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Kintaro81 06-14-2009 07:15 AM

How can I reset the past tracking data?
can be a solution change che name of the cookie?

Ryloth 06-14-2009 01:23 PM

i am interested to see if it will work on 3.8.3 as well. i just installed a fresh forum and am hesitant to install w/o confirmation of this working.

Kintaro81 06-17-2009 12:17 PM

Have you read the description?
"Confirmed! This works perfectly on all vBulletin 3.6, 3.7, and 3.8 versions."

Ryloth 06-18-2009 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kintaro81 (Post 1831245)
Have you read the description?
"Confirmed! This works perfectly on all vBulletin 3.6, 3.7, and 3.8 versions."


Have you read the previous page? Or even the product xml? Or quotes from people w/ 3.8.3? Read before you type.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkusB (Post 1828390)
hmmm its only me?

This mod worked fine for me until i made the VB update to version: 3.8.3 now no messages appearing any more.

Yes i deleted the relevant groups in "Ignored Usergroups" and marked No in the "Ignore Child Accounts" by my test

Any Ideas on that before i try to make just a new fresh install of this very superb Mod :up:

Edit: after a reinstall of this Mod still no chance to get it running correct.

cheers, Mark


Kiros72 06-18-2009 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkusB (Post 1828390)
hmmm its only me?

This mod worked fine for me until i made the VB update to version: 3.8.3 now no messages appearing any more.

Yes i deleted the relevant groups in "Ignored Usergroups" and marked No in the "Ignore Child Accounts" by my test

Any Ideas on that before i try to make just a new fresh install of this very superb Mod :up:

Edit: after a reinstall of this Mod still no chance to get it running correct.

cheers, Mark

Are you absolutely certain that you didn't change any settings or install/uninstall any modifications immediately before or after you upgraded to vBulletin 3.8.3?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kintaro81 (Post 1829425)
How can I reset the past tracking data?
can be a solution change che name of the cookie?

Yes, if you would like a "clean slate" all you need to do is change the cookie name.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryloth (Post 1829499)
i am interested to see if it will work on 3.8.3 as well. i just installed a fresh forum and am hesitant to install w/o confirmation of this working.

This modification's plugins do not alter any database information, so it wouldn't do any harm to install it. I haven't known vBulletin to release any maintenance update that would affect thread-posting or PM-sending methods in such a way that the parameters or method names change. Seen as how I haven't had any other complaints that are related to this matter which I can recall, and over 500 people have it installed, I don't think that it's the upgrade to vBulletin 3.8.3 that did it. I could be wrong, but I'm more confident that it will work perfectly fine on vBulletin 3.8.3, just as it did on 3.8.2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kintaro81 (Post 1831245)
Have you read the description?
"Confirmed! This works perfectly on all vBulletin 3.6, 3.7, and 3.8 versions."

Thank you for noting that! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryloth (Post 1831869)
Have you read the previous page? Or even the product xml? Or quotes from people w/ 3.8.3? Read before you type.

Unless I'm mistaken, there was only one person that claimed of a clash with vBulletin 3.8.3, which was on the previous page. And I'm not sure how the product XML file has anything to do with the compatibility of a new, minor maintenance release.

I'd like to assume that at least 1/5 of the 500+ installations is running on up-to-date vBulletin software. So that would be 100 people (maybe more, maybe less) that are probably running this with vBulletin 3.8.3. If only a single person posted anything about it, I'm doubtful that other people are having problems. My doubt is based on the numbers... But again, I could be wrong.

I'll be testing this as soon as I can get a vBulletin 3.8.3 test installation installed, which might take several days because the license needs to be renewed. Until then, feel free to install it and then uninstall it if it doesn't work properly. Also, please be patient.

Thank you,
Ben

exportforce 06-19-2009 09:43 PM

Any updates about the implementation of banning previous created accounts and banning multiple logins ?

Kiros72 06-20-2009 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exportforce (Post 1832952)
Any updates about the implementation of banning previous created accounts and banning multiple logins ?

Not right now. I'm trying to get finances straightened up. The wake & funeral and other expenses cost about $8000, and my father didn't have life insurance, so I'm pretty much SOL at the moment and I don't have hours to dedicate to coding at the moment.

pigsy 06-24-2009 02:40 PM

I use Multiple Account Login Detector currently. I have two questions:

1. Am I right in saying this is improved over that because a) it checks for ip matches too; and b) it can catch users at registration and move to a usergroup or disallow registration.

2. If I install this it will have to set its own cookies; does that mean it will take some time to be as effective as the Multiple Account Login Detector - because it tracks by cookie, and when first installed users dont have this cookie installed.

I'm just deciding whether its worth upgrading - thanks!

synseal 06-25-2009 03:47 PM

Thanks for this, working perfectly on 3.8.2, installed :D

pigsy 06-25-2009 03:51 PM

Any reply to my question above - thanks! (apologies for the reminder!)

BlueNinjaGo 06-25-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigsy (Post 1836431)
I use Multiple Account Login Detector currently. I have two questions:

1. Am I right in saying this is improved over that because a) it checks for ip matches too; and b) it can catch users at registration and move to a usergroup or disallow registration.

2. If I install this it will have to set its own cookies; does that mean it will take some time to be as effective as the Multiple Account Login Detector - because it tracks by cookie, and when first installed users dont have this cookie installed.

I'm just deciding whether its worth upgrading - thanks!

This has been answered in the thread already. And if you check by IP address as well, it'll start working automatically.

Kiros72 06-25-2009 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigsy (Post 1836431)
I use Multiple Account Login Detector currently. I have two questions:

1. Am I right in saying this is improved over that because a) it checks for ip matches too; and b) it can catch users at registration and move to a usergroup or disallow registration.

2. If I install this it will have to set its own cookies; does that mean it will take some time to be as effective as the Multiple Account Login Detector - because it tracks by cookie, and when first installed users dont have this cookie installed.

I'm just deciding whether its worth upgrading - thanks!

1. Yes and yes. It also has faster function calls (like explode() instead of split()) and personally, I think I have improved upon the logic of the original modification from MPDev. Also, there are far more options like the one that I discuss in the second portion of this response.

2. Nope. I made this modification to be backwards compatible, meaning that if someone had MPDev's login detector, MADP will use the cookies (named IDstack) that have already been set by it. This happens by default. However, the administrators can change the cookie name to be something else and the effect of such would be a "clean slate" for everyone. But it will resume tracking each login and registration. Remember, this is completely optional. By default, it will use the IDstack cookies that MPDev's login detector uses.

Quote:

Originally Posted by synseal (Post 1837160)
Thanks for this, working perfectly on 3.8.2, installed :D

Glad to hear. Hope you enjoy it as much as everyone else is :)

pigsy 06-26-2009 06:08 PM

Fantastic! Thanks Kiros you just saved me reading over 372 previous posts :)

tnedator 06-28-2009 01:25 AM

By tracking "each login and registration", does this mean that on a clean install, each time an existing member logs in for the first time after this mod is installed, they will get a cookie with their login info, and then from that point forward if they were to create a second account, the mod would catch it?

dadoc 06-28-2009 09:21 AM

I have installed this and I am using 3.7.0

It did work and was able to open it within the CP

Now I have an error when I try to log in to my CP

This is the error

Warning: require_once([path]/madp/detection.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in [path]/includes/functions_login.php(185) : eval()'d code on line 3

Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/home/crimecas/public_html/forum/madp/detection.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/crimecas/public_html/forum/includes/functions_login.php(185) : eval()'d code on line 3

It is rather urgent that I can get access to my CP
I hope that anyone can help me.
even if you need access to my site I can give you tha?

Please Help

Regards
Ryan

Kiros72 06-28-2009 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigsy (Post 1837996)
Fantastic! Thanks Kiros you just saved me reading over 372 previous posts :)

Not a problem :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnedator (Post 1838635)
By tracking "each login and registration", does this mean that on a clean install, each time an existing member logs in for the first time after this mod is installed, they will get a cookie with their login info, and then from that point forward if they were to create a second account, the mod would catch it?

Exactly, yes. As long as they use the same browser and don't clear their cookies, it will catch the second account, and the third one, and so on. If you enable IP address detection, they may be caught if they still have the same IP address.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dadoc (Post 1838745)
I have installed this and I am using 3.7.0

It did work and was able to open it within the CP

Now I have an error when I try to log in to my CP

This is the error

Warning: require_once([path]/madp/detection.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in [path]/includes/functions_login.php(185) : eval()'d code on line 3

Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/home/crimecas/public_html/forum/madp/detection.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/crimecas/public_html/forum/includes/functions_login.php(185) : eval()'d code on line 3

It is rather urgent that I can get access to my CP
I hope that anyone can help me.
even if you need access to my site I can give you tha?

Please Help

Regards
Ryan

Once again, this is the classic symptom of missing files. Make sure you upload everything in the /upload/ folder to your forum root. That means, if your forum is at www.example.com/forums/, then you should have the files uploaded at www.example.com/forums/madp/ because the /madp/ folder is within the /upload/ folder. Read the ReadMe.txt please.

tnedator 06-28-2009 06:16 PM

Thanks Kiros for the nice mod. I was able to successfully trigger an alert PM with some test accounts. This is going to be a handy mod.

Kiros72 06-29-2009 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnedator (Post 1839022)
Thanks Kiros for the nice mod. I was able to successfully trigger an alert PM with some test accounts. This is going to be a handy mod.

Glad to hear that :)

Ryloth 06-29-2009 09:05 PM

I will confirm this does work on 3.8.3 just fine. I have been running it for a few days now and have caught a few people. Works well.

Kiros72 06-30-2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryloth (Post 1839829)
I will confirm this does work on 3.8.3 just fine. I have been running it for a few days now and have caught a few people. Works well.

Goodness, thank you! I knew there was something I was forgetting to do :o

That's a relief ^_^

Tomas J Anderso 07-02-2009 12:22 PM

Is this mod compatible with vBFirewall ? I'm getting alot of wrong detections and never used this plugin before and I can't afford to turn vBFirewall off to test.

Anyone running both of them ?

Kiros72 07-04-2009 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomas J Anderso (Post 1841383)
Is this mod compatible with vBFirewall ? I'm getting alot of wrong detections and never used this plugin before and I can't afford to turn vBFirewall off to test.

Anyone running both of them ?

I've never heard of vBFirewall, and I don't see why such a thing would be necessary. vBulletin is pretty secure as is. But as you're having problems, I can look into it if you PM me with login details.

pigsy 07-06-2009 05:32 PM

I have a question.. is there a way to set it up so that multiple users who have been banned previously are sent to a moderation usergroup, but those that haven't just get reported - no action is taken immediately. That's how I want to set it up - but I can't seem to find how!

NetRover 07-08-2009 12:17 AM

Hi there, I have installed this on 3.8.2 to replace the original login detection only version.

I have tried several test forums accounts and I have found the registration alerts are working via pm and forum posting.

I have not yet had any login alerts.

I've done all the settings.

I also disabled vboptimise rather than remove for the moment.

I think it must be fine with optimised turned off because the register alert is working.

Is that likely or do you think I should just remove it comletely and then try?

many thanks for reading my request

pigsy 07-08-2009 08:23 PM

Kiros, any update on my question? Thanks :)

Kiros72 07-09-2009 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigsy (Post 1843942)
I have a question.. is there a way to set it up so that multiple users who have been banned previously are sent to a moderation usergroup, but those that haven't just get reported - no action is taken immediately. That's how I want to set it up - but I can't seem to find how!

Sorry, I was out of town for a little while. I haven't set up anything to operate like that, but I'll see what I can do in future releases.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetRover (Post 1844872)
Hi there, I have installed this on 3.8.2 to replace the original login detection only version.

I have tried several test forums accounts and I have found the registration alerts are working via pm and forum posting.

I have not yet had any login alerts.

I've done all the settings.

I also disabled vboptimise rather than remove for the moment.

I think it must be fine with optimised turned off because the register alert is working.

Is that likely or do you think I should just remove it comletely and then try?

many thanks for reading my request

If you tried testing the registration yourself, and then tried logging in with the same accounts that you registered, it wouldn't alert you. The modification is set up to only report new cases. For instance, if someone created one account on one computer, and another account on another computer, the registration would not be caught because of the virtual location difference. Now if that same person logged into both accounts on the same computer, the login detection would catch it because it didn't recognize the multiple account earlier during registration.

Let me know if you would like me to help you out.

pigsy 07-09-2009 02:36 PM

Thanks Kiros - I know that we definitely want to ban multiple accounts (or put them in a moderation queue) who have previously been banned; and the rest can just be reported.

Mimirswell 07-11-2009 11:05 PM

Have you considered enhancing the IP check by having some basic proxy detection? The Proxy IP to Real IP conversion being a base example of how you might integrate it (ie detecting the http variables and passing the real IP to be checked).

Zagis 07-12-2009 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mimirswell (Post 1847218)
Have you considered enhancing the IP check by having some basic proxy detection? The Proxy IP to Real IP conversion being a base example of how you might integrate it (ie detecting the http variables and passing the real IP to be checked).

That would be great addition!

Alfa1 07-12-2009 06:43 PM

I already have proxy to IP. Am I correct that MADP and Proxy to Real IP work together?

trotskid 07-13-2009 06:20 AM

Hi. I also use vBOptimise but doesn?t work correctly the reports with function move to usergoup (thread nor PM) :(

I use v3.8.3

Kiros72 07-13-2009 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mimirswell (Post 1847218)
Have you considered enhancing the IP check by having some basic proxy detection? The Proxy IP to Real IP conversion being a base example of how you might integrate it (ie detecting the http variables and passing the real IP to be checked).

I believe this has already been suggested. I have not gotten to it yet, but it is on my list of additions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfa1 (Post 1847597)
I already have proxy to IP. Am I correct that MADP and Proxy to Real IP work together?

Sadly, I do not think that this works as intended. Unless the Proxy to Real IP modification sets the global IP address variable... I'll work to either make the two modifications compatible or to add a comparable internal functionality to my modification.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trotskid (Post 1847900)
Hi. I also use vBOptimise but doesn?t work correctly the reports with function move to usergoup (thread nor PM) :(

I use v3.8.3

The author of vBOptimise never responded to my inquiries. So it looks like he/she doesn't want to cooperate with me to find a solution. I apologize for this inconvenience, but you may have to chose between a slightly optimized vBulletin or the functionality of Multiple Account Detection & Prevention.

trotskid 07-13-2009 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiros72 (Post 1847978)
The author of vBOptimise never responded to my inquiries. So it looks like he/she doesn't want to cooperate with me to find a solution. I apologize for this inconvenience, but you may have to chose between a slightly optimized vBulletin or the functionality of Multiple Account Detection & Prevention.

I understand, thanks anyway :up:. I will use the function Disallow Multiple Registrants with no report.

Regards

Mimirswell 07-14-2009 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiros72 (Post 1847978)
I believe this has already been suggested. I have not gotten to it yet, but it is on my list of additions.

Great because while this hack is very well done, if it can be easily bypassed by proxies and a cookie clear, it's not robust enough.

Tree Guardian 07-14-2009 10:53 AM

3.8.3 works beautiful - Thank You

DeanLag 07-15-2009 05:44 PM

Quote:

Invalid SQL:

SELECT
post.*, post.username AS postusername, post.ipaddress AS ip, IF(post.visible = 2, 1, 0) AS isdeleted,
user.*, userfield.*, usertextfield.*,
icon.title as icontitle, icon.iconpath,
avatar.avatarpath, NOT ISNULL(customavatar.userid) AS hascustomavatar, customavatar.dateline AS avatardateline,customavatar.width AS avwidth,customavatar.height AS avheight,

editlog.userid AS edit_userid, editlog.username AS edit_username, editlog.dateline AS edit_dateline,
editlog.reason AS edit_reason, editlog.hashistory,
postparsed.pagetext_html, postparsed.hasimages,
sigparsed.signatureparsed, sigparsed.hasimages AS sighasimages,
sigpic.userid AS sigpic, sigpic.dateline AS sigpicdateline, sigpic.width AS sigpicwidth, sigpic.height AS sigpicheight,
IF(displaygroupid=0, user.usergroupid, displaygroupid) AS displaygroupid, infractiongroupid


FROM post AS post
LEFT JOIN user AS user ON(user.userid = post.userid)
LEFT JOIN userfield AS userfield ON(userfield.userid = user.userid)
LEFT JOIN usertextfield AS usertextfield ON(usertextfield.userid = user.userid)
LEFT JOIN icon AS icon ON(icon.iconid = post.iconid)
LEFT JOIN avatar AS avatar ON(avatar.avatarid = user.avatarid) LEFT JOIN customavatar AS customavatar ON(customavatar.userid = user.userid)

LEFT JOIN editlog AS editlog ON(editlog.postid = post.postid)
LEFT JOIN postparsed AS postparsed ON(postparsed.postid = post.postid AND postparsed.styleid = 12 AND postparsed.languageid = 1)
LEFT JOIN sigparsed AS sigparsed ON(sigparsed.userid = user.userid AND sigparsed.styleid = 12 AND sigparsed.languageid = 1)
LEFT JOIN sigpic AS sigpic ON(sigpic.userid = post.userid)

WHERE post.threadid = AND post.dateline > 1247663474 AND (post.visible = 1 OR post.postid = 47468)

ORDER BY dateline;

MySQL Error : You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'AND post.dateline > 1247663474 AND (post.visible = 1 OR post.postid = 47468)
' at line 27
Error Number : 1064
Why? :( I got this msg 5 times.

Edit: Just got it 40 times overnight. Is it when someone logs onto the forums? =o

pigsy 07-15-2009 06:49 PM

Would you consider supporting LSO cookies.

If you set an LSO cookie (they are set by flash) then a normal cache clear wont get rid of it, and they are persistent across sites.

Shouldn't have too much trouble playing off a small flash pixel in one corner which sets the cookie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Shared_Object

Chrisg20 07-18-2009 01:34 AM

thank you, installed

Kiros72 07-19-2009 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanLag (Post 1849384)
Why? :( I got this msg 5 times.

Edit: Just got it 40 times overnight. Is it when someone logs onto the forums? =o

Sorry, but I don't think that my modification is related to those errors. I see where the syntax is messed up, but without knowing where that query is coming from (the file, that is) then I'm not going to be able to help you out. =/

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigsy (Post 1849417)
Would you consider supporting LSO cookies.

If you set an LSO cookie (they are set by flash) then a normal cache clear wont get rid of it, and they are persistent across sites.

Shouldn't have too much trouble playing off a small flash pixel in one corner which sets the cookie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Shared_Object

Well, I'm not flash coder, and from the looks of it, that would require more code and files and it would just make things more complicated. So for now and probably for years to come, I'm not going to be messing with LSO cookies. Sorry =[

ItsikN 07-19-2009 07:01 AM

Hi,

I turned off the registration preventation option since at the moment I want the app only to to detect and report duplicates without preventation.

However, the app reported today the following "The new account has been moved to the Prevention Usergroup" and moved it into the "COPPA users awaiting..."

I'm using VB 3.8.3.

Any advice?

Thanks.


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