vB.org + vBulletintemplates.com

[dndog]

I really feel that vBulletintemplates.com should be merged in to vB.org. The admins at vBtemplates.com work very hard to make the community survive, and it still struggles. Lets face it, when given a choice, most people would rather hang out on vB.org.

I understand why the communities are seperate. In a utopian world, the split between the websites would function excellently, and people would go back and forth between website installing hacks and templates.

In reality, most people hang out at vB.org and vBtemplates.com is a ghost town. :ermm:

The choice seems clear: Why not merge the communities together and give vB.org a special "template" section, which incorporates vBtemplates.com template mods.

Once again, I am grateful to both communities and have installed many hacks from both sites. I feel that vBtemplates.com has many incredible template mods that would be used more if they were on vB.org. I thank all the admins on both sites for their hard work and deciation. :nervous:

[filburt1]

I really feel that vBulletintemplates.com should be merged in to vB.org. The admins at vBtemplates.com work very hard to make the community survive, and it still struggles. Lets face it, when given a choice, most people would rather hang out on vB.org.

I understand why the communities are seperate. In a utopian world, the split between the websites would function excellently, and people would go back and forth between website installing hacks and templates.

In reality, most people hang out at vB.org and vBtemplates.com is a ghost town. :ermm:

The choice seems clear: Why not merge the communities together and give vB.org a special "template" section, which incorporates vBtemplates.com template mods.

Once again, I am grateful to both communities and have installed many hacks from both sites. I feel that vBtemplates.com has many incredible template mods that would be used more if they were on vB.org. I thank all the admins on both sites for their hard work and deciation. :nervous:
This very matter is being discussed at this time by all three sites' teams.

[Logikos]

The fun part would be merging the users/pass, and post.

[filburt1]

The fun part would be merging the users/pass, and post.
It's already supported by the official Jelsoft importing scripts. The internal discussion is more administrative than technical at this point.

[Logician]

Hold on for this. This may be more close than you ever imagined. ;)

[Natch]

*whew* Thank G*d ;)

[Xenon]

You'll get an official announcement on that topic soon, as filbi already said we're currently have the administrating chats.

And of course a bit of technical questions as well (we don't have plain vb's here)
Stay tuned, for more info :)

[KW802]

Hold on for this. This may be more close than you ever imagined. ;)Very cool.

[dndog]

Great minds think alike! (me and jelsoft). ;)

[cinq]

Such merging could only strengthen the vb community as a whole and further spur vb to greater heights.
Imo at least lol

Way to go guys :)

[Logikos]

I think the same, i can't remember the last time i visted vbt.

[Brad]

Such merging could only strengthen the vb community as a whole and further spur vb to greater heights.
Imo at least lol

Way to go guys :)
Hence the reason it was proposed :)

[Princeton]

excellent! impatiently awaiting for the outcome :up:

[Talisman]

That is wonderful news. :banana: Those template mods are just as important to us as the php code hacks for the benefit they serve in our forums. Consolidating all these ideas will strengthen the whole community.

Nice idea. Cheers!

[Dan]

Hence the reason it was proposed :)
I vistied vBt just a few minutes ago and have been frequenting it more often recently :P

[Xenon]

Great minds think alike! (me and jelsoft). ;)
Jelsoft's not a single mind ^^

We are the vBorg, resitance is futile, but Jelsoft isn't :p

[M1th]

Great idea guys!

[AWS]

Great idea guys!
Best news I've heard in a while.
Kudos for finally getting this done.

[dndog]

Jelsoft's not a single mind ^^

We are the vBorg, resitance is futile, but Jelsoft isn't :p

Yeah Yeah. :p

Anyway, this is awesome news.

Will vBT's default theme be released for free if the sites are merged? (crosses fingers). :rolleyes:

[Brad]

Yeah Yeah. :p

Anyway, this is awesome news.

Will vBT's default theme be released for free if the sites are merged? (crosses fingers). :rolleyes:
No..

[AnhTuanCool]

I think we shouldn't !

[memobug]

I really like it the way it is - a different focus, leadership and mindset. I have been spending more and more time there on vbT recently.

What's the difference between merging and opening up a couple "Templates" boards on vB.org?

Regards,

Matt

[Logikos]

My $0.02 is that i think it will be better for both communities, they have over 20k members and maybe 4-5 members on at a time. I think it will have much needed attention if it was to be merged into vb.org.

[buro9]

I so hope this happens.

I've argued it a few times before, but the distributed sites do little to strengthen the support and extensibility of vBulletin as a product. It's simply too hard for newbies to know where they should go for what type of support or help, and as hacks can be split down templates and code (template conditionals vs PHP), it is very hard for them to understand where to find what they're looking for.

All newbies seek are answers, and it would benefit all of us to have them find them as swiftly as possible... as this will reduce the amount of effort hackwriters have to give, as well as increase the feeling amongst newbies that the support network that the community offers is responsive and comprehensive.

Go for it :)

[Toneboy]

Pity it is so quiet over there, as there is plenty of useful stuff there. I think the problem is that people come and get what they want, then leave and don't come back. Stuff there tends to be stuff which is "final", you don't get the "back and forth" that you get from hacks which are evolving and always getting feedback.

[rebelsrock06]

Pity it is so quiet over there, as there is plenty of useful stuff there. I think the problem is that people come and get what they want, then leave and don't come back. Stuff there tends to be stuff which is "final", you don't get the "back and forth" that you get from hacks which are evolving and always getting feedback.
as much as i like them seperate i think the best thing would be for them to be merged

[MrNase]

I'll warmly welcome a fusion.. vBT.com was never a place i'd like to stay for very long. I posted some template mods there but I never liked the atmosphere over there nor I liked the style. ;)
I really think the merge will be a great plus to the community and that's, in my eyes, the last chance for vBt.com to become more successful.

[Dan]

Well all I want is the vBT style also here if the merge happens :) [and my accounts merged as well]

[rebelsrock06]

Well all I want is the vBT style also here if the merge happens :) [and my accounts merged as well]
thats one thing that i just thought of

Heres the Senario

Lets say there is

User1 and User2 .

User1 registers here on Vbulletin.org Forums with sn User1 but doesnt register on Vbulletintemplates.com.

User2 registers on Vbulletintemplates.com with the sn User1.

If the two sites were to merge there would be a chaotic mess of the usernames if someone has taken that name on a different site. I dont think that there are to many of these im just saying that a lot of people use very repeatable names like Dan or Bob or something like that.

Did that make sense

[SaN-DeeP]

I will really be happy to see vbulletintemplates.com alongwith vb.org, as i never visit vbt.com ;) (reason, site is very heavy on grafix takes hell lotsa time for a dialup user to load)
If the two sites were to merge there would be a chaotic mess of the usernames if someone has taken that name on a different site. I dont think that there are to many of these im just saying that a lot of people use very repeatable names like Dan or Bob or something like that.
something has to be done for similar usernames, though i dont assume wont be a big problem, coz user a (named bob with x email address) and user b (named bob with y email address), expect 1 of them not to be a license holder or assuming both are not license holders.
1. We can take vb.org username as BASE (priority) and delete the users with different usernames but similar email id..

Will post more logic, if we really outta go ahead ;)

[rebelsrock06]

I will really be happy to see vbulletintemplates.com alongwith vb.org, as i never visit vbt.com ;) (reason, site is very heavy on grafix takes hell lotsa time for a dialup user to load)

something has to be done for similar usernames, though i dont assume wont be a big problem, coz user a (named bob with x email address) and user b (named bob with y email address), expect 1 of them not to be a license holder or assuming both are not license holders.
1. We can take vb.org username as BASE (priority) and delete the users with different usernames but similar email id..

Will post more logic, if we really outta go ahead ;)
Well i hope they merge

[mholtum]

I would say that the merger would be if nothing else convienient. But, I do spend equal time at both sites.. It is becoming more of an addiction than a hobby for me.. This scares me...

[Brad]

Well all I want is the vBT style also here if the merge happens :) [and my accounts merged as well]
I don't want to say much at the risk of something changing because none of this is really set in stone yet.

vBt's style is planned to make an apperance here sometime after the merge, but not right off.

And the acounts will be merged aswell, we don't want anyone losing alot of posts after the merge because acounts did'nt get associated correctly. We won't be associating them by usernames because of the obvious problems that could arise, I belive someone already brought up a number of issues with that method so I won't take the time to re-type them.

Anyway, there will be an offical annoucment soon about the merge, so stay tuned for that, it should answer all questions that might arise :)

[Logikos]

It will prolly be the same as they did when vb.com merged with vb.org. Using the emails i suppose.

[buro9]

How is this done btw?

I would love to merge together some archived boards I have... yet most usernames will be duplicated and not all will be linked together by email.

Is there a import and merge script somewhere? I'd love to test such a thing :D

[Brad]

How is this done btw?

I would love to merge together some archived boards I have... yet most usernames will be duplicated and not all will be linked together by email.

Is there a import and merge script somewhere? I'd love to test such a thing :D
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=676968&postcount=13

[buro9]

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=676968&postcount=13

Fantastic.

Though I am worried about this:
vB3 (3.0.x -> vB 3.0.1)

All my boards are 3.0.3... downgrading during import?

[Brad]

Fantastic.

Though I am worried about this:


All my boards are 3.0.3... downgrading during import?
It should work with 3.0.3, you can try looking around the impex forum and seeing if there are any issues with 3.0.3. You can always do a test import with back-ups of your forums databases, which I highly recomend you do before any kind of import anyway.

[Johnny]

when will the vb.org and vbt merge happen, im excited to help out more peope on template modifications, since i rarely visit vbt

[Dan]

when will the vb.org and vbt merge happen, im excited to help out more peope on template modifications, since i rarely visit vbt
When it is decided. :D

[Johnny]

the great torture. but o well i can wait a little longer, just as long vb.org can keep me busy as its my morning site run

[Catch-22|BL]

About a year ago vb.org had some template forums, and I was in favor of them being exported to vbtemplates.com when vb3 was introduced, but...

It just hasn't worked. I tried to lurk and post at vbtemplates.com but it just doesn't seem active. Merging the sites won't be perfect but it should make things more efficient. It's healthy that the staff is willing to review these things and have an open mind.

Anyway, good luck!

[Johnny]

About a year ago vb.org had some template forums, and I was in favor of them being exported to vbtemplates.com when vb3 was introduced, but...

It just hasn't worked. I tried to lurk and post at vbtemplates.com but it just doesn't seem active. Merging the sites won't be perfect but it should make things more efficient. It's healthy that the staff is willing to review these things and have an open mind.

Anyway, good luck!

thats the main reason why i didnt post on vbt that much, the site came in handy when needed something but just for a reply took a long time.

[Polo]

I used to go to vbtemplates.com but it always seemed so inactive.. hope this is the best for the vbulletin community :)

[Xenon]

Btw. there is already an announcement on the portal page, just not specific date right now, as we're doing the test aso behind the scenes ;)

[Johnny]

yea i noticed that lastnight, thats why i made the post when it was gonna happen.

psst, can we get a beta test of it *wink* *wink* ;) :p ...

*off topic*
why doesnt the front page news allow comments, i think it will become useful if people have questions about the new exciting news posts, without starting a new thread all the time.

[Xenon]

Well, it's just a simple news system, without the comments ;)

Normally we make an announcement on the board as well, and then comments can go there ;)

[AnhTuanCool]

Just curiously, if someone releases a modification to the templates, what would we call 'em :p

[Johnny]

i belieave template modification ;)

[AnhTuanCool]

I mean we have Coder for people who made hacks(modification to the source code) ;) so...

[peterska2]

temper lol :p

[Johnny]

I mean we have Coder for people who made hacks(modification to the source code) ;) so...

o ok, i get you now..

but temper is a funny one. i like that.

[Colin F]

Just curiously, if someone releases a modification to the templates, what would we call 'em :p
probably coder as well ... html is code too you know ;)

[AnhTuanCool]

Ah, you're right, I like Coder ;)

[integra99]

Templer sounds good to me.

[Xenon]

Lol, Templer would sound really good, yep ;)

Well, we will have to rewrite the algorithm a bit, but i think we will stay with coder, as Colin said html code is code as well ^^

[Dean C]

It's hypertext markup language actually, not code - but whatever floats your boat :p

[peterska2]

I'd rather be a templer or temper as I originally suggested. That way folks who do both can by coders and templers

[Xenon]

Well as said, we have to look about that later.

The usertitle system is easy to rewrite, maybe we make double titles Speak Advanced Coder & Master Templer or whatever.

feel free to suggest what you think would fit in best :)

[Colin F]

It's hypertext markup language actually, not code - but whatever floats your boat :p
Well, then PHP means: PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor, which is just as much code as html :p

[Michael Morris]

I'm putting the finishing touches on a rather interesting and extensive template modification - does it go here now or still on vbtemplates?

[Johnny]

I'm putting the finishing touches on a rather interesting and extensive template modification - does it go here now or still on vbtemplates?


it didnt merge yet, you still put it on vbtemplates.

[neocorteqz]

I'm putting the finishing touches on a rather interesting and extensive template modification - does it go here now or still on vbtemplates?
got a link?

[Floris]

Well as said, we have to look about that later.

The usertitle system is easy to rewrite, maybe we make double titles Speak Advanced Coder & Master Templer or whatever.

feel free to suggest what you think would fit in best :)
A cool hack so members can select from 3 categories of pre-set usertitles :)

'Coder Titles'
`- n00b hacker
`- coder galore
`- uber coder

'Template Titles'
`- novice template monster
`- template galore
`- floris/zachery- wanna be

'vB Fan Titles'.
`- i love vbulletin
`- i like vbulletin
`- i adore forums

Something like that :P

[Xenon]

*gg*
well choosable categories wouldn't be a problem, but i won't add you name somewhere :p

[Floris]

*gg*
well choosable categories wouldn't be a problem, but i won't add you name somewhere :p
It was just a suggestion - It would be a good laugh if you would actually use those randomly-thought-up suggestions.

[Michael Morris]

got a link?

It's a tip of the day system that launches a popup for members once a day - if you're not a member it won't launch anything for you and it doesn't launch anything on the day you're account is established.

I *think* it's working, but I'm sorta waiting for reports from the users to be sure.

[neocorteqz]

It's a tip of the day system that launches a popup for members once a day - if you're not a member it won't launch anything for you and it doesn't launch anything on the day you're account is established.

I *think* it's working, but I'm sorta waiting for reports from the users to be sure.
sounds interesting.

[Zachery]

*gg*
well choosable categories wouldn't be a problem, but i won't add you name somewhere :p
spoilsport you could at lease use my name :p

[Tony G]

I'm putting the finishing touches on a rather interesting and extensive template modification - does it go here now or still on vbtemplates?
Still belongs on vBulletinTemplates. I'm sure nothing from the modification forums will be lost in the merge.

Looking forward to this. :)