-08-2008 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalynx (Post 1529386)
Check if your usergroup is allowed to create a forum.

This is really doing my head in. Where exactly is this setting? I see no option to create a forum, as far as i can see everything is set. I see no option in my usergroups for "can create forums" or some such setting. I see social group setting and all mine are set to yes. How do I set my usergroup to be allowed to create a forum then? Thanks! :up:

mokonzi 06-08-2008 07:46 AM

I'd think it'd be in the usergroup permissions

sross 06-08-2008 08:05 AM

yeah i don't see it there, what does it say exactly? thanks

mokonzi 06-08-2008 08:26 AM

As I've not yet got this installed (working on doing so far my test site soon) I'm guessing it will be in the:

Usergroups > Usergroup Manager > Choose Usergroup > Edit Usergroup

Most products set the permissions in that section somewhere, where on the Edit Usergroup page, I'm not sure.

Should be easy enough to find I'd think.

crkgb 06-09-2008 04:52 AM

Guys, I just updated to 1.4.2 version and see there's this Display Options module below social group forum. How do I change its defaults? There seems to be nothing about it in SocialForums options.


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