Site is not MAC freindly!

[imported_Junior]

Why is this and is there any plans to make it more MAC freindly?

[Tony G]

It it your site or your forum?

[zachb]

I would assume it is not so Mac-friendly because the big majority of users use PC's. Maybe talk to SaintDog about it through Pm or something, and he can steps to making it better on Macs.

[imported_Junior]

Yeah I do realize that 99% of users are on PCs. There should be a place where you should be able to ownload the text files directly.

Even MAC users have vb liscenses.

[imported_Junior]

This is what I need to work. If someone could explain how to configure the MAC to be able to download the zip/txt files without it wanitng to download the PHP file, that would be lovely.

Also, If there is a program for the MAC that opens ZIP files, this would also be a geat help!

thank you in advance.

[Wayne Luke]

Hmm... Well the ZIP and Text files are accessed through a PHP script. They don't exist on a drive anywhere but in the database. I would think the only thing you have to change is the title when you download. Otherwise, talk to Apple about recognizing common MIME types.

As far as uncompressing ZIP files on a Macintosh. May I recommend Stuffit Expander. It is the most widely used Archiving system on the Macintosh platform and when I had a Macintosh in the System 7 days, it worked splendidly on zip files as well.

[Brad]

What broswer are you using to acess the site junior?

I hear that Mozilla (http://mozilla.org/) solves some of these problems with the Mac. They have builds for os-x and os 8 and 9 there. I dont have a mac (i plan on getting one when i can), if i did i would test if for you.

[NancyC]

Well, you 90%ers (PC users) don't know what you're missing. Even Bill Gates knows the Mac is a better computer. That said...

I can read the forums fine, it's installing the skins that is giving me trouble. The first problem -- downloading. I'm getting "attachment.php" instead of the zip file. I read what Wayne Luke says above: " I would think the only thing you have to change is the title when you download." I tried this, and it worked. Don't know why. Works when I hold down the OPTION key to download attachment.php, then rename it on my hard drive. Clicking on the renamed .zip file runs Stuffit, and I got the folder.

Problem #2 -- elsewhere in this forum, I mentioned the problems I was having, and someone (sorry, forget who) pointed me to the right directory: /forums/images/themes so I created that, and then sub dirs for the themes I wanted. I'm getting SOME of the images, but not all of them. I can see they are there, though. I can find out the file name of one I can see and one I can't and both of them are in the directory. But they are not all loading -- even when I click on "load image".

[Smoothie]

First, it's Mac, not MAC. Second, I use Mozilla. Works great. You need 2 tools. the first being BBEdit, a great text editor. Second, Stuffit Expander. For zipping, unzipping files.

99.9% of the vB sites I visit display correctly with Mozilla. IE is not so forgiving. Also, IE for the PC renders much differently then IE for the Mac. I've installed a bunch of styles, absolutely no problem.

If you have any Mac specific questions, visit my forums.

[NancyC]

By Mozilla, you mean Netscape? I have tried and tried to love Netscape and Eudora, and I just don't. I hate MS as a corp., but I like SOME of their products -- specifically IE and Outlook Express.

I found your forum -- macfora.com -- you should reference it, :^)

[Smoothie]

Originally posted by Nancy C
By Mozilla, you mean Netscape? I have tried and tried to love Netscape and Eudora, and I just don't. I hate MS as a corp., but I like SOME of their products -- specifically IE and Outlook Express.

I found your forum -- macfora.com -- you should reference it, :^) Mozilla, not Netscape. Even though I believe they use the same rendering engine. Mozilla, version 1.01 is the latest stable version. If you're up to it, they have nightly builds you can install and try. I only use IE to check my site. I use Mozilla full time. I do use Entourage as my mail client, Word, Excel as well.

As far as you images displaying, you need to upload your style images to a directory inside your forums directory, call it whatever you like. Then, go to styles in the vB admin cp and set your image path.

[Smoothie]

When downloading zip files, I use Mozilla. I use Stuffif Expander to unzip.

[DestyNova]

Originally posted by Nancy C
Well, you 90%ers (PC users) don't know what you're missing. Even Bill Gates knows the Mac is a better computer. That said...

lol... no I ll never ever miss anything.. I have been using Mac for few years before convert to PC. IMHO, Mac is sux in many area. As formely Mac users I know what I m talking so hence PC people are NOT miss anything.

Anyway, I agree with you about this site have few problems on Mac, I can notice that. Even though I sometimes have download problem.

[assassingod]

Mac is only good for the following things:
Graphic Design
Over-sized paper weight
Stress Reliver (You can throw it out the window and it wouldnt matter if it got smashed to bits:)

[DestyNova]

Originally posted by ffdcsite

Over-sized paper weight
Stress Reliver (You can throw it out the window and it wouldnt matter if it got smashed to bits:)
I second, I second

We had a special party at one of universities and there are nearly 2000 people there. We collect $$ thur funding and more so we can buy near 200 IMac and all we do is hang all of 200 on the steel line then use the bat, boxing gloves, urine, football, many more at 200 Mac with 15 different position of DV to capture the event.

After everything else (nearly 2 hours) we cut some unnecessary footage and merge all of these tapes in one tape and send it to Steve (The big Mac Idiot) heheh. That was a blast time. That was during after three days conver to PC so I enjoy my time at there.

Fun, fun, fun XD

[assassingod]

LOL! I wish I was there to see that;)

Anyway, back on topic - Mac's suck:)

[SaintDog]

Mac's are graphics computers, that is about all they are good for IMO. The Mac .vs. PC war has been going on for a long time, although I honestly don't see why they are so expensive; I certainly don't feel the hardware is worth half of the cost, so that basically leaves those cases with the Apple on them.

In short, if you have money to burn and don't want to pry your computer open to upgrade, buy a Mac or "Power Mac". If you don't have $2,000-$5,000 to spend on something that will be obsolete in 1 year, then buy or build your own PC.

[Smoothie]

How boring.....us vs. them. I never could understand the need to defend ones choice of a particular brand of computer or OS. Or for that matter, to be critical of what other use. Very childish.

[SaintDog]

I personally don't have anything against them (or those that use them), Smoothie (Mac's that is), although I do feel they are very overpriced and that if you were to take the money spent on one of the Power G4's (I believe that is what they are called, please correct me if I am wrong), you would be able to build a computer that would run much better and out-perform the G4 by a long shot.

I do give them credit for the graphics though, but other from that, I cannot say much else (yes, I have used a G4 before so my opinion is based on personal experience, not just on what others say).

[Smoothie]

I have a G4, and iBook at home. I run PC's at work. Both do what they are meant to do. The PC's are cheaper, no doubt. But, that's because you can build a PC, you can't build your own Mac. Apple has both the OS and the hardware.

[imported_attic]

Hey,

Yes, I agree that macs are overpriced. If they were cheaper, I certainly would buy one.

Don't forget that, besides graphics, mac also is the most used computer in todays audio/music studios. I think they aim for this particular group of pro users, and therefor can keep their prices high. Believe me, a pro studio or gfx user doesnt mind paying a bit more for a mac.

hP

[Orfejs]

Mac users should fight for themselves and make a site, where all the non-Mac programmers could read what are the most common problems and things to know about iMac browsers & all the other little things.

[redtenpsx]

you can take graphic design off !
All the Good Designers I know who get payed
or make free graphics use unix ,LINUX and WINDOWS
With ADOBE or PSP7 or GIMP (*does mr burns shudder*)

[filburt1]

Anyway, getting back on topic, vBT looks pretty much perfect in Safari. It's like saying Windows makes sites look good. There are six different browsers I can name for OS X right off the top of my head: Safari, Chimera, Mozilla, NS, IE, and AOL.

Also ATM there's no graphics software that can compete with Photoshop. Also Orfejs_there are already tons of Mac sites if you had bothered to use Google. RealBASIC is incredibly popular for OS X programming and Apple documents their APIs for OS X. Apple's market share has been rising again, albeit 2.9% to 3.0% but 0.000001% of that was with my iBook and another sliver will be from when I buy my G4 tower in a year or two when my P3-933 is finally dead. I don't like what's down the road for Windows with all their BS media rights protection, Linux is still only suitable for servers and nerds who are scared of girls, and until OS X runs on x86 there's no way I'm going to build or buy another PC.