vBulletin 3.5 RC1 Released

[Dean C]

For more information see the announcement at vB.com:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148275

Enjoy! :D

[Dream]

what are those new plugin stuff? im upgrading now

[Andreas]

It's now possible to create XMLs that contain Plugins, Phrases, Settings and Templates - as well as running Install/Uninstall Code (for Queries, etc.)
Also a Product can be disabled/uninstalled at once, so you don't have to deactivate/delete every single Plugin.

Furthermore, there are Hooks in certain ACP areas now, which will cut down the need for File Edits :)

[Logikos]

See Jelsoft really does love the hacking community! :p

[Boofo]

Do we need to upgrade our 3.5 RC1 with this then? If so, just replace the files or run an upgrade script, too?

[Dream]

It's now possible to create XMLs that contain Plugins, Phrases, Settings and Templates - as well as running Install/Uninstall Code (for Queries, etc.)
Also a Product can be disabled/uninstalled at once, so you don't have to deactivate/delete every single Plugin.

Furthermore, there are Hooks in certain ACP areas now, which will cut down the need for File Edits :)

sounds like my "custom template mod" became useless

not complaining, I didnt think they would do this :), sounds great

[Boofo]

sounds like my "custom template mod" became useless

not complaining, I didnt think they would do this :), sounds great

You're gonna love the plug-in system a lot better. ;)

[Dream]

You're gonna love the plug-in system a lot better. ;)

im wondering how you choose the phrases to export tho

[D|ver]

It's now possible to create XMLs that contain Plugins, Phrases, Settings and Templates - as well as running Install/Uninstall Code (for Queries, etc.)
Also a Product can be disabled/uninstalled at once, so you don't have to deactivate/delete every single Plugin.

Furthermore, there are Hooks in certain ACP areas now, which will cut down the need for File Edits :)

sounds great :)
but will the major hacks support the plugin system?
are there really no file edits necessary any more?

[Paul M]

For anyone interested, these hooks were added to RC1 ;

forumadmin_add_default
forumadmin_edit_form
forumadmin_update_save
forumdisplay_query
bbcode_create
admin_global
admin_index_main
admin_index_navigation
admin_options_processing
admin_usergroup_edit
admin_usergroup_save
admin_permissions
can_administer
template_groups
mod_global
mod_index_main
mod_index_navigation
login_verify_failure_username
login_verify_failure_password
showthread_query
threadfpdata_doset
useradmin_edit_start
useradmin_edit_column1
useradmin_edit_column2
useradmin_update_save
userdata_doset
and this was removed ;

login_verify_failure

[Boofo]

im wondering how you choose the phrases to export tho

As Kirby explained to me:

Enable Debug Mode, go to ACP / Plugin System / Manage Product and create a new Protuct.
Then when you create Phrases, Templates, etc. make sure you select this Product.
When you are finished, go to ACP / Plugin System 7 Manage Product and select Export from the Dropdown.

This will create an XML with all the Plugins, Phrases, etc. used by your Hack.
The User can then just import this Product and everything will be installed.

Hope this helps. ;)

[amykhar]

Awesome :) This is going to make my life so much easier.

Amy

[Boofo]

sounds great :)
but will the major hacks support the plugin system?
are there really no file edits necessary any more?

I don't think file edits will completely go away right away. As the plug-in system grows and gets refined, there will be less and less need for file edits on most hacks. It will take some time, I'm sure, but think of the ride getting there! ;)

[Andreas]

sounds like my "custom template mod" became useless

APM got (mostly) useless too ;)

im wondering how you choose the phrases to export tho
This might help: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=92953

sounds great :)
but will the major hacks support the plugin system?
are there really no file edits necessary any more?
I think most actively supported Hacks will convert to Plugins as far as possible.
Although the Plugin System drastically cuts down the need for File Edits, there will always be things that can't be done with Plugins.

[Dream]

Hope this helps. ;)

cool, how I turn debug/dev mode on again? I add something to the config.php right

[Zachery]

cool, how I turn debug/dev mode on again? I add something to the config.php right

$config['Misc']['Debug'] = 1;

[Dream]

$config['Misc']['Debug'] = 1;

anywhere? can it be $config['Misc']['Debug'] = true;? :P

edit: seems to be

[Andreas]

$config['Misc']['Debug'] = 1;
Zach, I think it's case-sensitive as this doesn't work for me - $config['Misc']['debug'] = 1; does.

[Erwin]

How very cool. :) The plugin installer is essentially a "hack" installer built-in.

[Boofo]

Kind of blows the HTL away, doesn't it? ;)

[Brad]

RC1 is great, looking forward to the gold release. :)

[Boofo]

How do we upgrade to this RC1 from the RC1 we have now?

[TruthElixirX]

What other RC1? This is the first RC1...

[deathemperor]

What other RC1? This is the first RC1...

you can read the announcement in vb.com

[TruthElixirX]

Yeah..There is an announcement fro the relese of RC1. I read it. Thi is the first RC1 for vbulletin 3.5 that I know of. Hence why I was asking why he woul upgrade from the 'other' RC1 because I can't find an annou cement reardingf a 2nd RC1.

[deathemperor]

I think he was aiming for the RC1 of vb 3.0

[Ron1n]

My thoughts on the new system:

After making my OWN installer sytem which parses files and executes queries, template changes, code modifications, and more.... it has become obsolete before the release. I was waiting to release the new vbdownloads until I finished the hackinstaller program, but I dont think thats needed anymore. I will quickly port vbdownloads to work with the vbulletin.com installer and then release it.

This really makes me angry that all my time was wasted, but I guess its a good thing that the installer will be included automatically in all vbulletin releases from 3.5 on.

Yup... its a good thing but jesus - if only I knew they would be releasing it so quickly I wouldnt have wasted my time.

[Paul M]

I think Staff members got a preview version of RC1 .... so a few bug fixes may be missing.

[Link14716]

I think Staff members got a preview version of RC1 .... so a few bug fixes may be missing.

Yes. We found that out before Beta 1 and I went into a +++++ing rage. :)

Still no fetch_musername hook? :( Time to start campaigning for one in RC2 then. :)

[amykhar]

Rage is the wrong emotion ;). Yes, I am jealous that they get the new toys first. BUT, because they had it a bit early, when WE got it, there were tutorials ready for us on how to use the new features. I'd say that was worth them getting a sneak preview.

Amy

[Link14716]

Floris was ready to kickban me out of #vBfans a few times. ;)

I need to stop being lazy and get things done now that I can play with it, though. :)

[Wayne Luke]

I think Staff members got a preview version of RC1 .... so a few bug fixes may be missing.

Yes, this is correct. It was critical to our testing process and allowed a shorter release time. We did something similar with the release of vBulletin 3 when we had a limited beta release before the public release. This is standard operating procedure with most software companies. We didn't need to open the limited beta period up to customer application this time because we have enough staff and volunteers at this site to help with that initial bug-testing period.
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I am sorry if this policy "enrages" some of you but I don't see the practice changing in the foreseeable future as it allows us to build a better product.

[TruthElixirX]

I don't see how its a bad thing. I assumed all companies did this withthier products. Or the vast majority.

[Paul M]

I am sorry if this "enrages" some of you but I don't see the practice changing in the foreseeable future as it allows us to build a better product.huh ? - I take it this was not directed at me, even though you have quoted me, as I'm not aware of ever commenting on the this :confused:

[Link14716]

I am sorry if this "enrages" some of you but I don't see the practice changing in the foreseeable future as it allows us to build a better product.
I doesn't. My comment was that it did because I was throwing a hissy fit for 3.5. I'm blaming Zachery for that, it always works. :p

[Wayne Luke]

huh ? - I take it this was not directed at me, even though you have quoted me, as I'm not aware of ever commenting on the this :confused:

I have edited the post in an attempt to further separate the two paragraphs. "Some of you" is commonly thought to be a plural invective within the context of that sentence. This means it is directed at multiple people but no one in general while decrying the supposed "rage". I didn't believe people were literally angry about this, which is why enrage is in quotes.

[bigcurt]

^^Even Wayne made his avatar 80x80 :-D.

~Curt

[rinkrat]

I am running 3.05 and my mysql database is bloated with extra tables from various mods I installed. I'd like to strip off all of the extra BS and upgrade to 3.5RC1 yet still retain the basic settings for all of my users stock VB features?

Thanks in advance for any help!

[Marco van Herwaarden]

The easiest way to clean your board from any Hack information is to use ImpEx to import your current board into a fresh database. Please read the stickied posts in the Import System forum at vb.com before using it, and i suggest you do some testruns first.

[Boofo]

I apologize to everyone for blirting that out. I thought everyone already knew, my mistake. Again, sorry, and it won't happen again. ;)

(NOTE TO SELF: Boofo must remember to think before speaking.)

[Paul M]

I apologize to everyone for blirting that out. I thought everyone already knew, my mistake. Again, sorry, and it won't happen again. ;)

(NOTE TO SELF: Boofo must remember to think before speaking.)One of the developers (Scott ?) mentioned it on the main forums the other day as well - so it's not really a big secret. :)

[Erwin]

In that case, I might as well let all the secrets out.

Steve Machol is actually a chatbot.

Xenon is actually 12-years old.

hellsatan is not really satan.

[Brad]

and pepsi has more flavor then coke :p

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Steve Machol is actually a chatbot.I thought we agreed on not making that public.
Xenon is actually 12-years old.All the time forgetting he just had birthday.
hellsatan is not really satan.
Always thought it was the other way round. He really is Satan, just not living in hell anymore.

[rinkrat]

The easiest way to clean your board from any Hack information is to use ImpEx to import your current board into a fresh database. Please read the stickied posts in the Import System forum at vb.com before using it, and i suggest you do some testruns first.


Gotcha, thanks for the 411.

[Boofo]

In that case, I might as well let all the secrets out.





Steve Machol is actually a chatbot.

Xenon is actually 12-years old.

hellsatan is not really satan.

The Steve secret I didn't know about. hmmmmm

The Xenon one, I thought he was actually younger. Check out some of his posts (he is a he, right?) ;)

Satan, well, there are more secrets there than anyone really knows. And good ones, too!

[Wordplay]

question
-i'm running vb 3.0.3 with allkinds of hacks if i were to upgrade to 3.5 rc1, and install the ushop and ucash stystem.
would i have to reinstall it if later rc2 and even later rc3 comes out? or would i be able to upgrade without having to reinstall most of the hacks? i know you can probably not be too certain about that... but what do you assume?

[Tradjick]

IMHO ushop doesn´t exist for 3.5. yet. And as for ucash, i would suggest not to upgrade if it´s not on a testboard.

[Vizionz]

do you think it will be major change from rc1 to the final ?

[Marco van Herwaarden]

I hope so :D