where did you see any CMS dead ?!

i founded Postnuke 8 years ago and it is actually pretty well going, after a commercial turn of faith... (Adam, one of my co-worker, moved the cms to a new level here: http://zikula.org/ )...

if you talk about another vBulletin portal, you can see that vbAdvanced is pretty well alive, and Jelsoft is planning a new Content Manager for 4.0, which will lead any good coder to develop any range of portal, wrapper, cms of any kind...

vB.org, dying?!... nah... mutating... lol

nah not the actual CMS as a whole just some of the key parts died off like before VB i was a phpnuke junkie myself i was a theme designers with some of the best nuke theme designers out and i worked for php nuke platinum and Nuke-evolution, and since all the ripping started (its was pretty small in the community when i was there) but winthin the past say 4 years the ripping has grown like wildfire...now the designers and coder for the php nuke communities( at least the really good ones) have up and left...and honestlyi see vb going that way to.

I havent even been in the vb scene for more then 1 year and i do themes iv release about 4 or 5 free ones here...and im already being ripped and so have many of my buddie designers that have just came over here...makes me as a designer not even wana continue here...and i haven't even been here long at all...im about to say hell with it and already pack up n leave..

i have to disagree with your post as well.
Just cause u say its right does not mean its right.
I myself do not see this this board as a Privledge.Its a board that caters for the software that it sells and without this board,Jelsofts profits would certainly be down.

the goal obtained by Jelsoft is not what make this site a privilege or not, because the first goal of the site is to gater the software fans, and in second place is to gater the modifications released... then if someone else is making profits from it, that's good... i can tell that the real commercial-like coders here are making more profits than Jelsoft, because it's here they have clients from, not from anyother place... without these coders, the site would be dead... clients or not, jelsoft or not.

good point thats what im saying if the ripping and stuff keeps up coders will leave designers will leave and well as both u and i said this already it will be dead...

now the Questions is? Is there a solution? (their may be but according to Jelsoft it could takes years) but i don't think people wana wait years by the time jelsoft does something coders/designers will all be long gone..

i guess its just a lose lose situation

regardless of jelsofts role - i do not see access to this site as a Privledge.
If u feel privledge every time u log in then you maybe you need to get a life :)

Hands up all those who feel warm and rosey and Very Privledge when they vist vb.org ?

define: privilege;

for me, this is describing very well what is the privilege here... if you have a different definition, please teach me, because you just show nothing right now...

Vb will not die, or more specific vb.org won't. Coders, designers will leave and 10 will pop up in their place and evolve into advance coders who's abilities will get better and better thus contributing better and better content. The org is community driven which is a big factor why it's such a successful site to the point we see copycat sites pop up who will always try to be what vb.org is.

You may have seen it all before but in my opinion the org is different. There are motivated people who will continue to contribute to a site whether or not content is being stolen because often than not the source files are held by the authors not the stealing sites that enduces people to come here/register here to receive modifications of their graphics and styles and support for the scripts they choose to install.


Site's may become stagnated, but designers/coders will never halt in making their submissions. The site is free to an extent sure you still have to own a license but it's free in the way that after your purchase people post their 3rd party addons for free which makes the future of this site strong both for this site and more for jelsoft.

Without this site, jelsoft would not get as many customers as they do or atleast that's merely my opinion in making that statement.

Access to any forum is a privledge granted by the forum owners/administrators, and can be removed by them at any time. You have no automatic right of access.

Paul hits the nail on the head above.