vBJournal for VB3

[spence2]

I think in all fairness, there ought to be some distinctions made here.

When Ryangel fell off the face of the earth, we were all stuck. Wonko the Sane ported it, only to have it banned from vB.org because Ryangel could not be found to grant permission. I pleaded the "nobody can find this guy" argument with Erwin to no avail.

So, I pm'd Wonko the Sane and he posted it on Kurafire's site. From there a lot of people worked very hard & were very generous to share their modifications to his hack. Oblivion Knight & Sabretoothe then posted their versions of this hack on vbhacks.us when Kurafire closed his board.

The distinction that I feel ought to be emphasized here is that yes, a lot other coders promised, hyped and posted about their fabulous plans ... brad.loo's could do the dishes and Kurafire's could walk the dog. Oh, and that fabulous chocolate flavored journal that won't melt in your hand mainly because you're never gonna get your hands on it. We beg. We plead. We suck up. We bow down. And along comes AN-net, and here is the distinction: AN-net is actually coding!

While I'm also frustrated and share your exasperation, I think AN-net deserves more respect for his efforts. He has kept us updated on his progress. He has furnished us with screenshots. He seems genuinely to be developing a journal system for this community ... and seems genuinely committed to share his work with all of us.

I certainly don't want to see AN-net discouraged by posts that seem to equate his efforts with those who for whatever reason are great at boasting and posting, but never quite get around to doing any coding.

[PixelFx]

I think for those are complaining they should just be pacient, since AN-net is releasing this for free. this looks like a great hack, but sometimes life or bread and butter work takes presidence over free stuff we maybe working on for the community.

An-net thanks for taking the time to work on this hack, It will be worth the wait.

[Osterling]

I think for those are complaining they should just be pacient, since AN-net is releasing this for free. this looks like a great hack, but sometimes life or bread and butter work takes presidence over free stuff we maybe working on for the community.

An-net thanks for taking the time to work on this hack, It will be worth the wait.

but again... as i explained to him on aim.. i am understand it's free, and no one is payin him.. but to be constantly giving false dates on when it will be completed.. that isn't fair either

[AN-net]

i understand the frustration you guys feel but my life, work(not coding), clients, and school summer stuff is alot to do and i am trying my best to get this done and i am makign sure there are no bugs cause if i rushed(no offense to zachery or link) it would turn out like ushop did with tons and tons of errors. so i will be beta testing it and making sure it optimal for release.

patience is all i need from everyone;)

[Osterling]

then please don't toy with me.. and give me misleading information, and deadlines that are incorrect ;)

[Reeve of shinra]

I think Spence is on the mark... AN-Net has put alot of effort in to coding this and we can see that simply from the screen shots. I am sure AN-Net didnt even need to let people know that he would be working on it except that alot of people are very interested in this and others either werent able to do it due to time constraints or are simply not releasing the ones they've made.

Right now, there is a journal system on vbhacks.us which works and if a journal is that important to your community, then go with that until AN-Net is finished as it will provide the basics and then some. I can garuntee you that there will converters available shortly after as alot of us plan to migrate.

[Romeos Tune]

Personally, I'm surprised An-Net was so nice after reading all this mess. If you all are that impatient then learn how to code for yourselves or pay someone to do it. Until then you should keep nasty comments to yourself and be patient. Even if it did never happen it didn't cost you a penny so give him a break and let him take his time and get it right.....

[trackpads]

When Ryangel fell off the face of the earth, we were all stuck. Wonko the Sane ported it, only to have it banned from vB.org because Ryangel could not be found to grant permission. I pleaded the "nobody can find this guy" argument with Erwin to no avail.

Even with tradmarks there is a period of time where anyone can claim abandonment to it. Vb.org needs something similar otherwise after a few more years and version 4.0 it is going to get crazy.

An-net, thanks for all your work, I completely understand time constraints and the web.

-Jason

[Osterling]

yet again.. no one seems to comment on my issue..

that fact he keeps providing me missleading/false information... or is that justified because he is doing this for free? i'm sorry.. but i am not upset at the time it is taking, all i am looking for is some upfront honesty, that he cannot seem to provide me..

which... leads me to beleive how much of the journal hack is really completed...

[JamesFrost]

i understand the frustration you guys feel but my life, work(not coding), clients, and school summer stuff is alot to do and i am trying my best to get this done and i am makign sure there are no bugs cause if i rushed(no offense to zachery or link) it would turn out like ushop did with tons and tons of errors. so i will be beta testing it and making sure it optimal for release.

patience is all i need from everyone;)

I didn't mean to cause offense, and I agree with Reeva that there is a difference here in that real code is being produced. Most of us here do not do this stuff full time, but as a hobby (I would guess).

All I'd like to have I suppose is a realistic estimate of when it is going to be ready, taking into account school, work, holidays, etc etc. If you can't give a reasonable estimate, then just let us know that also.

I'm continuing using the current journal hack at the moment, but there is a lot in it that I would tweak if I knew this hack was going to be months away. If it is going to be weeks away, then I'll wait and see how this version looks first.

Keep up the good work - I'm sure it is going to be worth the wait :D

[roundhost]

Now this is something i am intrested in!

/me gives his support

[Osterling]

Said On: Aug 4 (post (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=540000&postcount=196))
i can not say but hopefully will complete it shortly ;)

Today on AIM he told me it would be done shortly, well.. he also said that a little less then a month ago... I have to wonder.. how long shortly is..

Said On: Aug 11 (post (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=542099&postcount=209))

I am going to beta test the journal system on my site shortly after i make the instructions file and installation file. Also as of now the install file will not install templates but it will handle all the necessary SQL queries;)

I will announce when the journal system is setup for public beta test:)

Why would you be talking about creating a installtion file, unless you were close to being ready to release a beta version? And why would you talk about releasing it... if you were not right around the block done?

Said On: Aug 24 (post (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=545982&postcount=240))

have less than a 11 small things to do and then it should be ready for beta;)

But today he told me.. he still had four nesscary, and medium size things to do... well why would he tell me that today, if on Aug 11th he only had a 11 small things?






I think this is a joke... I would advise anyone who wants a journal hack to find a new route, because a LITTLE less then a month ago he was saying it would be done shortly, and today he is still saying that....

I have lost 100% hope in this being completed... I think it sucks, but I would be suprised if he came out BEFORE Christmas. I don't mean to whine, but he keeps saying shortly, I got to wonder how honest his updates are.. and yeah yeah, he sometimes post images.. but liek those couldn't be created..

Too much talk, and not even action I guess..

[Reeve of shinra]

so will be working on your own now? Let us know who it progresses.

[heynurse]

exasko,

You need to relax and stop bashing AN-net, you act as if you are owed something. It's ungrateful people like you that turn off coders who develop hacks. If you have so much time on your hands, stop your whining and learn to code yourself. Maybe you have unlimited time on your hands, but most of us don't, many of these hacks are created in the little free time coders have, they have jobs and lives, their priority is not to please you. Please stop using this thread to whine and bash people who are offering this community hacks, even if it takes longer than you want....

OK, I'm stepping down from my soapbox now. :)

[msimplay]

Said On: Aug 4 (post (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=540000&postcount=196))


Today on AIM he told me it would be done shortly, well.. he also said that a little less then a month ago... I have to wonder.. how long shortly is..

Said On: Aug 11 (post (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=542099&postcount=209))



Why would you be talking about creating a installtion file, unless you were close to being ready to release a beta version? And why would you talk about releasing it... if you were not right around the block done?

Said On: Aug 24 (post (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=545982&postcount=240))



But today he told me.. he still had four nesscary, and medium size things to do... well why would he tell me that today, if on Aug 11th he only had a 11 small things?






I think this is a joke... I would advise anyone who wants a journal hack to find a new route, because a LITTLE less then a month ago he was saying it would be done shortly, and today he is still saying that....

I have lost 100% hope in this being completed... I think it sucks, but I would be suprised if he came out BEFORE Christmas. I don't mean to whine, but he keeps saying shortly, I got to wonder how honest his updates are.. and yeah yeah, he sometimes post images.. but liek those couldn't be created..

Too much talk, and not even action I guess..

i guess theres two lessons here people shouldn't make promises they can't keep
however the second is when u get something for free you should learn to be more patient as the person who gives something for free owes you nothing

[AN-net]

i know i gave dates that were not kept but you kept prying every week asking and asking so i gave date to keep you quiet cause i didnt need to be hassled when im trying to get it done. as of know when its done it done! this is something i have coded and if im a joke so are you, i dont need to be harrassed for being generous. I have coded almost 4,000 lines of code for this hack and you say i am a fake? if your so sure about i didnt do ++++ then you code 4,000 lines of php:P

Oh wait ill assume you cant code php at all, so i would sit and down be quiet.

Now excuse me, i just had to get that off my chest cause i dont enjoy being attacked especially when im being generous.

I apologize for dates not fulfilled but i am not a miracle worker nor a person without a life.

Also important little tid bit of news, i wont be including a report system in this version due to some flood bugs and i wont be doing the last edited by for this version either. sry to those wanting those 2 features but they definately will be in next version.

Thanks for your time and please be patient:)

[Polo]

Thanks AN-net for the update ;)

[Romeos Tune]

I'm kinda glad you got upset..... I don't blame you one bit.... I think you should take steps to limit this to certain people.... lol.... What do you wanna bet that when you release this thing that the people complaining and griping will be amungst the first to install it?? lol Take your time and get it right man and thanks!

[NS_007]

I'm kinda glad you got upset..... I don't blame you one bit.... I think you should take steps to limit this to certain people.... lol.... What do you wanna bet that when you release this thing that the people complaining and griping will be amungst the first to install it?? lol Take your time and get it right man and thanks!
I must say it certainly looks good so far from the shots I have seen. I just HOPE my co-admin/owner also wants this as badly as I do? ;)

Might I make a suggestion to those hackers/coders who are being hounded for a date? This formula works WONDERS on my kids .... (after the whine of "why not now?" "Because I don't FEEL like doing it NOW because you asked me too much" banter)

Take the guesstimated time it will be done, add a month and times it by your age. ;) It pisses them off to NO end yet when they DO finally get it ... they are very happy and surprized!

Being a mom, and HAVING a life ... I know how deadlines can come and go without even seeing them approaching.

Thank you for your time AN-net for your time.


*ps* I am on pins and needles wanting to see this in action (not nessisarily on my own site, but any site) .... it looks amazing.

[Osterling]

You all want to say I am whinning because he hasn't released it, and like I've said so many times to him on AIM... I don't care if you take till Christmas to complete it... as long as I know when you give updates they are honest and he is not being honest.. that is why I am angry.

There have been many hacks I am waiting on, but instead of the coder making false statements they are up front.. and that's all I excpet from people and that isn't much IMO.

So everyone can think I am just whinning because he isn't moving fast, but like I've said so many times.. it's the fact I feel he is not being honest.

[blueuniverse]

exasko, I think we all might like it if you just kept quiet. So he said something and couldn't keep to it. That just means he didn't predict that something was going to happen which maybe kept him back, as AN-Net tried his hardest to solve the problem.

PHP is a very complicated language especially when you are using it to an extent and AN-Net has been very helpful while he made it, showing us what is done and what he is planning to do.

Also in your quote you are quoting the word shortly, and really shortly is a word that is open to interpretation. AN-NET would've been working very hard on it for a long time, and maybe shortly is like a month to him. Even if that isn't the case, he's doing it for free so get off his case and leave him alone to get it finished.

Maybe if you left him alone, then it might happen quicker?

[alastair]

Maybe if you left him alone, then it might happen quicker?

i agree.

[Osterling]

i agree.

Oh.. I'm sorry, a quick IM asking how the hack is comin along.. you guys are right, it's my fault he isn't done on his deadline.. that 5 mins.. damn..

[Halarkin]

Requesting update. My users have been without journals for almost a month. They're going crazy.

[AN-net]

we are in the progess of releasing for public beta on my site. as we speak the journal is successfully installed in my site's database and a install php file has been written for mysql queries. i am currently writing the install.txt file for file edits etc. please be patient because it should be released shortly:)

[trackpads]

we are in the progess of releasing for public beta on my site. as we speak the journal is successfully installed in my site's database and a install php file has been written for mysql queries. i am currently writing the install.txt file for file edits etc. please be patient because it should be released shortly:)
I would rather wait for a good copy that has been thoroughly tested than get a buggy one that will casue me to upgrade multiple times.

Thanks for all your effort man!!

-Jason

[PixelFx]

Twitchs, .. Sounds Great :)!!

[AN-net]

I would rather wait for a good copy that has been thoroughly tested than get a buggy one that will casue me to upgrade multiple times.

Thanks for all your effort man!!

-Jason
actually it has been thoroughly tested, there are almost no bugs at all:) this public beta is to weed all the rest of them out;)

[Polo]

we are in the progess of releasing for public beta on my site. as we speak the journal is successfully installed in my site's database and a install php file has been written for mysql queries. i am currently writing the install.txt file for file edits etc. please be patient because it should be released shortly:)

Awesome AN-net, Im waiting anxiously for the first public release ;)

[9mmPrincess]

Good luck and thank you for the update
*trying to wait patiently*

i cant wait to install this :)

[Halarkin]

If you get it done, I know 25,000 people who would like to thank you personally.

[pipedreams]

I for one, will be more than happy to make a donation to you for all your work! ;)

[AN-net]

ok the journalinstall.php(installer) file is finished and contains an full uninstaller(only for sql queries not templates) which will remove the database tables,revert tables modified, and delete all added phrases;)

[spence2]

If you get it done, I know 25,000 people who would like to thank you personally.

25,001 ;)

[Wordplay]

Where can i get the hack?
If I install this hack. will all threads posted be journal threads, or can users choose whether they want to start a journal or a thread?

[arurcard]

Where can i get the hack?
If I install this hack. will all threads posted be journal threads, or can users choose whether they want to start a journal or a thread?
Dont be a noob, read the thread

[Polo]

ok the journalinstall.php(installer) file is finished and contains an full uninstaller(only for sql queries not templates) which will remove the database tables,revert tables modified, and delete all added phrases;)

thanks for the update ;)

[SNOWCRAZE]

Hey, I think this is a huge deal to vbulletin community and really thanks to AN-net a million times for his find time to doing this. I know cuz I'm flash/director programmer and web design/dev. I did thought abt create journal/blog but when I started to plan and realized it's takes lot of time to get all thing together and that when I knew I might will finish maybe a year while manage my time w/ my life (freelance, job, projects, etc...), ah no time for me to do this... I'm really appreciated you for doing this! I thought maybe you can create a new website that focus on journal/blog for vbulletin, ya know like vbindex at coreforums.net and same time you able to add "donate" somewhere on website for all your work and support? only if you love doing this stuff and have plenty of free time then! Just for a thought. :cool:

Hang in there!

[AN-net]

Well this will take a little longer than i expected, i have started school and being sophmore in this day and age isnt easy:( anyways on top of that im moving hosts so i will have to pospone(sp?) my wrap of this until maybe this weekend since im not working;)

[arurcard]

Well this will take a little longer than i expected, i have started school and being sophmore in this day and age isnt easy:( anyways on top of that im moving hosts so i will have to pospone(sp?) my wrap of this until maybe this weekend since im not working;)
Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please PleasePlease Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please PleasePlease Please PleasePlease Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please
Release this this weekend! :nervous:

p.s. Im a Sophomore too, I know it sucks :(

[Polo]

Well this will take a little longer than i expected, i have started school and being sophmore in this day and age isnt easy:( anyways on top of that im moving hosts so i will have to pospone(sp?) my wrap of this until maybe this weekend since im not working;)

Thanks for the update AN-net ;)

[blueuniverse]

I've read all the thread, but over a huge period of time (e.g. 3 months). How easy will it to be to upgrade this from the journal mod over at vbhacks.us?

[TheComputerGuy]

thanks for the update mate!

[AN-net]

vB Journal is Successfully Installed on my website. You can find it here: http://www.animationation.net/community/journal.php

I have also finished the admincp file and i have added a support link to the file:) i know i said i wouldn't add anymore but it was neccessary:D this support link holds way to get support such as email,aim,offical vbjournal forum, and vbulletin.org thread;)

I only have WOL to work on now so please be patient:)

[Flow Fusion]

Take your time. I look forward to it!

[Reeve of shinra]

Im digging it.

[pipedreams]

Wow - looking very well! - Well done AN-net!! ;)

[Polo]

vB Journal is Successfully Installed on my website. You can find it here: http://www.animationation.net/community/journal.php

I have also finished the admincp file and i have added a support link to the file:) i know i said i wouldn't add anymore but it was neccessary:D this support link holds way to get support such as email,aim,offical vbjournal forum, and vbulletin.org thread;)

I only have WOL to work on now so please be patient:)

wow, that looks extrememly fine ;) please keep us updated

[intrigue]

sounds good to me an-net and it looks awesome.
Good work
.matt

[arurcard]

Release eh?

[msimplay]

that looks excellent , much better than the current journal available for vb2

[Halarkin]

I'm on edge!

[AN-net]

ok well it all comes down to WOL(Who's Online) this the only thing left to edit and some think it is stupid to hold up such a hack for WOL. so i want the opinion of the users. do you want WOL with it now or is it ok if its added later?

[Romeos Tune]

Without who's online........ :D Besides..... We can add that ourselves easy enough...... ;)

[nexialys]

the WOL can be added independantly, so we can add it when it's working.. no need to wait for this stupid bug.. btw, i will check for that bug if i have the hack... !!!

[m0h2]

Without WOL! :)

[AN-net]

ok:)

let me remove the who's online instructions;)

[Reeve of shinra]

cool beans.

[Halarkin]

We're frothing at the mouth!

[PixelFx]

*twitch*

[AN-net]

vB Journal v1.0.0 is now released you can find it here: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=69538

[blueuniverse]

I love you AN-NET!

[y2krazy]

Uber <3!

[arurcard]

Yay!