Donate to Katrina victims?

[GoTTi]

why isnt there a donate to katrina victims link here???? there was 1 for the tsunami, whats goin on?

[nexialys]

maybe we can wait until something is really built for such donations via the RedCross or something else ?!

[Brad]

maybe we can wait until something is really built for such donations via the RedCross or something else ?!

Exactly, unlike the tsunami this hasn't happened yet afaik.

For now if you wish to send money you might want to go over the red cross's website and send a donation, I'm sure you can do so locally to.

www.redcross.org

Best wishes to any one down there and to you guys with family in that area.

[yoyoyoyo]

I have family in the middle of St. Bernard parish, which was devastated. The Red Cross (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A//www.redcross.org/donate/donate.html&ei=m2AWQ8_SOoWe-gHqpej-DQ), operation usa, (http://www.opusa.org/) Direct Relief (http://www.directrelief.org/sections/our_work/hurricane_katrina.html), and many others are all working to help the victims. I think that any way that you can help is needed/appreciated, and there is no time to wait.

You can donate directly to the New Orleans chapter of the America Red Cross by clicking HERE (https://redcrosssecure.org/arcno_org/?zone=donate&sid=&sid=)

America's Second Harvest (http://www.secondharvest.org/default2.asp) is another aid organization that is helping the victims of the hurricane, and they can use every penny you can spare right now.

I have created several small mods so people can easily add a banner to their forum to help hurricane victims. Please look in my sig for links to those Hurricane Banners, and please add the banner to your forum!

There is no time to wait! Every day that passes without the needed help brings those people closer to danger/death! If you never donated to anything like this before, now is the time for social action! The federal/local governement is doing what they can, but it will not be enough - aid organizations such as Red Cross and the rest are already on the ground helping people directly, and they can do more with your help.

MODS HERE AT VBULLETIN.ORG: PLEASE ADD A BANNER TO THE FORUM SO PEOPLE HERE CAN DONATE, ALSO!

[twoseven]

glad to see the mods here care more for the 3rd world than they do for one of their biggest puchasing bases(the US) Please get the banners up.

[nexialys]

hum, i don't see the point of insisting that much... can't you guys go directly to redcross.com and donate ?!

i think that even if no link is added anywhere, the entire America is aware of the situation and wants to help... no need to "advertise" the need.

here at Québec, we already sent 100 specialized people from the redcross to the locations that were the most in needs in New Orleans, and these people are specialised in these desasters, they helped when the Tsunami hit last year... this may not be sufficient, but imagine, we're not even touched by your situation in the USA, and we help... so imagine the ones you know around you.... everybody helps...

don't flame the vbulletin guys because there is no banner yet... thanks!

[yoyoyoyo]

hum, i don't see the point of insisting that much... can't you guys go directly to redcross.com and donate ?!

i think that even if no link is added anywhere, the entire America is aware of the situation and wants to help... no need to "advertise" the need.

here at Qu?bec, we already sent 100 people from the redcross to the locations that were the most in needs, and these people are specialised in these desasters, they helped when the Tsunami hit last year... this may not be sufficient, but imagine, we're not even touched by your situation in the USA, and we help... so imagine the ones you know around you.... everybody helps...

don't flame the vbulletin guys because there is no banner yet... thanks!I agree in that I don't think there is need for flaming, but there is need to "advertise" the fact! Look at the news! What is happening is terrible.

A banner was put up here for the Tsunami victims, and I feel it would be nice to see a banner to support the Hurricane victims as well.

[nexialys]

A banner was put up here for the Tsunami victims, and I feel it would be nice to see a banner to support the Hurricane victims as well.like Brad just said yesterday, they wait for something official to advertise a banner... i don't see why you continue to post about this...

if you say it would be nice, maybe it would be nice from you to wait for this, instead of starting to flood about the situation... you just post a new thread about the banner thing, i think it's flooding, and my input would be ... wait, advertise on your side, and let the guys here do their job... they do it well usually!

-- my 2? (CA but 2? anyway!)

[yoyoyoyo]

like Brad just said yesterday, they wait for something official to advertise a banner... i don't see why you continue to post about this...

if you say it would be nice, maybe it would be nice from you to wait for this, instead of starting to flood about the situation... you just post a new thread about the banner thing, i think it's flooding, and my input would be ... wait, advertise on your side, and let the guys here do their job... they do it well usually!

-- my 2? (CA but 2? anyway!)Wait for something official?!?! LOOK AT THE NEWS! THEY ARE SENDING SOS MESSAGES! THEY NEED MONEY/HELP NOW!!!

I am sorry if you think it is "flooding" (an unfortunate and BAD choice of words on your part, I think), however the lack of any action here has certainly surprised me. How long does it take to decide to put up a banner, and then do it?

[Brad]

glad to see the mods here care more for the 3rd world than they do for one of their biggest puchasing bases(the US) Please get the banners up.

This was uncalled for, not because you attempted to insult the staff but you come off like the people affected by the tsunami are worth less than the ones feeling the aftermath of Katrina, please don't let it happen again.

Lets be honest here, anyone not living under a rock knows what is going on in New Orleans and many places along the coast in that area. Many countries have pleaded their support and a great number of people are sending in donations already.

This is not to say that there won't be a banner. I came real close to adding one myself yesterday before this thread was posted. But it's not my place to change something like that without consulting my fellow staff members first, so I opened a thread in our staff forum instead, and when we figure out exactly what we will put up it will be added.

This is not something that will go away this week, it will be an on-going thing for many months and everyone is going to feel it. Gas is already going up and that means prices on all goods will go up soon, rough times are ahead. I encourage you all to not only do what you can to help the people in the new orleans area but also your neighbros and family who will also be feeling the aftermath of this storm for many months (or maybe years) to come.

[yoyoyoyo]

Thanks for the carification Brad. I must admit that I wear my emotions/feelings on my sleeve, since my family was directly affected by the Hurricane. I trust a banner will appear, however I feel that the need to "wait for something official" as suggested is just wrong, since as you said the need is clear.

[Brad]

Thanks for the carification Brad. I must admit that I wear my emotions/feelings on my sleeve, since my family was directly affected by the Hurricane. I trust a banner will appear, however I feel that the need to "wait for something official" as suggested is just wrong, since as you said the need is clear.

I should have explained myself better in my last post. I simply did not want to rush into something talking about it with the staff. :) I also didn't mean that we are waiting on something 'offical' it was only at the time there was no place I could find dedcated to the hurricane victims, thats why I just dropped a link to the red cross (as you said they have a good track record of using donations for what they're intended for).

Forgive me, time has been short lately and I am on edge with school and everything going up in price (sales tax in my state wen't from .07 to .20 yesterday and all the local gas stations are hiking prices out of pure greed).

Best wishes to your family.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Wait for something official?!?! LOOK AT THE NEWS! THEY ARE SENDING SOS MESSAGES! THEY NEED MONEY/HELP NOW!!!
Don't take this negative, but i would like to give a comment on this. Don't think i am trying to ignore how serious this situation is, and this is not a personal remark to you.

Yes, there are a lot of people needing help out there, and yes they will need money also to get help. But.....i don't think it is a question of only money at this time, there should also be a trustworthy organisation that could do something with that money NOW (if that is the motivation for your rush). from what i have seen i don't believe that any available help is not given because of a lack of money, but more due to many other reasons. This would take away the motivation for your 'NOW' call.

I am sure that once things get organized and help CAN be given, the official Aid organisations will be providing an official donation programm, and i have no doubt that there will be given attention to it here.


PS Let's not forget about all the other big and small disasters happening all over the world every day.

[Tony G]

I don't want to sound rude, but the media are all over this. Nobody who comes here wouldn't know about the Hurricane, what happened, and that you can donate. We all want to help, but labelling the staff as cruel for not adopting this idea immediately isn't right.

[yoyoyoyo]

Don't take this negative, but i would like to give a comment on this. Don't think i am trying to ignore how serious this situation is, and this is not a personal remark to you.

Yes, there are a lot of people needing help out there, and yes they will need money also to get help. But.....i don't think it is a question of only money at this time, there should also be a trustworthy organisation that could do something with that money NOW (if that is the motivation for your rush). from what i have seen i don't believe that any available help is not given because of a lack of money, but more due to many other reasons. This would take away the motivation for your 'NOW' call.

I am sure that once things get organized and help CAN be given, the official Aid organisations will be providing an official donation programm, and i have no doubt that there will be given attention to it here.

The Red Cross is on the ground at this very moment giving aid to those in need. All of that costs money - that is a no-brainer. I really don't see what the question is.

You are correct- there are many other needy people all over the world- and most of them are served in some way by the Red Cross. I trust that the Red Cross will put all donations where they are needed most.

This is a major disaster, and in the end thousands of people will die as a result. The need is CLEAR, and the Red Cross is very trustworthy!

Each year, the American Red Cross responds immediately to more than 70,000 disasters, including house or apartment fires (the majority of disaster responses), hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, tornadoes, hazardous materials spills, transportation accidents, explosions, and other natural and man-made disasters. Their Blood & Tissue services they provide save countless lives each year. Half the nation's blood supply--six million pints annually--is collected by more than 190,000 Red Cross volunteers. Every year, the Red Cross is there for hurricane, earthquake, and other disaster victims--including 150 families forced from their homes by fire every day. 175,000 volunteers worked to prevent, prepare for and respond to nearly 64,000 disaster incidents last year. Over 15 million Americans turn to the Red Cross to learn first aid, CPR, swimming, and other health and safety skills each year. Last year, more than 230,000 people volunteered to teach those courses. They provide support to the Military, and their families as well as provide emergency communications that link them with their families back home, access to financial assistance, counseling and assistance to veterans. The American Red Cross, working with the International Red Cross, helps vulnerable people around the world to prevent, prepare for, and respond to disasters, complex humanitarian emergencies, and life-threatening health conditions.

Do you consider that "trustworthy"?

I don't want to sound rude, but the media are all over this. Nobody who comes here wouldn't know about the Hurricane, what happened, and that you can donate. We all want to help, but labelling the staff as cruel for not adopting this idea immediately isn't right.
I agree that the "cruel" label was overboard (and it was not mine), but part of the frustration is that not enough is being done- just watch the news. So, to sit back and see nothing being done about it here, and elsewhere adds to the frustration. To say "Everyone knows about it" is a real "let them eat cake" kind of attitude, because by that logic nobody needed to have a banner here for the tsunami, either, but I bet more than one person donated by clicking on that banner.

[sabret00the]

in my opinion and i'm only passing through quickly as i'm not back into the swing of things since my burthday ;)

but none of these things have any place on this site in my opinion.

[yoyoyoyo]

in my opinion and i'm only passing through quickly as i'm not back into the swing of things since my burthday ;)

but none of these things have any place on this site in my opinion.
In that helping the hurricane victims do not have anything directly applicable to vbulletin I will agree with you, but there is more to it than that - there is a social responsibilty to show support in areas that are afflicted like this. I think that you would feel differently if London were flooded..

Happy B-Day sabret00the - I hope you don't have too many new entries for your confessional as a result of your party ;)

[Logikos]

I think it would help alittle if there was some sort of banner, not that Jelsoft doesn't care, but every penny helps.

[Erwin]

A global announcement has been made which shows up in all forums here.

[nexialys]

A global announcement has been made which shows up in all forums here.i suppose we have to be global admins to see that announcement ?!.. :)

[Andrew111888]

I would like to point out that the only thing the Tsunami and the Hurricane have in common is water.

[Brad]

i suppose we have to be global admins to see that announcement ?!.. :)

Date was set incorrectly, I have fixed it.

[yoyoyoyo]

I would like to point out that the only thing the Tsunami and the Hurricane have in common is water.
that and the death and destruction...

I think you will find that when all is said and done that TENS of thousands of people will have died as a result of the hurricane...

A global announcement has been made which shows up in all forums here.
thanks erwin

[Andrew111888]

that and the death and destruction...

I think you will find that when all is said and done that TENS of thousands of people will have died as a result of the hurricane...


thanks erwin

The hurricane issues in New Orleans are a tragedy, of course. But hundreds of thousands of people did not die in it, and entire countries weren't simply obliterated and wiped off the map.

I'm all for donating to worthy causes, I'm simply saying don't compare two different events that are hardly comparable.

[FASherman]

I would like to point out that the only thing the Tsunami and the Hurricane have in common is water.
*** Edit (MarcoH64) ***

They certainly have death in common. I'd say the stories of flood waters separating families and folks still not knowing whether some live or die are common. The need for assistance in common. The lack of drinking water is certainly common. Workers too busy finding the living to even deal with the dead yet, that sounds sadly familiar.

Maybe you should just keep your anti-Amerrican attitude to yourself. If you don't feel the basic human compassion the leads to a desire to help, fine. But don't fault the humanity in others that you so clearly lack.

[nexialys]

And I'd like to point out that you're a callous idiot.Ok, i think this thread is going really OT, so please someone, close it!!

[Paul M]

<snip>This sort of attitude will just stop people wanting to donate. No need for it - grow up.

[FASherman]

This sort of attitude will just stop people wanting to donate. No need for it - grow up.
Its a good thing Americans didn't have your attitude 70 years ago, huh?

Some thing are the right thing to do just because they're the right thing to do. If you need reminding of that fact, it speaks more about you than the person reminding you.

Personally, I don't care if the rest of the world lifts a finger or not. We're blessed enough that we can cover ourselves if we have to. It just might mean we don't have the money to support 60% of the UN's budget or have any foreign aid for the rest of the world.

Its a strange world when America's closest allies have become Australia and Poland, and not those we kept same from communism for a generation and a half.

[Paul M]

Its a good thing Americans didn't have your attitude 70 years ago, huh? Erm, okay ...... 1935 ... whatever ....

I think this is one of those occasions when nexialys is right - this is going way off topic and should be closed.

[nexialys]

I think this is one of those occasions when nexialys is right...The other times, i'm wrong... damn, i knew i had something going on... lol :speechless:

[Marco van Herwaarden]

And this thread has gone far enough. Please feel free to start a new thread on the original topic if wanted.

[Erwin]

Just so people know, they can donate through Paypal's official site here:

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/cps/general/PayPalKatrinaReliefEffort-outside

I've added this link to the global announcement too.