vB Hacks Open

[Logikos]

We finally decided to open the doors to www.vbhacks.us Tell me what you guys think. For those who don't know who we are, we're a site dedicated to add-on releases for vBulletin. Take a look around. :)

[Xenon]

Very dark skin in my eyes.
also i don't like moseover effects or things like active X popups ^^

[trafix]

So what are you offering that vborg or any of the other hacking sites dont? How are you stopping the piriate from downloading and installing hacks on their unlicened forums?

I sorta agree with Xenon, the style is very dark

[Zachery]

So what are you offering that vborg or any of the other hacking sites dont? How are you stopping the piriate from downloading and installing hacks on their unlicened forums?

I sorta agree with Xenon, the style is very dark
Header is meh, text deosnt look good.


Overall its not so great, and what trafix said.

[lasto]

So what are you offering that vborg or any of the other hacking sites dont? How are you stopping the piriate from downloading and installing hacks on their unlicened forums?

I sorta agree with Xenon, the style is very dark


wheres it say in the LA if he opens a forum and does hacks he must install some sort of system to prevent illegal use of any hacks ?

End of day an admin replied to him and never asked the same question so if you aint staff then basically its none of your business.This is what has been giving this board that rough edge lately where everyone thinks they are in charge when clearly they aint.

If a problem existed im sure Xenon would be quite capable of handling it and even dealing with it.

[Zachery]

Lasto,

Trafix is a rather nice guy, and his concerns are valid :)

[trafix]

wheres it say in the LA if he opens a forum and does hacks he must install some sort of system to prevent illegal use of any hacks ?
Should the LA have to spell that out? NO, prevening illegal use of any hacks should be done out of respect to the developers!

End of day an admin replied to him and never asked the same question so if you aint staff then basically its none of your business.This is what has been giving this board that rough edge lately where everyone thinks they are in charge when clearly they aint.

If a problem existed im sure Xenon would be quite capable of handling it and even dealing with it.
Again.... No, Xenon cant make these decisions, however its possible that he has passed on any conserns to jelsoft privatly.

[Logikos]

So what are you offering that vborg or any of the other hacking sites dont? How are you stopping the piriate from downloading and installing hacks on their unlicened forums?

I sorta agree with Xenon, the style is very dark

People having priated vBulletin boards is none of my conceren. Thats the developers concern (Jelsoft). My only concern is that my board is legit, which it is. So far i have obeyed by the LA and continue to do so.

About the style: I do plan on making a lighter style for the site as well. Im in the middle of making a style now.

[filburt1]

No disrespect intended, but you clearly were "inspired" by the current set of forums here. Competition with a site of tens of thousands of members was not necessarily the best use of your $160.

[Logikos]

No disrespect intended, but you clearly were "inspired" by the current set of forums here. Competition with a site of tens of thousands of members was not necessarily the best use of your $160.

Im in no way in competiton with vb.org. I love vb.org and my 2 other boards would be no where with out vb.org. About how i spend my money is really none of your business.

Gotta run for a bit, will be back soon.

[Logikos]

So what are you offering that vborg or any of the other hacking sites dont?

I would like to comment on that if i may. Our goal at www.vbhacks.us is to create a hacks site driven around the users. We want the users feedback in what they would like to see developed for the site and there ideas in how they would like to see the site run.

We dont feel we should rule like admins do on most other sites. This site is here for the users. We feel that the users should have an extemely important role in what goes on there. We want the users to feel as if this is a site where they can come and be themselfs and get the help they need. We want them to be able to tailor things around them unlike on most sites.

[trafix]

\[]emesis']I would like to comment on that if i may. Our goal at www.vbhacks.us is to create a hacks site driven around the users. We want the users feedback in what they would like to see developed for the site and there ideas in how they would like to see the site run.

We dont feel we should rule like admins do on most other sites. This site is here for the users. We feel that the users should have an extemely important role in what goes on there. We want the users to feel as if this is a site where they can come and be themselfs and get the help they need. We want them to be able to tailor things around them unlike on most sites.
We dont feel we should rule like admins do on most other sites
There is nothing new or special there. In the last 3 weeks 3 hacking sites have been launched and I have lost track of the amount of hacking sites launched in the last 6 months.

I'm sorry but you have not convinced me or given me any other form of reason for me to register with your site.

[Logikos]

There is nothing new or special there. In the last 3 weeks 3 hacking sites have been launched and I have lost track of the amount of hacking sites launched in the last 6 months.

I'm sorry but you have not convinced me or given me any other form of reason for me to register with your site.

Well registering on vbhacks.us is completely optional. I would love to see you join. But like i said, 'optional' no harm done if you or anyone eles don't. :)

[lasto]

first of all trafix - a day later i read my post and it does sound like it has attitude but it was`nt meant to so sorry if it did.Maybe i needed to re-word it thats all

but what i meant was if a supermarket opens in town and sells everything - does that mean the small shops cant do business ?

I see your point about piracy etc but its an old one and everyone uses it - lets face it - regardless of what is available out there vb.org will always be the motherboard where everything is posted and support on here is second to none so if smaller boards spring open they aint taking nothing away from here but in my view its still nice to see them.
Also if vb.org never wanted other boards to do hacks im pretty sure they would of included a clause somewhere along the line saying `you may not distribute hacks`.

[noppid]

\[]emesis']We finally decided to open the doors to www.vbhacks.us Tell me what you guys think. For those who don't know who we are, we're a site dedicated to add-on releases for vBulletin. Take a look around. :)

I like the idea.
I like the style.
I like the people I've met so far there.

Excellent job!

[Boofo]

The hacks for download there won't include the ones from here, right? I don't want mine on there. ;)

[Logikos]

The hacks for download there won't include the ones from here, right? I don't want mine on there. ;)

If you don't release it there, then they won't be there.

[Boofo]

Then I say go for it and I wish you the best of luck! ;)

I don't think I would base the whole board on that, though. Maybe have some other areas to fall back on. ;)

[Logikos]

Then I say go for it and I wish you the best of luck! ;)

I don't think I would base the whole board on that, though. Maybe have some other areas to fall back on. ;)
Thanks for the suggestions Boofo :) Will take in consideration.

[Boofo]

\[]emesis']Thanks for the suggestions Boofo :) Will take in consideration.

We also write our own hacks on our site but I would never depend on just that. I want a variety of users. ;)

[eXtremeTim]

I strongly believe that this site will grow. I would hope that you all will be willing to look at the site latter on after I have more time to really start scripting the stuff for it. I have some great ideas that I havent seen on any hack release site yet. So please just be patient and check in every now and then and let us know what you think. As livewire already stated were not here to compete with vb.org.

[AWS]

I strongly believe that this site will grow. I would hope that you all will be willing to look at the site latter on after I have more time to really start scripting the stuff for it. I have some great ideas that I havent seen on any hack release site yet. So please just be patient and check in every now and then and let us know what you think. As livewire already stated were not here to compete with vb.org.
I agree with you. The attitudes of some of the people in this thread and most other threads from the last year will drive users to other hack sites.

[Logikos]

So what are you offering that vborg or any of the other hacking sites dont?

Ummm, for starters; LockDown Hack and Advance Super Forums. ^^

[Wifey]

Hey traffix - there are lots of other hacking sites? I'd love to know where to find them. Of course, I guess that it's pretty much just the same rotation of hacks for the most part.

I like vBhacks.us, I think it's nice. Smaller, but nice just the same. I like darker themes, so it works for me :)

[Logikos]

Thanks alot ashly glad to have the support.

[DrkFusion]

Better than vB.org hands down. Truly the users are in control there, and it is a very FUN community (from what I have observed).

Good job guys, keep up the work, and you can be sure as I find time will transition my time to your board.

[Logikos]

Thanks alot DrkFusion. Got some nice things in the making, and were trying to bring all request to life.

[AN-net]

wasnt vbhosting banned from this site if im not mistaken?

[Link14716]

The "Featuring Lockdown and ASF" thing in the header just tells me to keep away.

[FASherman]

Lasto,

Trafix is a rather nice guy, and his concerns are valid :)

I respectfully disagree. The only one who has any stake in restricting the so-called pirate copies is Jelsoft. Thats their job. Don't look for the rest of us to do it.

[Zachery]

I work for jelsoft, my concerns are valid :)

[Logikos]

The "Featuring Lockdown and ASF" thing in the header just tells me to keep away.
lol whys that Matt? Having the hack isn't illegal, either one of them ;) Jelsoft has alot of people rather scared for some reason. But i'm still up and will continue to stay up.

[Logikos]

I work for jelsoft, my concerns are valid :)What is there to be concerned about? I'm not handing zip files of vb. I'm simply supporting that wants support from vbh.

[Logikos]

wasnt vbhosting banned from this site if im not mistaken?
Yes both vbhosting and lockdown was banned from vb.org. Well acully vbhosting hasn't been officially banned 'yet'.

[FASherman]

I'm kind of excited to see how I can get Advance Super Forums working together with VB3Nuke after I release it. Imagine how powerful the two together would be? Creating subforums AND giving them a unique portal page. Much coolness.

[13th_Disciple]

community == atmosphere.. not attitude.. too much attitude here from some folks.. and others, who offer somewhat valid comments towards users asking for help sometimes end up acting like an ass the other 99% of the time..

the site looks good to me.. i ain't a stylist, per se.. but it's a bought style and it looks nice as long as it won't be found anywhere else..

the lockdown hack and vbhosting hack are probably what will influence my registering.. i have been there a couple of times to watch the site.. and it is steadily growing..

also, people speak of "all these hacking sites".. as if they are concerned they will detract from vb.org, yet they expressly support one of these sites in particular, evb.org.. because of that, it is a truly irritating hypocracy that flows through the veins of a ton of folks here.. i just renewed my license for one more year.. i can assure Jelsoft, with 100% certainty, it is NOT because of helpful people, it is not because of the community involved with vb.org.. it is solely because of the software itself.. the community here sux these days.. and the attitude, and atmosphere, here, detracts directly from what the software promotes as it's main claim.. instant community.. i never noticed hostility in the banner or on the jelsoft/vb.com site.. i reckon that's a between the lines kind of read..

i will say though, folks wanted to know a way to change that atmosphere around here in a thread within the forums under site suggestions, i think it was.. i gave a decent answer, an yet no one would even reply to the idea.. even to say it is not an option.. i reckon sometimes it's easier to ignore than it is to deal with something.. i may not have been a member here for very long, but i can asure you, it is not a place where i recommend hanging out.. it is only a place i recommend for downloading hacks and leaving..

of all of the hacks i have ever used and even so much as asked questions on, it is NTLDR that has helped me to understand what i needed to understand.. and it has only been NTLDR and his hack that has kept me using vBulletin this long.. the forums software is great.. the attitude behind those claiming community and support behind the idea suck..

[Link14716]

\[]emesis']lol whys that Matt? Having the hack isn't illegal, either one of them ;) Jelsoft has alot of people rather scared for some reason. But i'm still up and will continue to stay up.
It has nothing to do with their legality. But linking to hacks in bright colors on every single page just because vB.org doesn't allow them is annoying. I don't agree with them not being allowed at vB.org, but that isn't the point.

Also the fact that you aren't even trying to stop pirates from being abke to access hacks just means I won't be releasing my hacks there

[Logikos]

It has nothing to do with their legality. But linking to hacks in bright colors on every single page just because vB.org doesn't allow them is annoying. I don't agree with them not being allowed at vB.org, but that isn't the point.

Also the fact that you aren't even trying to stop pirates from being abke to access hacks just means I won't be releasing my hacks thereI don't have them linked in bright colors to get back at vb.org. Its there to simply show users that we have 2 very demanding hacks that cannot be found very eaisly.

Also, you talk like these pirates are some low life kids/criminals. Guess what Matt Maybe you?ve forgotten to register WinZip after your 30 day trial has run out? Or maybe you just happened to download a MP3 file of an artist you really adore? Guess what? You?re one of those criminals who are automatically bad and should prompty disappear off the surface of the world, so we could all enjoy a happy, friendly life.

I don't support pirates or warez, but i will not turn a member away from getting supprt for something they need support for. If they have a illagal copy of vB, what can i do to stop them? Shut my site down? Do you really think that will stop them. No. They will just look eleswhere for support.

Well, let's face it, 90% of us are using some kind of illegal software (according to most computer magazines at least). Hiding/ignoring the truth isn't exactly freedom of speech, so why should we really ignore it when everyone KNOWS things are like this anyway? Of course, (almost) all professional software developers are allergic to warez for reasons, but there's really nothing that can be done about it.

People download warez/pirated software fairly easily these days, and while we will not distribute/link to warez/pirated software, I could accept that they could get talked about. For example, if someone asks for help with the 3D Studio MAX renderer because his "illegal" version always crashes when he wants to render an animation, I think we should help him out. If we just tell him that we don't accept warez/pirated software, he will most certainly leave the board and look for another one. And remember that this person is most likely not exactly a bad guy, no more evil than any of us, so what we did was to send a perfectly fine member somewhere else.

What are the chances of that "The User" will acually say he is running pirated board. What are the chances that "The User" will actually cease and desist to use warez just because we tell him that we don't allow it? I'm sure it's not the first time he has heard it, and as I already mentioned, he will just leave and look somewhere else.

Warez/Pirated Software are not going to stop unless the developers physically find a way to make software a lot more secure in general. DVD's used to be very secure until someone cracked their encryption, and it might only be a matter of time before CD Keys/Credit cards are no longer a threat to those who want to play MMO games free of charge.

In closing, not realeasing your hacks on vBh won't really stop anyone from getting priated software. The site will continue to grow, hacks will continue to be released, and the users will continue to get support. I'm not forceing you too join, or anyone in that matter. If you like the site, and or have suggetions for the site then i encourage you to join and give us a hand. I don't run the site, the users do. And i will stick to that till the end.

Sorry its a touchy subject for me, and don't take anything personal. I like everyone and hold no gruges agaist anyone and or anything.

[Logikos]

the site looks good to me.. i ain't a stylist, per se.. but it's a bought style and it looks nice as long as it won't be found anywhere else..
Hey Hey I didn't buy that style. Took me like 10 mins to do. :p

[Spitfireisgod]

The way you have your boards arranged reminded me of a message board I view...

...oh wait

[Logikos]

The way you have your boards arranged reminded me of a message board I view...

...oh wait
Not getting your joke...

[AN-net]

i think he means vbulletin.org

[lasto]

I work for jelsoft, my concerns are valid :)

a r a mod on a jelsoft board no more no less.You do good stuff zach and i wont knock u for that.But there is some interesting points raised here once again.
Anyway while we on the subject of hacks etc - i really dont know why jelsoft got a mood on over it cause the hack is a good one and if they never released it,who would cause till this day i have heard or read nothing on this board from Jelsoft regarding what they where gonna do with the hack.Last i heard it was still in the lawyers hands and then the threads where closed hoping to kill the conversation off but it never it just went elsewhere.

Now my bit about other boards doing hacks - let em all do em who really cares - a hack is a hack end of the day its the license we are buying not the modified code so please remember that as end of day if jelsoft revokes our license then these hacks that everyone seems so uptight about are basically useless.

Now to concerns about attitude on vb.org.To be honest i think its a bit of them versus us kind of thing when their really is no need for it.We seem to be spending more time getting on each others back than we do actually trying to get on with one another.
Answer this - any complaint thread always gets a lot of replies to it,now u show me one Help thread where the replies go over 2-3 pages ?
People are born to moan and its our privledge to whine :) but serious we need to keep it off the board and get back to where we once where.Helping one another out so we all can benefit from what we come here for and that is hacks and most times for me HELP.

End of the day this may be a Jelsoft board and we have to respect that and their rules but is`nt this site for hacks,so should`nt the members get the hacks they want if they really want them and not be told what they can install and not install.
I will give Jelsoft the ASF hacks cause regardless of how it looks it could do them damage in the pocket if it was expanded upon but the lockdown hack does not affect this board in any way and if was released here could be improved upon in many ways that would give it more use`s than what this board claims its use`s are for.

Ok waffle over the microwave dinner is ready :)

[Mickey19781978]

I still like it

I find nice items on vbhacks.us that i just can't that easy outside of that forum

Great initiative if you ask me
and as far as the whole pirate thing goes....
They are there and they always will be
but there is nothing he or anyone else can do about it

[Dark_Wizard]

I have supported other hacking sites and will continue to do so and I have already registered on vbhacks. One thing I need to ask you Live Wire...I see that some hacks on your site posted by your members are those that are authored by someone else, although the credit is there I would state in your forum rules that they must have the authors explicit permission and indicate that in the thread, this will help keep your site going and respectable. Good luck!

[GeekyDesigns]

I still like it

I find nice items on vbhacks.us that i just can't that easy outside of that forum

Great initiative if you ask me
and as far as the whole pirate thing goes....
They are there and they always will be
but there is nothing he or anyone else can do about it
You find some nice hacks at vBhacks.us as most of their hacks there are the ones that at one point either werent allowed here, or currently are not allowed here due to the fact they can violate your license. :)

[Dark_Wizard]

You find some nice hacks at vBhacks.us as most of their hacks there are the ones that at one point either werent allowed here, or currently are not allowed here due to the fact they can violate your license. :)

I wouldn't say your statement helps vbhacks based on this => "due to the fact they can violate your license"....

[Logikos]

I wouldn't say your statement helps vbhacks based on this => "due to the fact they can violate your license"....
Well no hack that is posted on vBhacks.us can violate your license. Acually let me rephrase that. Any hack can have those intentions, even the default features in vB3 can violate your license.

Hey dark abuot the hacks being ripped. That has been brought to my attention and they are no longer there. I don't own the site anymore, so my time on there is limited. But i just promoted my mods to S. Mods to handle things like that while im away. Thanks for the heads up.

[Zachery]

Well no hack that is posted on vBhacks.us can violate your license. Acually let me rephrase that. Any hack can have those intentions, even the default features in vB3 can violate your license.

Hey dark abuot the hacks being ripped. That has been brought to my attention and they are no longer there. I don't own the site anymore, so my time on there is limited. But i just promoted my mods to S. Mods to handle things like that while im away. Thanks for the heads up.
Might want to re-read the license agreement sometime :)

[Cold Steel]

Hey traffix - there are lots of other hacking sites? I'd love to know where to find them.
http://www.vbulletinresources.com/index.php?PID=2

There's nine, above. If you know of any more, please let me know.

[noppid]

Might want to re-read the license agreement sometime :)

If you have a point to make, make it. A cute remark is only irritating.

[Logikos]

Might want to re-read the license agreement sometime :)
I have it framed on my wall. I read it everynight before i go to sleep. Is there something i missed?

[noppid]

I have it framed on my wall. I read it everynight before i go to sleep. Is there something i missed?

Typical .org crap. It will be a cold day in hell before we see professionalism like someone making an actaul point rather then peanut gallery comments.

I thought the re-org here was supposed to institute professionalism. I guess they missed the mark.

I'm still wondering what was misinterpruted and has to be cleared up.

[Dean C]

I'm sorry but what does a comment of one user have to do with vBulletin.org noppid? A note to everyone from here on. Please be polite - it only makes for a happier and more enjoyable place if we bite our bottom lip from time to time :)

[Ryan Ashbrook]

As I am one of the Super Moderators at vBhacks.us, I go around making sure no hacks are ripped/stolen/re-branded.

We, as moderating team at vBhacks, take steps to prevent things like License Violation, Hack Ripping, etc. are not taking place in the boards. When the question comes up "is this hack available here?" we either point them to the thread it's in, or we point them in the right direction as to where the hack is located. If we find anything being illegally distributed through our forums, we remove it no question.

I'm sorry but what does a comment of one user have to do with vBulletin.org noppid? A note to everyone from here on. Please be polite - it only makes for a happier and more enjoyable place if we bite our bottom lip from time to time

I have to agree here, professionalism is not only based upon the staff, but on the consumers as well.

Might want to re-read the license agreement sometime

But, in this case, this is not the behavior I expect to see from a Jelsoft Employee. I have to read the License Agreement everytime I download vBulletin, which has been twice in the past week, I might add, I even read it occasionally when I have nothing else to do. If you're going to make a statement, such as this one, bring your point across instead of leaving us stranded and clueless as to what you're talking about.

[noppid]

I'm sorry but what does a comment of one user have to do with vBulletin.org noppid? A note to everyone from here on. Please be polite - it only makes for a happier and more enjoyable place if we bite our bottom lip from time to time :)

OK since none of the team is able to comprehend this I'll explain.

A mod here, which in my opinion is a represetative of vBulletin, Told someone to review the license agreement because he apparently misunderstood it. As a matter of professionalism, instead of being general, this person should have noted the posters mistake and quoted the license to correct him. If there was a point to be made, it should have been made as an example to all in a professional manner with the facts.

Instead he made a smart ass remark of insinuation. Are we to guess what was being misunderstood? This shows the mentality of a competitive teenager in my opinion that should not represent a product they are not qualified to speak on or not articulate enough to discuss.

This is the way it was here before Wayne took over and the mentality prevails apparently. This is a club, do as we say or be gone. And BTW guess what we mean. Can't anyone speak straight instead of engaging in childish banter?

Now It's CYA time I presume?

[Jolten]

You really need to fix your skin... it's probably one of the worst I've ever seen. Just go into the registration process and try to read anything....

[Dean C]

noppid - Zachery is not a mod here. Just reading through the thread again I don't think that Zach's comment was rude and he could have quoted the license agreement but I don't believe it was necessary. I believe Zach was referring to the vBhosting modification which is now against the vBulletin license agreement. If you have any concerns regarding the conduct of any user here feel free to contact me privately and I'll be more than happy to discuss it with you. However, I don't wish to distort the purpose of this thread which is to give feedback on vbhacks.us :) So on that note I'll leave the invitation to talk about this further in private if you wish :)

Regards,
- Dean

[noppid]

Zachery
vB.com Team

[Tigga]

Should the LA have to spell that out? NO, prevening illegal use of any hacks should be done out of respect to the developers!100% agreed. Though I guess that's just my personal opinion and of course different people have different opinions and morals.

[Zachery]

Zachery
vB.com Team
Yes, i am a member of the vBulletin.com team, and vBulletinTemplates, not a vBulletin.org moderator.

[Beermonster]

No disrespect to anyone here but people are going on about how will you protect the hacks from unlicensed users, well if vb.org can't do it how can others?

I've seen forums where people request hacks from specific threads on here and someone will get them, let's not think that this is some sort of super secure site because it's not, if hackers want a hack they will get it, end of story.

Live Wire good luck on your site m8, everyone here wants to make a successful site and your no different, and again no offense to vb.org but it's good to have somewhere to go that's not affiliated with Jelsoft, and not to have some crew members that feel they are above the rest, and that's not a criticism it's just an observation.

[Dark_Wizard]

vBhosting modification which is now against the vBulletin license agreement.

Dean C...where is this statement from Jelsoft? I would like to know for future reference, thx!

[Logikos]

I was about to ask that same question. I don't remember anyone from Jelsoft stating that, 'vBhosting is no longer allowed and has been banned forever'. This is what i remember:

This hack has been removed while its legality is investigated. If it is determined to be within the license, it will be returned.

[Dean C]

I'll look into it for you :)

[Dark_Wizard]

I'll look into it for you :)

Thx!

[Dean C]

Ok well after a little digging it seems that it's against the license agreement to use the vBhosting modification. However it's not against the license to distribute the modification. I hope that's cleared it up a little more for everyone. :)

Cheers,
- Dean

[Dark_Wizard]

Ok well after a little digging it seems that it's against the license agreement to use the vBhosting modification. However it's not against the license to distribute the modification. I hope that's cleared it up a little more for everyone. :)

Cheers,
- Dean

Actually this doesn't clear things up. If this is official from Jelsoft it should be outlined somewhere...can you please post us a link? Thx!

[Dean C]

It was discussed behind the scenes. Contact Wayne Luke if you wish to clarify it further :)

[Dark_Wizard]

It was discussed behind the scenes. Contact Wayne Luke if you wish to clarify it further :)

Hmmm, wouldn't it be better if this was added to the EULA or at least posted somewhere instead of "behind the scenes"? Think of it this way, at least it would be open for public viewing and no one can say they didn't know....

[Dean C]

Well I'm not the one who makes these decisions and I have no influence over them unfortunately :)