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cavyspirit 09-10-2006 11:51 PM

I see this has been requested several times, but I'm throwing my hat in the ring, so to speak.

I REALLY need the ability for violators to be AUTOMATICALLY put in a moderated (specified) user group, IF the original or other userid is NOT banned.

IF any of the other userids are BANNED, then I definitely want the violator automatically BANNED as well.

THAT would save me a TON of grief from a few flaming idiots who just won't give up.

Thanks so much for this great hack which works great on my 3.6 forum.

almqdad 09-11-2006 12:41 PM

Quote:

IF any of the other userids are BANNED, then I definitely want the violator automatically BANNED as well.
you can say that again

i realy need that

cavyspirit 09-11-2006 11:46 PM

Okay. I'm about ready to PAY someone to do this enhancement. How much would it take? Seriously.

Thomas P 09-12-2006 03:53 PM

Do you really have that much duplicate accounts?

ryansmith 09-12-2006 07:38 PM

I have vB 3.6. I uninstalled the product and re-uploaded it, then customized the settings in the AdminCP. None of the options work... it doesn't PM me, it doesn't create a post, nothing. Yes, I have filled out all the forums right. I've triple-checked them. I have my username as the reporting username, and also have my username as the one to notify. I have the right forum ID for posting... still nothing.

Maybe it conflicts with something else that I have installed.

Ryan

MPDev 09-12-2006 07:44 PM

And with it installed you are testing by logging into multiple accounts ensuring that you are not in the exception list?

cavyspirit 09-12-2006 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas P
Do you really have that much duplicate accounts?

I have one guy who continuously reregisters under new names--different IPs of course. The AE is tripped, but it takes us sometimes an hour or two before myself or one of my mods gets around to banning the twit.

It's become a game to him. This happens everyone once in a while. It's a total and complete waste of time dealing with them.

ryansmith 09-12-2006 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPDev
And with it installed you are testing by logging into multiple accounts ensuring that you are not in the exception list?

Yes, the fields for exempt usergroups and userids are blank. I have a test account that I log in with, then I log out and back into my admin account. No post is created and no IM is sent.

On my 3.5.4 board I immediately get a PM and a new post in a designated forum.

YabbaDabba 09-14-2006 03:50 PM

If a board has re-assigned its users to new userids, then this plugin tracks both the old ID and the new ID (assuming it was installed on the board with the old ID's)? In this case, a false positive can be generated because the original ID is no longer the same person as the new userID? And if so, is there a way to flush the old tracking cookies from the server, (...as opposed to telling all users to wipe their own cookies)? Which I guess means losing all tracking data up to that point, right?

YabbaDabba 09-14-2006 03:55 PM

Can I ask what precisely is stored in the cookie?

And how does the cookie change if another account is detected?

How does AED parse the cookie?

What is stored in variable {1}, the first account or the next detected account?

p.s., I think this is a GREAT plug-in. We have several problem accounts that are serial offenders.

MPDev 09-14-2006 04:32 PM

All that is stored in the cookies are userids; if your userids change, then you will have a problem with it tripping on all your users.

cOuNtErFiET 09-14-2006 10:28 PM

ok i had this on my board, my board went down had to redo the whole thing reinstalled this, and now everyone is tripping, but i redid the db also so what can i do to fix this need this working asap if you can help

thanks
CF

bashy 09-22-2006 08:49 AM

It will only go off if,

the persons are using the same computer,
The persons have not deleted thier cookies!,

Failing that thier not the same persons

Absolution 09-22-2006 03:18 PM

I've also tried this on 3.6 and it doesn't seem to be working. I logged on a completely different computer and created two accounts and successfully logged into both.

attroll 09-26-2006 03:41 AM

I installed this in my test site and longged in as two different users and nothing happened. It should have tripped and reported then to my PM, email and posted in the forum I specified and it does not do any of these.

I am running vB 3.6.1. Does this work with this version?

attroll 09-27-2006 03:30 AM

I think I have this working now.

FlyBoy73 09-30-2006 08:53 PM

Compatible with 3.6.1?

brvheart 10-03-2006 02:29 PM

3.6 version here

angelo 10-14-2006 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cOuNtErFiET
ok i had this on my board, my board went down had to redo the whole thing reinstalled this, and now everyone is tripping, but i redid the db also so what can i do to fix this need this working asap if you can help

thanks
CF

I'm having the same problem, some of my USERID's changed and now im getting a constant stream of "tripped accounts" when i only had a few each day before my board was reinstalled.

Is there a way i can reinstall this plugin but maybe change the name of the cookie that AE Detector sends out that way it won't read the old cookies on people's computers?

MPDev 10-19-2006 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelo
I'm having the same problem, some of my USERID's changed and now im getting a constant stream of "tripped accounts" when i only had a few each day before my board was reinstalled.

Is there a way i can reinstall this plugin but maybe change the name of the cookie that AE Detector sends out that way it won't read the old cookies on people's computers?

If your userids changed; then my only suggestion would be to modify the name of the cookie in the plugin code itself.

MPDev 10-19-2006 04:23 PM

If for some reason your userids change - weather you reinstalled, started over or whatever; the best way to avoid getting false reports based on the users old userid is to edit the name of the cookie used by the AE Detector:

In Plugin Manager under the login_verify_success section edit the AE Detector: Login checker plug-in code.

Change each instance of "IDstack" to some new name for the cookie to be used. There are four of them all in the first 21 or so lines of the code.

1. if(isset($_COOKIE['IDstack']))
2. $idstack = $_COOKIE['IDstack'];
3. setcookie("IDstack", $idstack, time()+10368000, "/");
4. setcookie("IDstack", $idstack, time()+10368000, "/");

angelo 10-19-2006 05:35 PM

thank you very much

cOuNtErFiET 11-07-2006 05:25 AM

thanks for that i think that solved the problem, also what is the template name for the pm that is sent or the post that is created i want to edit it...but i cannot seem to find the template and i have looked through them all must be missing it...lol

buzzel 11-11-2006 07:19 AM

Question: if there any two users detected, will the report send only once or every time when this users will do the login?

MPDev 01-17-2007 12:03 AM

Only once assuming they dont clear their cookies in between reports.

farooqaaa 02-10-2007 09:19 AM

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaanks!!!!

I'll catch spammers now. Lots of people are making double accounts in my forum.

I hope this will help me out.

thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks agaaaaaaaaain!

zagman76 02-25-2007 04:48 AM

Back in January - this stopped working for me. I have tried uninstalling and re-installing, but no luck. Is there something I can look at to fix it?

dano 02-26-2007 10:21 PM

I cant figure out how to change how far it will look back in posts. It isnt in the setting in the admincp. Any suggestions?

amcd 02-28-2007 10:41 AM

I have installed this, and changed the settings to both send a PM to a particular admin and also to post a thread in a particular forum.
But it doesnt seem to work. Do we need to do any other changes anywhere else?? Please advice.

amcd 02-28-2007 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dano (Post 1191473)
I cant figure out how to change how far it will look back in posts. It isnt in the setting in the admincp. Any suggestions?

this doesnt look into the posts to detect aliases... it only searches for people who LOGIN using same pc with two different ids.

MPDev 04-26-2007 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagman76 (Post 1190163)
Back in January - this stopped working for me. I have tried uninstalling and re-installing, but no luck. Is there something I can look at to fix it?

I've only found other mods could interfere with this mod; but I am not sure which ones. I did see that the "only post images/links after XXX posts" could interfere with it.

zagman76 05-27-2007 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPDev (Post 1235542)
I've only found other mods could interfere with this mod; but I am not sure which ones. I did see that the "only post images/links after XXX posts" could interfere with it.



yup - sorry for the long delay on this - but that's what caused it!

94supratt 05-28-2007 10:07 AM

I might finally have reason to upgrade from 2.x to 3.x. The "who this user might be hack" on 2.x was a life saver when detecting trolls. While this is not the same hack it will help.

kollam003 06-01-2007 04:28 PM

cool hack thanks

provedel 06-20-2007 04:07 PM

Works on 3.6.7?

Thanks

EdQ 06-20-2007 05:06 PM

Its working for me

bryanb 06-27-2007 08:20 AM

Great hack - it's already nailed a few members. A couple of spammers, and a couple of members who had multiple accounts.

Questions: Since I may have to confront some people that they are in violation of the rules (having more than one account, BSing me, etc.) how can I prove this? Where exactly is the evidence stored? If I'm going to bust someone on this, I have to be 110% sure.

Also, the AE detector indicated that one user has three accounts, but they've been posting with different IP addresses (same country though). Is this like one guy using different dial-up/DSL connections from the same computer?

NeitherSparky 06-28-2007 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryanb (Post 1277516)
Also, the AE detector indicated that one user has three accounts, but they've been posting with different IP addresses (same country though). Is this like one guy using different dial-up/DSL connections from the same computer?

That's what I've always assumed (like using an AOL account to connect, and a Comcast account to connect, but on the same computer/browser). If this is wrong I'd like to know too.

MPDev 06-28-2007 01:34 PM

Probably dialup or some AOL proxy account; cookies are computer specific and do not take IP addresses into account.

bryanb 07-01-2007 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPDev (Post 1278430)
Probably dialup or some AOL proxy account; cookies are computer specific and do not take IP addresses into account.

But if cookies are cleared when the user logs off and then logs on, how does this plugin detect the user having multiple accounts? This is what I need to know. Thanks!


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