I think its time to call this whole free hacking idea a "Wash"

[winky6]

While I can understand the issues some people have, and I even understand Cing's lack of time to continue with developing.

Myself, I'm tired of the endless saga of seeing one promising idea after another get trashed after a short time. I've gone from v3articles, to the so called journal hack, to this - Only to see them get dumped, or go stale.

Cing, it's time to get this idea going as a paid hack. You can then spend the time you need developing it, instead of answering lame questions to people who don't know how to properly read instructions.

When I am finished with my Mambo-VB mod, I'll drop you a PM, and gladly help with the development.

[nexialys]

winky6... this is the proof that some coders are not able to rate the value of a free-access community... asking to make a tool paid when it was released for free... really funny...

commercial hacks are to be commercial because of the value of the addition on your board... if you don't make profits from any addition, why would you pay for such a tool ?

people would not buy cinq articles system if they don't do profit from the script.... and i don't know if it would be a good idea to go along, because cinq would loose all his actual advertising power if he do...

let him take his own decisions...

[Regs]

commercial hacks are to be commercial because of the value of the addition on your board... if you don't make profits from any addition, why would you pay for such a tool ?

people would not buy cinq articles system if they don't do profit from the script.... and i don't know if it would be a good idea to go along, because cinq would loose all his actual advertising power if he do...That doesn't quite make sense in the grande scheme of things... many, many vB forums out there do not make money. So why are they using vB in the first place, i.e., paying for the script?

I thought the thread starter was actually trying to encourage Cinq here.

Cheers,

~Regs.

[cinq]

Well, everyone is entitled to an opinion :)

That said, nothing is ever set in stone till it is.

[libertate]

If I paid for a "hack" I would demand service. Right now I just beg. :nervous:

[T3MEDIA]

I think if your going to charge better be a business about it. expect work.

If its free... We shouldnt +++++. I Do b*itch from time to time when someone says they support it and they dont.

Just say I dont support it and done.

[deb0]

If I paid for a "hack" I would demand service. Right now I just beg. :nervous:

I second that comment.

[RichieBoy67]

I dissagree... It is hard to help people when they ignore you...

Somebody goes out of there way and spends hours, days and weeks creating something and then people who have half a zillion other hacks installed wonder why it doesn't work.......

I don't blame anyone here for not supporting these hacks. Install at your own risk. Why someone should spend all of their time trying to help people that either made mystakes or had other hacks conflicting is beyond me.....

I love Cings article hack and I think it's the best. It is not the easiest install but if you take your time you should be problem free....

Works perfect for me and I thank you Cing...

[Albus]

commercial hacks are to be commercial because of the value of the addition on your board... if you don't make profits from any addition, why would you pay for such a tool ?

If you don't make a profit on your site, why pay for vBulletin at all? Because sometimes 'benefit' doesn't always equate to 'income'. I get a great benefit from all the hacks I've installed over time, paid or otherwise.

[qwasty]

hmm, I think you anti-commercial software folks are a bit out of touch. I've been shopping for commercial software, and buying it, even if it's not as good as the free stuff, simply because of the quality and quantity of the service. What good is free software if it has a bug I can't figure out, and no one wants to take responsibility for it? What good is free software if the developer gets married and leaves his product to rot? If someone's making money on a product, I feel much more secure in investing my time, money, energy, and other resources into integrating that product into my life/business/hobbies/whatever, because the people making money are dependent on making me happy.

I've bought 3 "cheesy" web software packages during the last week. When I say "cheesy", I mean it's not business related, or anything elite or professional. It's silly things like chat applets and tagboards. Everyone one of those products I've bought has been easy to install, easy to configure, easy to run, fast, efficient, unobtrusive, and generally well programmed. On top of that, each vendor responded to support request within a few HOURS of me sending them an email. All of the free software products I WAS going to use goes in the garbage because, after 3 months of hassles, most of them aren't working, or I'm still waiting for support, or they just plain suck.

I was attracted to this vBArticles mod, but it looks complex, and I'm seeing where people are having troubles getting rid of it, and it seems like the kind of thing that "takes over" your system. All of that would be OK if I could expect someone to help me solve those problems, but since there's no professionally done commercial version, I don't expect anything but problems, just like most of the other "hacks" that are out there.

So, to sum up, when I use commercial software, things go smoothly and quickly. That's worth more than money.

Simply put, if I pay for it, I expect quality. If it's free, I expect to get what I paid for. I think that applies even to the best free software...the kind where companies make money off of it by providing support...which further motivates them to "improve" the software in ways that make it problematic for anyone but an expert.