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sv1cec 12-18-2004 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sabret00the
the reason that it was done that way was because, when it tried to extract the initial activation code from the database it would always come up empty, so the fix was making a new one, it was one of the earlier bug fixes by boofo.

I am not sure why this was happening, but I just created a test user and I got his activation code fine, from the useractivation table, the same as the one send to him in the e-mail.

But even if for some reason you find the activation code empty, what is the reason for creating a new id for users who have already one?

As far as I am concerned, I am removing the else part from that if.

Rgds

sabret00the 12-18-2004 02:33 PM

fair doo's however i don't get why you're saying it with such attitude? after all this is a free script you're using is it not?

sv1cec 12-18-2004 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabret00the
fair doo's however i don't get why you're saying it with such attitude? after all this is a free script you're using is it not?

Pardon me, I was not having any attitude, I was just trying to get your experience and expertise on that.

I asked why you are changing the activation code, and you replied to me that you create a new one, because sometimes you find empty ids. I understand that, but I am still puzzled why you are changing the existing codes, when that action prevents users from activating their accounts.

Don't you think that other members who have installed this hack should know that, when users start e-mailing them with questions why they can't activate?

If you don't have an explanation, fine, no problem, I'll do what I think is appropriate, but don't accuse me of an attitude, when all I am doing is trying to understand what you are doing, in this hack. I think I have that right, or am I wrong?

sabret00the 12-18-2004 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sv1cec
Pardon me, I was not having any attitude, I was just trying to get your experience and expertise on that.

I asked why you are changing the activation code, and you replied to me that you create a new one, because sometimes you find empty ids. I understand that, but I am still puzzled why you are changing the existing codes, when that action prevents users from activating their accounts.

Don't you think that other members who have installed this hack should know that, when users start e-mailing them with questions why they can't activate?

If you don't have an explanation, fine, no problem, I'll do what I think is appropriate, but don't accuse me of an attitude, when all I am doing is trying to understand what you are doing, in this hack. I think I have that right, or am I wrong?

ok to explain this, the original hack was ported from vb2 and set to run instead of activate.php in the crons directory, at that point when first released boofo ran it on his server and reported the bug that no id was being sent, i confirmed this via my server, under both tests there no. infact sorry afrer re-reading the thread it was bryan that reported it and it was fixed by Pscio https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....5&postcount=29 at that point everyone was happy and it was a great triumph for an open source project such as this one, don't get me wrong i understand why you'd not like the id reset but
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As far as I am concerned, I am removing the else part from that if.
the tone in your original post was offensive to me being someone that's ported this from vb2 and supported it to the best of my ability since then.

it's a saturday afternoon i have a hangover and and don't even have time to do such leisurly things as updating the hack yet i find time to do support i'm just stating that i didn't like your tone (attitude) i do beleive i have the right to do that or am i wrong?

sabret00the 12-18-2004 04:22 PM

[high]version 2.4 has been released[/high]

sv1cec 12-18-2004 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabret00the
ok to explain this, the original hack was ported from vb2 and set to run instead of activate.php in the crons directory, at that point when first released boofo ran it on his server and reported the bug that no id was being sent, i confirmed this via my server, under both tests there no. infact sorry afrer re-reading the thread it was bryan that reported it and it was fixed by Pscio https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....5&postcount=29 at that point everyone was happy and it was a great triumph for an open source project such as this one, don't get me wrong i understand why you'd not like the id reset but the tone in your original post was offensive to me being someone that's ported this from vb2 and supported it to the best of my ability since then.

it's a saturday afternoon i have a hangover and and don't even have time to do such leisurly things as updating the hack yet i find time to do support i'm just stating that i didn't like your tone (attitude) i do beleive i have the right to do that or am i wrong?

It seems that your hangover made you grumpy.

The quote you mention was not meant in any attitude.

I believe that the role of us here, is to help users of our hacks. So, I asked a question and I didn't get an answer, so the least I can do is to inform other users that there is a problem here. And I did it in a very polite way, by just saying what I am going to do. I didn't suggest others to do the same, I didn't emphasize the problem.

Instead of thanking me for locating a serious problem in your code, you accused me of having an attitude. Of course and you have the right to not like my tone (I assume you mean "my writings", because you can't hear my tone), but since you agreed to provide support from this hack, you'd better answer your user's questions, before criticizing their attitude.

Boofo 12-18-2004 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sv1cec
It seems that your hangover made you grumpy.

That was a cheap shot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sv1cec
but since you agreed to provide support from this hack, you'd better answer your user's questions, before criticizing their attitude.

Just because an author "agrees" to provide support for a hack, doesn't mean he/she has to drop everything and run to it the second there is a problem. Authors DO have private lives, too. They are sharing something with everyone, not getting paid or reimbursed in any way for it. telling someone they'd "better answer their your user's questions, before criticizing their attitude" isn't going to make the author want to run to help anyone. You get more flies with honey. Something to think about. ;)

sv1cec 12-18-2004 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo
Just because an author "agrees" to provide support for a hack, doesn't mean he/she has to drop everything and run to it the second there is a problem. Authors DO have private lives, too. They are sharing something with everyone, not getting paid or reimbursed in any way for it. telling someone they'd "better answer their your user's questions, before criticizing their attitude" isn't going to make the author want to run to help anyone. You get more flies with honey. Something to think about. ;)

I didn't expect you to leave your life and answer my question. I posted the initial question on 16. Dec 2004, 13:14, and I came back to check the answer one day and several hours later.

So stop making accusations for non-existing things. Nobody asked you to leave whatever you were doing and come to answer.

But when you decide to answer, you'd better answer the asked question. And you didn't, for whatever reasons, I do not care. And I tried, as politely as I could, to draw your attention to the fact that this was a serious problem. If you want, I can forward to you the e-mails I've received from people who couldn't activate, because of your code. And I didn't complain, I didn't accuse you of anything, I just tried to get your attention, and the attention of other people who are using your hack, by simply stating what I am going to do. And you got angry about it, and accused me of having an attitude.

And if honey gets you more flies, so what? What was I supposed to do? Be apologetic? For what? For your luck of answer? From what I saw, you issued a new version of your hack, to correct the problem I noticed. If I were not as persistent, I am sure the hack will continue like that for who knows how long (because coders have lives as you say, and don't have time to support their users), causing admins headaches from users who wouldn't be able to activate, one day after they received the activation e-mail.

In any case, I deny to continue this confrontation. Case closed for me.

sabret00the 12-18-2004 08:17 PM

none of it matters, lets just enjoy the hack and community :)

sv1cec 12-19-2004 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabret00the
none of it matters, lets just enjoy the hack and community :)

My point exactly. Have a great Sunday.

Goodday to you.


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