IPB,MyBB, heck even smf2 beats VB4.

the old vb3.6 - 3.8 however was the best, and i continue to use two 3.8 licenses

Maybe you forgot:
3. You are too dumb
or even
4. if I appreciate anything all other people have to follow my opinion because I know it all because I am god.

xenForo is looking like a strong competitor from the start.

What is going to allow me (and many other webmasters) to change over would be a modification community and designers that can style the sites. It seems like there are lots of 'mods' that are already part of the script itself, so it will obviously reduce the need for a large modification community, but there needs to be one nonetheless.

Also, one of the major pieces of xenForo is going to be the integration of Facebook and Twitter features. Those will set xenForo apart and will allow for the social networking integration to continue to expand and mix with the forum sites. :)

Great work so far! :up:

Thread cleaned up, please stay on topic.

hehe nice one you had me going than :D

Agreed. It still has a long way to go but overall the foundation is there and more importantly so is the communication. They stand on solid ground, and must be very happy. After all, a happy devs are productive devs.

May I ask you what are some of these features?

I listed them here : http://xenforo.com/community/threads...orums-com.261/

I love it - it's addictive. It's the most fun I've had posting on a board in years.

Oh I hope not, I'm so tired clutter.

Is it a vB killer? I don't know, but I do remember when MySpace was king and people laughed at the idea of Facebook being any real competition. I have no idea how or why that happened because I don't use either one, so I don't know if it serves as a cautionary tale. But it does show that popularity on the internet can be viciously fleeting. The end user makes you, and the end user breaks you.

The initial software development package for any project leaves something to be desired. If a project as far into development still has issues, with the volume of manpower and resources backing it, a project with far fewer resources will have difficulty keeping up with consumer demand, to say nothing of exceeding it. For all of its shortcomings, vBulletin is still by far the most complete forum resource. I wish Kier and Mike and all else involved all the best, however, they face an uphill climb to prove superior to existing technology. There are finite limits to what can be done with present coding and one has to question how close we have come to reaching those limits ... Kier is unquestionably brilliant but is just as limited by the technology as anyone else. I'll respectfully take a wait and see approach.