Hidden submital to mutliple scripts?

I need code that will take an entry into a formbox, send a copy of that entry to one site using one name for the box, send it to another site using another name for the box, etc...

In other words, I'm trying to create one single registration page that will transparently register the user with liveuniverse.com, and Vbulletin at the same time, without renaming all the login fields on member.php.

For example the field for the username on Liveuniverse.com is named "dig.new.handle" while the field for the username on Vb is named "username".

If someone could help me with this it would be greatly appreciated. A friend suggested hidden frames, but I didn't understand his explanation.

Thanks!

-Eugene

Pertinent info:
My forum
http://techhappy.com/forums/member.php?action=register&who=adult

Liveuniverse:
http://www.liveuniverse.com

i started a post about just the same type of thing yesterday:

http://vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=7216

i dont understand what your trying to do on your site. If they sign up it puts them in the database. I want to have a form that signs them up to multiple sites, and i dont have explicit access to the database.

Also, I dont want to have multiple sign ups to Vb.

I want it to sign up to Vb, a chat service, and everyone.net, all from one page.

The problem is, each of those services name the fields differently, one calls the username "username", another calls it "Dig.user", etc..

same here....

basically i want this for two things. 1 is exactly what you want, so that they sign up for say vbulletin and their email also goes to a mailing list script as well.

Secondly, i want to be able to put some code into someone's elses of server script (that does NOT do mysql itself with username and password) that sends some info to say register2.php (to be made) on my server that adds the info to my database?

ie.

1. user goes to http://www.friendsdomain.com
2. user fills in form to sign up for friendsdomain.com
3. form contains username and email etc.
4. presses submit
5. goes to http://www.friendsdomain.com/processform.php
----
6. Now i want that info to also be sent to http://www.mydomain.com/register.php so it can deal with it.
----
7. user sent to http://www.friendsdomain.com/thankyou.php

Everything you want done can be done, I just don't know the way to code it.

It will fire off a Lynx browser on your system, that updates each of those other sites

Like
http://www.blah.com/register.cgi?username=blah&password=blah etc

The sistes would have to all a post from outside their server on the script for it to work.

cool... i suppose the hidden frame thing could work like that as well creating a frame with url

http://www.domain.com/register.php?username=blah&password=blah.. i may see if i can do that although doing it the way you suggest would be a lot better, i will search around and see if i can find anything.

What I've done is simple, probably not incredibly efficient, but it works. :)

$blah = file("http://www.domain.com/script.php?arg=".urlencode($val)."&arg2=1");

Of course, this might not work if the program being used ignores variables sent through GET. :) You could do a more complex way and just emulate POST, but I'm not going to go into that.

Originally posted by Ed Sullivan

$blah = file("http://www.domain.com/script.php?arg=".urlencode($val)."&arg2=1");


Uh huh, what does each part of this statement do?

cool ed, simplicity is best - clever

thanks

eugenie

$blah = file("http://www.domain.com/index.html")

just tells the script to download the file (in the process of course it sends the data to that server.. about to come to that).

the

?arg=blah

arg is like username=
and blah would be the actual username

now the .urelencode($val) is just to turn $val (which may be say two words into url transmittalbe information).

Make sense.

ED:

How would you do this in perl?

You have to use LWP.

Don't even ask. :)

Originally posted by chrispadfield

$blah = file("http://www.domain.com/index.html")

just tells the script to download the file (in the process of course it sends the data to that server.. about to come to that).

then

?arg=blah

arg is like username=
and blah would be the actual username

now the .urelencode($val) is just to turn $val (which may be say two words into url transmittalbe information).


Chris:

$blah = file("http://www.everyone.net/signup.html")

That downloads the sign up sheet for everyone.net?


then

?arg=blah

arg is like username=
and blah would be the actual username


So, for example:

"arg" would be the name that everyone.net uses for the username form field?

"blah" would be whatever name I used for my username form field; in my sign up script?

And the script would transfer the data in the "blah" field to the "arg" field?

ED:

I think there is a " missing before 1" in arg2=1", not sure though

I'm in this program at biztech.nfte.com and they are looking into BB systems.

The only problem is biztech mainly for entrepreneurs under 18 (some under 14), so they aren't sure about the legalities. What do you know about this? If they use the COPPA form will they be free of legalities? If you get a chance could you email, or ask someone within Jelsoft to contact them? They are a possible source of a large number of licenses.

Doloresh@nfte.com, nhupert@edc.org


-Eugene (no, not Eugenie, lol)

you might have more problem getting this to work with something like everyone.net who might not work with this type of system. It would not be the sginup.htlm page you call anyway but the CGI or PHP or ASP whatever it is program that processes the form when someone clicks submit. I have to say i doubt it will work. This type of thing is really only going to work if you control the scripts which for everyone.net you don't. I wanted to do it for http://www.communityarchitect.com as well but i don't think i can (especially as they appear to have something preventing that as well).

Can't you just have it send the data to the resulting html page that is created. The sign up page?

Essentially fill out the fields on the everyone.net page, and the fields on the vb sign up page, and submit it, without the user knowing?

no :) i don't think you understand how it works.

HTML page containing form.
Visitor types in info
Submits form
Goes to script on server for processing.

that is what happens.

to get it to go to two different scripts for processing (what we want) is impossible directly (it appears). So what we do is get one of the scripts, to call the other script not as a form but using a URL. This is what ed suggests. The url will have to be done in a special way as shown to make it work. Everyone net probably won't allow their scripts to sign people up in this way (GET as opposed to POST) but you can try.

So if it uses GET i can have the script call http://www.site.com/signup.asp?username="Eugene"&password="qwerty"

and that will fill out and submit the username and password fields?

you cannot explicitly tell a script that:
form field one = form field alpha
alpha being on your page.

For example, you can't have the script take all the user's data, send it to a central file.

Then have the script take the username entry, and enter it into each field, the username entry on everyone.net, the dig.user entry on livuniverse.com, etc... and submit it?

what about having the other pages loaded in a hidden frame, each time the data is entered its passed along to the other frames, with the name changed appropriately for each hidden frame?

Then when the user hits submit that submits the other frames at the same time?

Originally posted by Eugenie2000
So if it uses GET i can have the script call http://www.site.com/signup.asp?username="Eugene"&password="qwerty"

and that will fill out and submit the username and password fields?




yes, if it works with GET that is what I think Ed is suggesting but i havn't tried it yet. If they make you use the POST protocol then this won't work.

but I thought using ? just passes it to another form and doesnt allow it to be submitted. That's the impression I got from http://tech.irt.org/articles/js063/index.htm

How old are you? Just wondering..

Create a form and put some fake fields in it.
Make it's method POST.
Submit it and look at the URL.
Change it's mehtod to GET.
Submit it and look at the URL.

That's their difference.

I see, GET passes the values in the URL. How does POST pass the values?

I looked at some GET vs POST answered questions at ASKasp.com and found some answers. With GET data is unsecure and limited to 250 chars, but visible in the address bar, POST sends the data to the server which processes it?

yup makes sense, like replying to this thread uses post. Ed is basically saying we can use his trick only if the resulting script will allow data input by the GET method. then it will work. If it dosen't (and i am betting everyone.net dosen't) and they use only POST then, we are i think, stuck.

If you want to use POST (you can go get this way too), you have to use sockets: http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.fsockopen.php

On the side, just saw anti-trust (only plays late at nite for some reason).

I find it interesting that the head of NURV (the MS like company) looks very much like Mr. Gates.

The movie kind of creeped me out. I keep taking looks over my shoulder now and then.
You should see it.
I give it a B+.

Thank god there is a way. I guess this is sort of like my crusade to find the holy grail.

-Eugene

$fp = fsockopen ("www.php.net", 80, $errno, $errstr, 30);
if (!$fp) {
echo "$errstr ($errno)<br>\n";
} else {
fputs ($fp, "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n");
while (!feof($fp)) {
echo fgets ($fp,128);
}
fclose ($fp);
}

is that what I use? Where do I insert
fopen("http://some.site.com/html/page.html","r")
?

// Data to pass to the cgi script
$name = 'John Doe';
$email = 'johndoe@domain.com';
$description = 'Nice site, I love your animated gif collection!';

// Build the request string
$request = 'name=' . urlencode($name);
$request .= '&email=' . urlencode($email);
$request .= '&description=' . urlencode($msg);

// Build the header
$header = "POST /signup/signup2.php HTTP/1.0\r\n";
$header .= "Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded\r\n";
$header .= "Content-length: " . strlen($request) . "\r\n\r\n";

// Open the connection
$fp = fsockopen('http://www.domain.com/', 80, &$err_num, &$err_msg, 30);
if ($fp)
{
// Send everything
fputs($fp, $header . $request);
// Get the response
while (!feof($fp))
$response .= fgets($fp, 128);
}



is what i was going to work from but so far havn't had much success, i only tried locally which dosen't work so i think i need to do it on a true domain name, will do this week sometime.

the get method worked fine with:


$blah = file("http://localhost/signup/signup2.php?name=".urlencode($name)."&email=".urlencode($email)."&description=".urlencode($description)."");

Maybe these threads will help?
http://www.phpbuilder.com/mail/php3-list/199806/0902.php

<a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general&m=90222503032679&w=2" target="_blank">http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-...2503032679&w=2</a>

<a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general&m=90222503032679&w=2" target="_blank">http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-...2503032679&w=2</a>

is very useful, thanks. Will try that out very soon.

Here is the original, with other items about it

http://www.phpbuilder.com/mail/php3-list/199806/0856.php

Originally posted by Eugenie2000
$fp = fsockopen ("www.php.net", 80, $errno, $errstr, 30);
if (!$fp) {
echo "$errstr ($errno)<br>\n";
} else {
fputs ($fp, "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n");
while (!feof($fp)) {
echo fgets ($fp,128);
}
fclose ($fp);
}

is that what I use? Where do I insert
fopen("http://some.site.com/html/page.html","r")
?





have you got it working now? i have with the links you gave me, if you need help i can but i imagine you have it working now??

Nope, I'm not sure which script to use to accomplish what I need.

function PostToHost($host, $path, $data_to_send) {
$fp = fsockopen($host,80);
fputs($fp, "POST $path HTTP/1.1\n");
fputs($fp, "Host: $host\n");
fputs($fp, "Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded\n");
fputs($fp, "Content-length: ".strlen($data_to_send)."\n");
fputs($fp, "Connection: close\n\n");
fputs($fp, $data_to_send);
while(!feof($fp)) {
echo fgets($fp, 128);
}
fclose($fp);
}

You would call this function with something like:

PostToHost("www.whatever.com","/cgi-bin/whatever.cgi","abc=123&def=456");


or


$fp = fsockopen ("www.php.net", 80, $errno, $errstr, 30);
if (!$fp) {
echo "$errstr ($errno)<br>\n";
} else {
fputs ($fp, "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n");
while (!feof($fp)) {
echo fgets ($fp,128);
}
fclose ($fp);
}

Perhaps you can email me what you did if you don't want to display it.

ok.

i have two scripts.

one is called signup.php and the other is called signup2.php

the idea is that signup.php is like the register script for vbulletin. It does whatever it does and then you add in a bit more to make it send the data to your other script.

The other script is signup2.php - this would perhaps be your everyone.net script etc (it is the one that you do NOT need to edit).

Anyway, this is what i added to signup.php


PostToHost("www.ascifi.net","/post/signup2.php","name=".urlencode($name)."&email=".urlencode($email)."&description=".urlencode($description)."");





function PostToHost($host, $path, $data_to_send) {
$fp = fsockopen($host,80);
fputs($fp, "POST $path HTTP/1.1\n");
fputs($fp, "Host: $host\n");
fputs($fp, "Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded\n");
fputs($fp, "Content-length: ".strlen($data_to_send)."\n");
fputs($fp, "Connection: close\n\n");
fputs($fp, $data_to_send);
while(!feof($fp)) {
echo fgets($fp, 128);
}
fclose($fp);
}


what this does is:

1) connects to the domain name http://www.ascifi.net
2) and finds the script url at /post/signup2.php
3) it then sends the data
name=$name
url=$url
description=$description
4) prints if it works or not.

So basically, signup.php is sending a form containing a name, email and a description field to your external script as if a webuser was doing it.

This should work for everyone.net i would think.

So basically I would substitute in the address of the everyone.net sign up page instead of index2.php?

Does it matter that everyone.net might use something other than php?

Your a scifier? Cool.

Im a trekkie, although I like andromeda more nowadays. Beltran (Q) was on andromeda, and is going to be in the next episode on monday nite. I missed the first version on Saturday. How old are you?

Anyway, this will open a socket to the site, and they will be unable to avoid this emulation, no?

Your version will send whatever $email is equal to,

put it in the form field named "email",

send whatever $username is equal to,

and put it in the form field named "username";
since "email"=$email, and "username"=$username

It will submit it to whatever script is running (whether it be Perl/CGI, PHP, ASP, etc... since the script will get the HTML end result of the PHP, Perl, or ASP script)?

[chrispadfield2]

yeah that is all correct, it will not matter if asp etc.

couple of things:

1) check out the everyone.net signup page, they may have hidden variables and stuff like that you need to incclude
2) it is NOT guaranteed to work by any stretch of the imagination. Everyone.net can prevent signups coming from outisde their domain, so that it would have to be from their page, if they did this at a server level you might not get round it, i recon you probably could though as communityarchitect.com went to quite strong measures to stop this sort of thing, see www.signup.ascifi.net to see (at the bottom you have to type in the numbers and graphics they have).

I am 19.

Sci-Fi

yeah, love it. stargate/farscape are my favourite. ST i like in moderation, andromeda.. um.. ok but Kevin Sorbo is just, i am afraid to say, corny. Suffice to say my opinions arn't hugely popular on my www.talkandromeda.com board but lots there like it. Do come and join in :)

That is exactly what I need, subdomain + hosting!

I was going to go with some other weird unprofessional looking company but communityarchitect is the perfect solution.

Now I know you probably spent quite a number of hours working around their security, but could you email me the scripts your using to get the sign up? Please? :-)

If you could also email the php file your using for the forms, since I don't know how your integrating the $email with the email formfield, and other matters.

You are a life saver.

-Eugene

P.S. Ooooh, they added the attach file feature, don't need to email me, just zip up the php files, html files, or CGI files your using.

[chrispadfield2]

nah havn't got round community architects security yet.

The only way i can think of is somehow getting the images displayed in the screen so the visitor still types them in, but on your form, and then sending the data. It is something i am going to look into in the future but i seriously doubt it will be easy.

communityarchitect gives a graphix with a security code on it every time?
you must enter in the security code to get the accnt?

When I looked on the page there was a security code. Is that something else?

That's the script that they force you to use or something?

I'm kinda confused, the signup works.

[chrispadfield2]

yes, the www.signup.ascifi.net is part of their site. It uses my domian name but that is their signup form. I don't want to use their singup form (cos it has horrible questions and mailing lists etc in it) i want people to get an account automatically when they sign up at vbulletin. But, i don't know how to because of the security number type thing they have put in there. If i find a way then i will tell you.

I asked for authorization on ur icq accnt 25499517

How exactly did you use the PHp and html? Did you make a template in Vb, since they allow both php and html variables at once?

or do servers remove all the php related variables when sending the html after processing the file?

Could you attach the sign up page and the page that receives the info so i can reverse work it?

[chrispadfield2]

my signup2.php was just a tiny little script to add data to a mysql database, it is just any old form processing script. I used:


<?php

require ("config.php");

$mysql_link = mysql_connect("$servername", "$dbusername", "$dbpassword");
mysql_select_db($dbname, $mysql_link);

$sql = mysql_query (
"INSERT INTO table2 SET " .
"name='$name', " .
"email='$email', " .
"description='$description'");


if ($sql) {
echo("<P>Your details have been added</P>");
} else {
echo("<P>Error adding details: " .
mysql_error() . "</P>");
}



?>


just to test it.

$name and $email and $description are what need to be sent to the script by the form, or in our case from the form sent internally by singup.php

You need to remember that signup.php (ie this form thing we included in it) is just mimicking any old normal form, like the one you are typing here. I could for example, make a script that sent a form request to vbulletin to post a new thread or something like that, that is all that you are doing.

I will do the ICQ thing when i get on it, i am very sporadic in using it as it wastes far to much of my time :)

So your adding users to the database with the script, while I'll be having them fill out multiple forms transparently.
Interesting... I'll see if it works and get back to you.

-Eugene

Hey dood, check out http://www.addesigner.com/ to make some cool banner ads for your sci-fi sites.

You could have them generate it, and then save it to your hd, then edit it with a animated gif editing software to remove the branding, hehe!

We're so horrible, then again, everyone else is trying to milk us dry, so were just paying them back.

[chrispadfield2]

hehe, coincidence as it be, i came across that site yesterday :)

So let me see if I have this right, the following is a very crude version of what i think i'm supposed to do:

<TD><normalfont><B>User Name:</B></normalfont></TD>
<TD><INPUT TYPE="TEXT" NAME="$username" SIZE=25 MAXLENGTH=25>
</TD>
</TR>

<TD><normalfont><B>Password:</B></normalfont></TD>
<TD><INPUT TYPE="PASSWORD" NAME="$password" SIZE=25 MAXLENGTH=15> </TD></TR>

<TD><normalfont><B>Email:</B></normalfont><br>
<smallfont>Please enter a valid email address. You can choose to hide it below in the preferences section.</smallfont></TD>
<TD><INPUT TYPE="TEXT" NAME="$email" SIZE=25 MAXLENGTH=50>
</TD>
</TR>

PostToHost("www.everyone.net","/whatever/signup2.php","everyonename=".urlencode($username)."&everyoneemail=".urlencode($e mail)."&everyonepassword=".urlencode($password)."");

function PostToHost($host, $path, $data_to_send) {
$fp = fsockopen($host,80);
fputs($fp, "POST $path HTTP/1.1\n");
fputs($fp, "Host: $host\n");
fputs($fp, "Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded\n");
fputs($fp, "Content-length: ".strlen($data_to_send)."\n");
fputs($fp, "Connection: close\n\n");
fputs($fp, $data_to_send);
while(!feof($fp)) {
echo fgets($fp, 128);
}
fclose($fp);
}

//end

So that's basically it? Everyoneemail is the imaginary name that everyone.net uses for the form (i havent checked to see the real one).
Based on that, is my code correct?

[chrispadfield10]

no. you can't mix the html and php just like that.

You need 3 sections:

1) a html file. This should contain your form that you want to get the details from.


<TD><normalfont><B>User Name:</B></normalfont></TD>
<TD><INPUT TYPE="TEXT" NAME="$username" SIZE=25 MAXLENGTH=25>
</TD>
</TR>

<TD><normalfont><B>Password:</B></normalfont></TD>
<TD><INPUT TYPE="PASSWORD" NAME="$password" SIZE=25 MAXLENGTH=15> </TD></TR>

<TD><normalfont><B>Email:</B></normalfont><br>
<smallfont>Please enter a valid email address. You can choose to hide it below in the preferences section.</smallfont></TD>
<TD><INPUT TYPE="TEXT" NAME="$email" SIZE=25 MAXLENGTH=50>
</TD>
</TR>


is sort of right but you do not use $password in a form like this you just use name="password" that is all.

Then you need a submit button with the action pointing to your php script script.

2. Php Script.

call this process.php or whatever you want.

it gets the info from the above script (this is email and password). The values that email holds (ie what was typed in) is now held in $email.

You can do now what ever you want with these variables in the script, add them to a database etc whatver.

3. Sending a form off.

If you want to sign someone up for the everyone.net email account then what you have next appears ok


PostToHost("www.everyone.net","/whatever/signup2.php","everyonename=".urlencode($username)."&everyoneemail=".urlencode($email)."&everyonepassword=".urlencode($password)."");





function PostToHost($host, $path, $data_to_send) {
$fp = fsockopen($host,80);
fputs($fp, "POST $path HTTP/1.1\n");
fputs($fp, "Host: $host\n");
fputs($fp, "Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded\n");
fputs($fp, "Content-length: ".strlen($data_to_send)."\n");
fputs($fp, "Connection: close\n\n");
fputs($fp, $data_to_send);
while(!feof($fp)) {
echo fgets($fp, 128);
}
fclose($fp);
}


(this should be just a section of your process.php script or whatever you call it.

Of course, everyone.net will need more fields in their signup process, to find out view the source of their webpage. (p.s. i still don't think it will necessary work as they will have referer checking on it but you can try).

That is all there is to it.

p.s.

i think you need to do a bit of reading about how basic form processing in php works so you can understand how the advanced stuff does (which some of this is). There are loads of good tutorials on this sort of thing, www.hotscripts.com is a good place to find lots of them, it will almost certainly help.

It automatically puts whatever value was in email into $email?

or i just say "email='$email'," ?

Originally posted by chris
2. Php Script.

call this process.php or whatever you want.

it gets the info from the above script (this is email and password). The values that email holds (ie what was typed in) is now held in $email.

You can do now what ever you want with these variables in the script, add them to a database etc whatver.


In the first part of this script I would basically say: email="$email",
username="$username", password="$password".

Then in the second part, i would send the data, while saying everyonenetuser="$username", etc..?

[chrispadfield2]

um no.

you already have $username and $password in the script.

You really need to tell me what you are trying to actually do. Are you just trying to have a form on your site so people can sign up to everyone.net? is that it? if so, all you need is the 1st bit (html page for getting info) and the third bit (sending data of to another server).

Will the intermediate file automatically put the content recieved for the field "username" into $username? Could I see the code for the intermediate file?

What I want to do is have users fill out a form, then have it sent to 3 different sign up forms, each time chaning the form names sent to correspond with the unique form names on each of those forms.

[chrispadfield2]

that is fine then...

i already posted my intermediate file (this is what i called signup.php) and it was the one that both a) connected to the database and b) sent the form info on to signup2.php

what you want to do is fine. you need:

1) HTML to get ALL the info your visitors are going to list
2) the PHP script that does:
i) has the form sending sub-routine (as shown in previous post)
ii) has 3 calls using the sub-routine sending the results of to the 3 different signup-forms.
iii) an ending saying "thank you, info submitted" type thing.

That is all there is to it, you have everything you need, you need to find out the names of the fields that the scripts you are sending it to use (just view the source on their pages, if it says name="everyone-username" then the field name is everyone-username, just use everyone-username=$username inside the post line to the everyone.net script (already show this).

Have a try and doing it, once you have tried to make the scripts and sections and if you can't get it to work, post everything you have made and i will try and debug it for you.

Looking at Sitepoints tutorials on Managing users with PHP sessions. You ought to take a look. Its on the main page: http://www.sitepoint.com

Ok I just finished up with this problem yesterday. Simple way to do it is just to use javascript. Works with everyone except the ones that don't have it enabled of course and all they need to do is click another button to proceed. Have them fill out all the fields on one page drop in a db and then just call them as your submiting to the other forms...

http://www.startalent.tv/emailjoin.phps is an example of this. Hope this helps.