alter vbulletins OR inivisionpowerboards passwords

[rin]

hello,

i asked jerry about it, if it is possible to have ipb 2.0 final passwords working in vbulletin 3.0.3. he told me that he wont make any changes with the database of invision nor with the database of vbulletin. i am asking you if it is hard to alter any of the both databases so that my members wont need to get a new password by email. hopefully that can be done easily. ^_^ thanks in advance.

[Zachery]

hello,

i asked jerry about it, if it is possible to have ipb 2.0 final passwords working in vbulletin 3.0.3. he told me that he wont make any changes with the database of invision nor with the database of vbulletin. i am asking you if it is hard to alter any of the both databases so that my members wont need to get a new password by email. hopefully that can be done easily. ^_^ thanks in advance.
The table that holds the salt must be altere3d to hold more characters.

[rin]

and thats it? sounds easy, right?

[Zachery]

and thats it? sounds easy, right?
Well i think thats just the begining, but i am not positive, i overheard them talking about it somewhere :)

[rin]

ah, ok. i also heard someone telling jerry that just something needs to be altered to fit 32bit. i myself am not a programmer so i am in need of professional help. probably this will be useful for many other people who convert from ipb2.0 to vb3.0.3. :)

[Brad]

Its possible, I'm thinking about doing it for my up-coming ipb import but have no decided if I want to store passwords that aren't native to vBulletin yet. If I do I will let you know (import supposed to happen this time next week)

[rin]

wow, thank you. i'd be very thankful if you find a way and let me know how to do it. :)

[Dean C]

Questions about modifying vBulletin's default behaviour and asking about modifications in general, should be posted in General vBulletin Questions. Please read the forum descriptions more carefully in future. I've moved your thread there for you :)

Thanks,
- Dean

[rin]

ok, thanks for moving. :) brad.loo, i now know a couple of other vbulletin customers who would like to obtain the old passwords rather than having to get new ones created for each member. if i can anyhow support you in this case, please tell me how.
and to everyone else who got an idea how this problm can be solved, please write it in here. thank you. :)

[Brad]

We are not doing so on our forum because we don't wish to hack the board every upgrade. I have to import that database tonight (uploading vB3 via ftp now on dail up :( ).

However I still know how to do it and will post the hack sometime soon, I think there will be a big need for it as of today ;)

[rin]

yes, since ipb goes paid only. :) well, thank you for putting the hack online even if you dont need it.
but i got an additional question:

if imported users [old ipb2.0 users] now change their passwords in vbulletin, there should be no problems with future upgrades right? since it is in the vbulletin format? :)

[rin]

hm, i am pushing this topic cause i am eager to import my ipb2.0 into a vbulletin. so, if someone knows how to solve this problem, please help me.
please create a hack or at least tell me the steps i need to do... please...

[rin]

please do not forget me. [i usually do not bump topics, but in this case its so very important to me... :(]

[Jerry]

Yes , I've not forgotton, just working like a loon on a few other things at the moment :)

[Link14716]

Aren't IPB2 password hashes slightly different than vB3 password hashes?

[rin]

hm. i made a decision. i will make the import this evening [ in 7 hours ] even if theres no possibility to have the old passwords imported aswell.

[Jerry]

Aren't IPB2 password hashes slightly different than vB3 password hashes?

Yup, same principle, slightly different implementation.

[Jerry]

hm. i made a decision. i will make the import this evening [ in 7 hours ] even if theres no possibility to have the old passwords imported aswell.

Good plan, I'm working on it now, but having a default vB3 board is much better than hacking it just to get passwords in when its very very simple for users to reset them.

[rin]

ok. i am preparing the final import now. wish me luck. :)

[Jerry]

Right after checking the database and the code, I'm NOT going to release a hack'ed version of the import to import passwords for IPB2.

One of the original design points for impex was to be uninvasive to the target database and in no way alter or damage any data in the source or target database.

This would be a clear breach of that by altering an existing column.

Combined with the fact that for a users to reset a password is an massively simple action.

I'm sure there will be a hack or patch to do it soon, though not from me :)

[Craz786]

Right after checking the database and the code, I'm NOT going to release a hack'ed version of the import to import passwords for IPB2.

One of the original design points for impex was to be uninvasive to the target database and in no way alter or damage any data in the source or target database.

This would be a clear breach of that by altering an existing column.

Combined with the fact that for a users to reset a password is an massively simple action.

I'm sure there will be a hack or patch to do it soon, though not from me :)
Okay.