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LLent 06-08-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Christos Teriakis (Post 2426568)
As Paul M wrote, 6 pages are a lot for a discussion which seems to leads nowhere. DBT wrote many times that admin is who will decide if he wants to use the global copyright or not. Following the same logic I'll give admins the choice to decide if they'll use one of my mods or the copyright manager. It will be 100% their decision depending on their needs. But for sure my mods should halt to work if they detect in the site this mod installed.
For me this thread closed and the discussion ended.-


so just so i understand if i install dbt's copyright mod and i install one of yours you are going to input code so that yours dont work with it ...

is this correct ????

Christos Teriakis 06-08-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LLent (Post 2426624)
so just so i understand if i install dbt's copyright mod and i install one of yours you are going to input code so that yours dont work with it ...

is this correct ????

Exactly. But this is for new mods or new versions of the old mods. Bug fixes for old mods will continue working on the old style. And please don't say if it's good or not, and if you like it or not, or if you should not install or not. Simple because I don't care what you'll do. If just one wants to install my mods, is ok. If nobody wants to install them should be more than ok as I'll not waste my time supporting it.

DragonByte Tech 06-08-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Christos Teriakis (Post 2426631)
Exactly. But this is for new mods or new versions of the old mods. Bug fixes for old mods will continue working on the old style. And please don't say if it's good or not, and if you like it or not, or if you should not install or not. Simple because I don't care what you'll do. If just one wants to install my mods, is ok. If nobody wants to install them should be more than ok as I'll not waste my time supporting it.

Just a quick, semi-related question. You claimed before you were going to start making mods to compete with ours to drive us out of business. Did you change your mind on that for some reason?

I was kind of looking forward to that, to be honest. If it's your sense of "fair play" that's stopping you, please be assured that we are 100% ok with you doing it.

Iain

LLent 06-08-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christos Teriakis (Post 2426631)
Exactly. But this is for new mods or new versions of the old mods. Bug fixes for old mods will continue working on the old style. And please don't say if it's good or not, and if you like it or not, or if you should not install or not. Simple because I don't care what you'll do. If just one wants to install my mods, is ok. If nobody wants to install them should be more than ok as I'll not waste my time supporting it.


No i wont say weather this is good or not you are the one that can make that determination along with the member base .. i will say this i thought you were better then this and to put code in maliciously is just uncalled for ... from what i can see you have a few good mods but dont count on me putting them in cause of what you plan on doing i like a variety of mods and need them all to play nice with each other ..

really like Paul said he wishes all he had to worry about is copyrights in a forum footer ...that speaks volumes thanks for that Paul ...

Christos Teriakis 06-08-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2426635)
Just a quick, semi-related question. You claimed before you were going to start making mods to compete with ours to drive us out of business. Did you change your mind on that for some reason?

I was kind of looking forward to that, to be honest. If it's your sense of "fair play" that's stopping you, please be assured that we are 100% ok with you doing it.

Iain

Let's give also a reply to you Iain as I don't want you to feel that I'm ignoring you:
  1. When a party breaks the fair play, then the fair play ends for all.
  2. For me there are 3 levels of corresponding with people in life. Risking that maybe I'll not find the right words to explain it, these 3 levels are:
    1. Law rules
    2. Fair play
    3. Moral values (which includes previous 2 choices). This is the level that mostly counts for me and this is the way that I follown in all my life.
  3. At this moment I can't saying anything for sure. It's true that 2 choices came to my mind as a way to react:
    1. To release mods with features of your mods (but believe me totally different in coding) with the features that you count as PRO. None other feature. There is no need to waste my time to add features that anybody can has for free from your lite version.
    2. To "name PRO" the normal versions of my mods without the restriction of Copyright Manager. As you can see I also know marketing.
  4. But as footer note. My moral values does not allow me to do anything right now. This is what already replied to 3 users who contacted me asking for the release date of the PM Utilities.
  5. ....AND..... Even with this restriction that I'll add, I'll still feeling that I'm doing fair play. Do you know why? Because if a user choose to have just a line of copyright code, it gives a s##t for what I think and/or what I feel for this action. So, on the same way I'll send this s##t back to him.
I'll appreciate if this endless and meanless discussion ends here.

Thank you

--------------- Added 08 Jun 2013 at 18:20 ---------------

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Originally Posted by LLent (Post 2426641)
...malicious...

How do you dare to say something like this and offend me such a way?? What is malicious code? Malicious code is when you're trying to do something bad to the other side. What in common with what I wrote???????:
  1. First of all should be a big notice in the top of my mods saying that the mod is incompatible with Copyright Manager and links to the mod and to my main post here.
  2. If the user bypass this warning and tries to install it, the installation will goes smoothly, but when he will try to run the php file he will gets an errom message with a full explanation. That's all.
Please be more carefully on what are you writting. Thank you.

LLent 06-08-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christos Teriakis (Post 2426643)

--------------- Added 08 Jun 2013 at 18:20 ---------------



How do you dare to say something like this and offend me such a way?? What is malicious code? Malicious code is when you're trying to do something bad to the other side. What in common with what I wrote???????:
  1. First of all should be a big notice in the top of my mods saying that the mod is incompatible with Copyright Manager and links to the mod and to my main post here.
  2. If the user bypass this warning and tries to install it, the installation will goes smoothly, but when he will try to run the php file he will gets an errom message with a full explanation. That's all.
Please be more carefully on what are you writting. Thank you.

i think you better go back and re read

i said maliciously not malicious code

maliciously----Having the nature of or resulting from malice; spiteful:

i think this whole thread is pointless do what you want and db will do what they want just like every other coder out there we as the end user will choose what we want to install and life goes on

kh99 06-08-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LLent (Post 2426647)
i think this whole thread is pointless do what you want and db will do what they want just like every other coder out there we as the end user will choose what we want to install and life goes on


Sounds good to me. Closed.


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