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SaN-DeeP
10-15-2004, 09:27 AM
I am regular on vb.com and vb.org, but dont like to visit vbt.com coz it loads very very slow :(
I am on dial-up 56K only

PLease i request the authors of this site, to either make the site load fast (cut off huge graphics)
OR
atleast put some lite style in place.

I also request the admin to change my username from san-deep to SaN-DeeP

Regards,
Sandy...

Tony G
10-15-2004, 10:41 AM
When I was on 56k, the site loaded at a decent speed for me. And as vB.com, vB.org and vBT.com are all hosted on the same server, one cannot be slow and the other 2 fast. Heck, vB.org's style is probably more image orientated then ours.

Brad
10-15-2004, 10:48 AM
I am on 56k and the site loads fine for me, vBulletin.org's dark blue is slower acully.

We are trying to keep this place in its current state as jerry is testing the import process and I don't want to break anything for him. Your current acount here will be associated with your vB.org acount, and all posts etc. will use your vB.org name after the merge.

SaN-DeeP
10-15-2004, 10:57 AM
thats fine Brat.. I hope if our existing PMs and Thread subscriptions wont have problems after import :)

I use Greenish style on vb.org and it loads very very fast compared to this vbt.com style

Regards,

Brad
10-15-2004, 11:08 AM
thats fine Brat.. I hope if our existing PMs and Thread subscriptions wont have problems after import :)

I use Greenish style on vb.org and it loads very very fast compared to this vbt.com style

Regards,
O don't get me wrong I understand how bad 56k can be with a style like we have here. Espesscally when it comes to loading it without a local cache.

I was planning on adding lighter styles here, but as we are merging with vBulletin.org I don't think it would be worth the time to do it here as vB.org already has lighter styles anyway :)

Tony G
10-15-2004, 12:41 PM
Without a cache, it would be terrible, that's for sure.

Xenon
10-15-2004, 12:45 PM
You also have to see, that especially Plain Green of vb.org is exactly made for the purpose to be very fast.

I spent hours on optimizing it, and reduce every unnessecary bit of code.

So just look forward to our merge ;)

Lionel
11-08-2004, 03:11 AM
He is right. I am on DSL and sometimes T-1 and this site is very slow to open. Besides there is a javascript error on every showthread page. Line 57 char 24 is null or not an object

I have like a sensation that vb.com and vb.org are constantly down because they are being brought down by vbtemplates.

Tony G
11-08-2004, 08:47 AM
I have like a sensation that vb.com and vb.org are constantly down because they are being brought down by vbtemplates.


That is wrong. Not one site is to blame for any downtime that may occur on the server. It's the server is general. Besides that, we do not know what's going on with the server or why its down or slow when it is. It's pure speculation.

Zachery
11-08-2004, 01:49 PM
vBT is less resource intensive than either vB.com/org as they both have users online in the 100's if not more compared to our 50 at peaks.

vBT's current design makes abit too much use of nested tables which will slow IE based browsers down, If brad can give me the style i would like to make improvements to my original port of it :)

Tony G
11-09-2004, 03:03 AM
Zachery has a point, especially with loading postbit pages, the IE browser doesn't render them as fast as firefox or such, which is what Brad would probably use to test predomenently.

AlienSector
11-09-2004, 05:09 AM
The largest part of the loading issue, at least from the main page, is the animated new post icons. If you would replace the animated icons with still icons you would probably notice a drop in the load time for the skin.

Tony G
11-09-2004, 11:00 AM
Those *shouldn't* take a long time to load though, they are not large images. I think it comes back to what Zachery said.

AlienSector
11-09-2004, 01:20 PM
It doesn't for most cable/DSL users, though in comparison to the still images, there is a 30kb gain for that one image (animated = 30 kb while non-animated = .43 k). I am not saying that is the sole cause, but it would lighten some of the load for a few users on the main page.

Firefox does play a big part as it most certainly does render the images quicker that internet explorer, though shaving down the images plays another role :).

Lionel
11-09-2004, 07:58 PM
well, I am sorry, but I am on a T-1 most of the time and this site is very slow, as if caught in a db loop. The line 57 char 24 that pops up on every showthread.php is also annoying.

Tony G
11-09-2004, 09:27 PM
Line 57 Char 24? Never seen anything like that on showthread.

The site is not slow. It's not fast, but it's not so horrendously slow that you have a difficult time browsing it.

AlienSector
11-09-2004, 09:40 PM
While I will admit, it can be slow to load, a T-1 should be able to handle the loading easier than my cable modem so I would think there would be some sort of issue there with the T-1.

I'm not doubting things are a bit slower at times, though a t-1 should be able to run around a cable modem :).

SaN-DeeP
11-14-2004, 06:25 AM
You also have to see, that especially Plain Green of vb.org is exactly made for the purpose to be very fast.

I spent hours on optimizing it, and reduce every unnessecary bit of code.

So just look forward to our merge ;)Hi Xenon,
I love that green style on vb.org :), its one of the best loads very fast with hell loads of info :)


Please take care of thread subscriptions on vbt.com thats very important on the merger,, :)

Regards,

Lionel
11-15-2004, 01:44 PM
Line 57 Char 24? Never seen anything like that on showthread.


Yep I just got it again. I am using IE 6.0.26. It says "null" is nul or not an object.

Lionel
11-15-2004, 01:48 PM
While I will admit, it can be slow to load, a T-1 should be able to handle the loading easier than my cable modem so I would think there would be some sort of issue there with the T-1.

I'm not doubting things are a bit slower at times, though a t-1 should be able to run around a cable modem :).

I go fast on all other sites, so there is no issue with the T-1. Compared to a dsl, yes it is fast here, but I should not be getting those 3 or 4 seconds delay. I am not getting them at vb.org and vb.com is virtually instant. It makes no difference to me. I was just trying to point out a problem. The javascript is more of a nuisance, preventing me to come here as often as I wish.

Lionel
11-15-2004, 01:50 PM
If I may add, to be more specific, this site is superfast, except for showthread...