vB auction?

[jilly]

I would like to see an auction that could be incorporated into the site - where a user could post something up for bid, and other users could bid on it.

Would like to see a way to let unregistered guests bid too, but you must be a registered member to put something up for auction.

As for payment options, i dont know, my brain spins - but if a user could somehow tie their paypal account to their username that would be pretty cool.

Yes, i know we can always use ebay, but it would be nice to have something right on the site, and users wouldnt get distracted by all the other things available at ebay...

[Zachery]

i think the vB trader might do this, take a look at the EvB site :)

[Sal Collaziano]

What is EvB?

[sabret00the]

either vB trader or that new Photopost Classifieds.

www.everythigvb.com www.photoshop.com

[Bro_Joey_Gowdy]

I would like to see an auction that could be incorporated into the site - where a user could post something up for bid, and other users could bid on it.

Would like to see a way to let unregistered guests bid too, but you must be a registered member to put something up for auction.

As for payment options, i dont know, my brain spins - but if a user could somehow tie their paypal account to their username that would be pretty cool.

Yes, i know we can always use ebay, but it would be nice to have something right on the site, and users wouldnt get distracted by all the other things available at ebay...
hmmm... Im looking for something similar to http://www.Ebay.com as well as http://www.nintari.net

Similar to this hack - yet with comments after the sale as well as a default list of items
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=52188

[pbjunkie]

hmmm... Im looking for something similar to http://www.Ebay.com as well as http://www.nintari.net

Similar to this hack - yet with comments after the sale as well as a default list of items
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=52188


Look no further: http://www.vbauction.com/

[HuangA]

I'm definetly looking for something alike as well; but vbauction is a bit on the expensive side... is there a free alternative?

[jmpsmash]

Look no further: http://www.vbauction.com/

anybody tried it? looks quite promising. $120 isn't outrageous but not free either...

[HuangA]

I don't think I have that much sitting around; if it was like 50 or 60 I would've considered; but 120... I'll pass... After all, we're purchasing an addon; not a new license.

[Colin F]

I don't think I have that much sitting around; if it was like 50 or 60 I would've considered; but 120... I'll pass... After all, we're purchasing an addon; not a new license.
It really isn't cheap, but you can't compare it with a new license!

Jelsoft can keep there price so low, because they have so many customers. For a custom piece of coding, prices can also go as high as this, simply because that's the price for the amount of work that's behind it.
Or would you work for 3$ an hour?

[jmpsmash]

It really isn't cheap, but you can't compare it with a new license!

Jelsoft can keep there price so low, because they have so many customers. For a custom piece of coding, prices can also go as high as this, simply because that's the price for the amount of work that's behind it.
Or would you work for 3$ an hour?

tend to agree. the only variable now is the quality of the software. i tried googling vbauction and found zero reference to it. vbauction.com was registered 2 weeks ago and pbjunkie.com was started in march. so very little history behind the software.

unfortunately, there is a zero refund policy. otherwise i wouldn't mind trying it out and let everybody know. now i am not sure if i should risk US$120...

:ermm:

[pbjunkie]

tend to agree. the only variable now is the quality of the software. i tried googling vbauction and found zero reference to it. vbauction.com was registered 2 weeks ago and pbjunkie.com was started in march. so very little history behind the software.

:ermm:

vbAuction uses ultimate auction for the backend. Feel free to stop in and there's plenty of reference to it.

www.ultimateauction.net

[pbjunkie]

I don't think I have that much sitting around; if it was like 50 or 60 I would've considered; but 120... I'll pass... After all, we're purchasing an addon; not a new license.


You are correct. You are purchasing an addon but you might want to look at the features before you pass. Since the backend is ultimateauction ($300-400) I think the quality of the package and the testing that has went into it to make sure you get a bug free addon is well worth the $120 price tag. :)

[vprp]

It really isn't cheap, but you can't compare it with a new license!

Jelsoft can keep there price so low, because they have so many customers. For a custom piece of coding, prices can also go as high as this, simply because that's the price for the amount of work that's behind it.
Or would you work for 3$ an hour?

I agree with this. For one of my sites, I spent about $140 for a user registration/billing script that was well worth it. If you have a large site where an auction may be a popular feature, $120 can more than pay for itself if you decide to charge like eBay does.

[trafix]

You can view the VB Trader at www.ozezyhosting.com .... its cheaper then the vbauction ;)

[jmpsmash]

vbAuction uses ultimate auction for the backend. Feel free to stop in and there's plenty of reference to it.

www.ultimateauction.net

thanks for helping out pbjunkie.

so vbauction is a php frontend to ultimateauction's perl backend?

[pbjunkie]

so vbauction is a php frontend to ultimateauction's perl backend?

Yes. It has been all packaged together and named vbAuction. :)

[pbjunkie]

The reason I went with vbauction is because the backend is "tried and true", it integrates with the post-bit which allows you to get rid of the feedback forum for B/S/T forums. It even permits the member to enter feedback from the B/S/T forums, not just auctions.

Last but not least, show me a package with these features: http://www.vbauction.com/featurelist.html

[HuangA]

trafix, where can I find more info about VB Trader? I went to evb and found only posts about it, but I would like to see a website with more info. Can you please post a link to it? Thanks.

oh, and
would you work for 3$ an hour?
Yes, I would... I'm guessing you're not the WHT type :)

[jmpsmash]

i tried the demo and it lists all the charges as a bill and have the seller pay afterwards. can it charge the seller upfront for the auction fee?

[pbjunkie]

i tried the demo and it lists all the charges as a bill and have the seller pay afterwards. can it charge the seller upfront for the auction fee?

Absolutely! You can edit this in the auction charges section of vbAuction.

[Colin F]

Yes, I would... I'm guessing you're not the WHT type :)

Is that a good thing? :ninja:

I don't mind helping out other people for free or for small fees, but there are also people that live off this (Not saying that's the case here...)
What I want to say is that people underestimate the amount of work that goes into something like this.

[HuangA]

<a href="https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=67672" target="_blank">https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=67672</a>
That's something I'm working on. By the time I'm done with it, I would like to make it free with optional donation. I guess what I want to say is that I'm used to cheap labour, and I guess it may be too much to be expecting the same from the others...

Cheers.

[jmpsmash]

Absolutely! You can edit this in the auction charges section of vbAuction.

can i have different charge schedules for different categories? eg. free for books and 1% for cars, etc.

[pbjunkie]

can i have different charge schedules for different categories? eg. free for books and 1% for cars, etc.

Yes you can set that up in the admin configuration.

[TexasAtvs]

whats the max length of time that a person can list an item? and is there a buy it now button?

[pbjunkie]

whats the max length of time that a person can list an item? and is there a buy it now button?

It goes up to 10 days with the option to automatically re-list 1- 10 times or until sold. Yes, it has a buy now option. There is a buy now option on one of the items at my site: www.pbjunkie.com if you would like to see an example.

[TexasAtvs]

can you also set it to where a user must have a certain number of posts to be able to use the auction?? that way people aren't just signing up for scamming. and what about protecting against multiple user names. Looks like the software is pretty new, are you in anyway affiliated with the company?

[pbjunkie]

can you also set it to where a user must have a certain number of posts to be able to use the auction?? that way people aren't just signing up for scamming. and what about protecting against multiple user names. Looks like the software is pretty new, are you in anyway affiliated with the company?
The software has been around for several years (ultimateauction) so in that aspect it's not new. The integration into vbulletin is new which does not limit members to a certain amount of posts, but there is a black list feature in the user options section where you can prevent users from listing and bidding on items. This feature would cover your privileges and scamming.

I?m only affiliated with the company as a tester of the package and obviously a customer. :)

[memobug]

You can view the VB Trader at www.ozezyhosting.com (http://www.ozezyhosting.com/) .... its cheaper then the vbauction ;)
Could you please be more specific about where people can view VBTrader?

Thanks

Matt

[memobug]

Which version(s) of vB are supported?

I am looking at this but I don't think I will be an early adopter at that price. Maybe if it gets some good feedback from other users.

Regards,

Matt
vbAuction uses ultimate auction for the backend. Feel free to stop in and there's plenty of reference to it.

www.ultimateauction.net (http://www.ultimateauction.net/)

[jmpsmash]

Which version(s) of vB are supported?

I am looking at this but I don't think I will be an early adopter at that price. Maybe if it gets some good feedback from other users.

Regards,

Matt

i was trying to look for feedbacks online. it appears UA has been around since 2001 if not earlier. however, surprisingly there is very little information on it. there are only some short reviews from last year. besides that, there isn't anything at all!

it appears the install base of UA is either not very big or they are very quiet. perhaps the owner should consider setting up a user support forum. a user support forum is the best way to communicate and connect with current and potential customer, just look at vbulletin.com/org!

[memobug]

It looks like there is a forum in the Owner's section - it just isn't a public support forum :(

Welcome to the vbAuction Owner's Section. Through this section you will be able to access the latest versions, updates, and add-ons to vbAuction. You will also get access to support forums, extensive documentation and much more.

Regards,

Matt

[trafix]

For those interested in the VB Trader you can find the new support forums at www.ozezyhosting.com (http://www.ozezyhosting.com) .... the old support forums at www.petnshow.com (http://www.petnshow.com)

or www.everythingvb.com (http://www.everythingvb.com)

PM me if you want more info


It looks like there is a forum in the Owner's section - it just isn't a public support forum :(



Regards,

Matt

[pbjunkie]

Which version(s) of vB are supported?

I am looking at this but I don't think I will be an early adopter at that price. Maybe if it gets some good feedback from other users.

Regards,

Matt

Sorry, I missed this question. Currently supported 3.0.1 and up. I will find out if there are plans to support earlier versions.

[Martyjp]

Hmmm vbtrader isnt finished yet (search function not working) and vbauction looks to still be in beta (the support forums are an interesting read, 2 people have posted and both cant get it to work). Out of the two though vbauction does look the better one, but with out a test site (and the pbjunkie site looking terrible in places) i am leaning towards vbtrader at the moment, but with everythingvb closed finding more out about it is proving hard

[pbjunkie]

where does it look terrible in places? I know there's a few screen's where the color isn't perfect but that's my fault. I'm in the process of learning it and changing it so it reflects my skin.

Other than that, it has worked flawlessly.

[sross]

pbjunkie, I am interested in this app, but can't stomach paying for it and having it not work out. I've been burned before. I bought a phpbb gallery script from this company called "Albinator", it was very invasive to my database and caused constant bizarre intermittent crashes. The support was a total nightmare to top things off, with them finally saying it's your system not our app. I eventually had to uninstall it and things went back to normal but I was out of pocket for the software as they offered "no refund".

You're going to have to show me more than one site running this before I cough up the cash, and I mean running it integrated with vb3 not as ultimate auction. How invasive is this script to my vb3 database? My site gets hammered with activity so if this script is dodgy then I can't go there. Also, i see it imports users from the db, but if it shares the same db as vbe why do you need to import users to it, and do you have to manually import all new accounts too?

thanks

[pbjunkie]

You're going to have to show me more than one site running this before I cough up the cash, and I mean running it integrated with vb3 not as ultimate auction.
thanks

You need to visit vbauction.com and contact the owner for answers to your questions.

[Polo]

does anyone else know of any other auction scripts for vbulletin besides the one that vbauction.com has to offer?

[nexialys]

i've signed a coding agreement with phpauction.org to code a integration script between phpAuction AND vBulletin... i'll keep everyone informed... (for Polo.. ;) )

[allandk]

i've signed a coding agreement with phpauction.org to code a integration script between phpAuction AND vBulletin... i'll keep everyone informed... (for Polo.. ;) )

cool.. i'll take the first version and keep you posted on bugs :o)

[nexialys]

hey hey... bugs... hum.. i don't think there will have any bug... the way we deal with that is that we will create a module for phpAuctions and a integration script for vB, so when you buy any version of phpAuction, you have it integrated, and you just have to hack vB a little to make the integration... so there is no possibility of bugs between the tools... it will be a official and commercial release!

btw, we may have a list of blocks for vBadvanced or other portals, and some blocks for inside vB (à la photopost) so your users can interact with the auctions... but there will be no complete integration of the features in vB, as it would overload the system and be hasardeous.

[allandk]

i would have preferred a GPL solution, but i'll take what i can get :) how long do you think it will take before it's ready ?

[nexialys]

i would have preferred a GPL solution, but i'll take what i can get :) how long do you think it will take before it's ready ?

Hard to have a GPL solution when both the systems are commercial ;)
(i hate GPL... always stuck with strange rules)

btw, the phpAuction GPL will havethat addon, so you pay 20$ for the software and integrate it... it's a basical version but with power though...

and you will not only have the Auctions, but also the Reverse Auctions and the Classifieds ... i build the integration for all systems...

[allandk]

ok that's what i was lookig for.. integration with phpauction GPL.. it's not that i don't want to pay, i just don't want compiled code on my site..

when do you think it will be ready.? apx ?

[StewardManscat]

Clearly this is a powerful and useful system that many are using without issue.

However, I was unable to install it.

I'm a php guy, and don't know mch about perl, nor do I want to. But I have my own server and do run some perl scripts. The people at vbauction seemed ready and willing to help me get it up and running. I gave them all the telnet/ftp info and off they went.

It's a month later. No auction. No replies from vbauction except "Please note that uder the terms of your license you are not entitled to a refund".

[memobug]

Clearly this is a powerful and useful system that many are using without issue.

However, I was unable to install it.

I'm a php guy, and don't know mch about perl, nor do I want to. But I have my own server and do run some perl scripts. The people at vbauction seemed ready and willing to help me get it up and running. I gave them all the telnet/ftp info and off they went.

It's a month later. No auction. No replies from vbauction except "Please note that uder the terms of your license you are not entitled to a refund".
I'd be happy to do whatever I can to help with your setup. You can PM me here with your contact info.

I, too, haven't been very impressed with the vbAuction online support. They did create a "SUPPORT FORUM" to which I posted a lot of information, some questions and bugs, and then came the response post 2-3 weeks later that the forum was not for official support, which had to be requested by email, using the vBauction support ticket system. I was also told that everyone who had requested report had received it, including free installation of their purchased software. Of course, I have no information to support or dispute that.

So, I would recommend that you submit a ticket if you haven't already.

On the positive side, there was an update released a couple of weeks back that addressed all the 12 or so problems that I had reported to that point, with the exception of some issues with the integration and import of users.

Currently, I am unhappy that certain parts of the script pass the username and password right on the command line as part of the URL. Clearly that is a security risk. I have some ideas about addressing that, but I have not invited users to participate in the auctions yet until I get a more thorough analysis going.

Regards,

Matt

[nexialys]

hum... Matt... if you are so interested to deal with phpAuction, i can offer you to join me at some points... the Founder is a friend, and he is ready to "listen" for that kind of updates...

btw, i'm not to give support on phpAuction myself, so their support service is not to be discussed.. it's another question i don't care to answer, because i'm not the one to offer support for the software... i'm just building a integration script that will be integrated to phpAuction itself...

we even don't know yet how to deal with this, as i don't have all the sources... we will see.

if you have requests for features, suggestions of codes etc, just list them.. btw. i will start a new thread about the software once i start coding it.

see ya

[StewardManscat]

Memobug... Thank you for your kind and generous offer. I am familiar with the vbauction forum and your presence there. Your enthusiasm is encouraging.

But I think I'll pass on this one. It was a gamble and I lost. I'm learning how to cut my losses.

If I knew or wanted to learn perl it would be a different story, but facing gnarly perl problems under pressure for a fix... too many other interesting challenges beckon.

Best of luck to the vbauction team. Count me out.

[Polo]

i've signed a coding agreement with phpauction.org to code a integration script between phpAuction AND vBulletin... i'll keep everyone informed... (for Polo.. ;) )

Thanks, I will keep reading this thread as is updated ;)

[chet]

Is the above link for a timed demo as I thought this was a paid hack

Chet

I have removed the link

[nexialys]

thanks Liquid1ce to send the url of a paid software.

I will alert everyone that if you download this software, you will face the license, because you have to register and pay for that release.

BTW: i always found strange to see a software released at a certain price (120$) and integrated to vB, BUT the source itself is from a complete different company, and that company release that software at 4 times the price... ....doesn't it look like code stealing ?! because it takes 2 seconds to see the source;

[Dean C]

The post has been deleted. Please don't post links to paid software again.

[nexialys]

The post has been deleted. Please don't post links to paid software again.

... Dean, Chet have quoted the url and it's not deleted yet..

see ya (and delete that post too!)

[chet]

I have deleted the link now

[Dean C]

My apologies chet, I was not referring to your link as it seemed. A user before you posted a link to a direct download of vBauction which is illegal. I removed his post and it would have seemed to you that's why. My apologies for the confusion :) Please feel free to edit the URL you had there before back in.

[version2]

Do not and I repeat do NOT buy the vbauction software. It is NOT integrated. It is a workaround that even replicates the member tables. Not only that the auction software itself is riddled with bugs. It is EXTREMELY unsecured. There is no error checking/validation. So far we have fixed a grand total of 62 bugs and most of these have been showstoppers.

Buyer beware.

[allandk]

some please contact me to make a working integration with phpauction GPL

[nexialys]

@allandk ... just go on my site (my signature!) for a follow up... we're starting the integration by the week-end.. may take some days, but not weeks...

[allandk]

first customer ready :o)

[Polo]

Do not and I repeat do NOT buy the vbauction software. It is NOT integrated. It is a workaround that even replicates the member tables. Not only that the auction software itself is riddled with bugs. It is EXTREMELY unsecured. There is no error checking/validation. So far we have fixed a grand total of 62 bugs and most of these have been showstoppers.

Buyer beware.

I will take your opinion in consideration

[nexialys]

<a href="http://acmsoft.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=4" target="_blank">http://acmsoft.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=4</a> for the follow up of the phpAuction project. i'd like to have users and future owners suggestions.. maybe we can have more features and interaction if you have ideas to deal with.

we will not continue this discussion here, due to Commercial Content... and Owners demand!

[memobug]

Dear nexialys,

FWIW, I am pretty much interested in what I thought I was buying in the vbAuction featureset. http://www.vbauction.com/featurelist.html It didn't really pan out though because their integration was pretty lame, but live and learn.
BTW, I don't understand why you got all Neanderthal on this guy who was just offering to help

bam (http://acmsoft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=64&postcount=4): Hi,
as a long time owner of phpAuction code, friend of, and helper with development (suggestions, testing), count me in for any help I can give with this project.Bam didn't ask you for any free code or unencrypted source. He just offered to help. That might be testing on your box, or suggestions or whatever. Give the guy the benefit. Anyway I am not going to register over there to get similarly lambasted.

Feel free not to reply if you don't want to (or can't) continue the discussion here, I understand.

Good luck with your project

Matt

[nexialys]

@memobug ... please, next time, forget to use the content of another site to fill your posts...

AND... if you think i'm Neanderthalian, just forget me... i'm not a kid or a teen... my discussions don't concern you if you're not participating.

-- i hate lamers.

[WhisperPntr]

I was interested in an auction script as well... but anyways calling someone a lamer isn't what I'd call mature...

[allandk]

it's being made here http://acmsoft.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=4

[nexialys]

BILL: My kids say: He said to me, and I'm like... and he's like... and she's like...
ROLLINS: It's all... He's all... She's all...
BILL: I can't get behind that kind of like, English!...
i'm not gonna talk about this integration here anymore. received too much comments from non-serious guys that are here only to talk about their omnipotent power to be ...

serious people are able to distinct between commercial and beggar work.

[version2]

...
i'm not gonna talk about this integration here anymore. received too much comments from non-serious guys that are here only to talk about their omnipotent power to be ...

serious people are able to distinct between commercial and beggar work.Are you ever going to shut up? We get it already. You are the master of all code. The engineering king! We bow to your greatness and promise to never question you or offer help. :tired:

[Colin F]

Everyone: deep breath :surprised:

Try to keep it nice and pleasant and please discuss personal problems per PM or email

Thanks :)

[nexialys]

hum.. .btw... full phpAuction is 482$USD, i suppose you will complain because the tool is not free ?!

vbAuction is about 100$... stolen code from another cgi-Auction software that is 260$, and not even able to provide support for their tool, as said by version2 ...

i'm trying to deal with phpAuction guys to lower the code price, just for you... so please, stop pecking on me...

--discussion closed btw!

[Jesse Jericho]

Dunno if this site has been mentioned, if so excuse my ignorance:

http://www.phpbb-auction.com/

I've used it at another site, worked very well.

[maroulis]

^^^^^^ phpBB this is vb.org...