SigmaChat Complete Integration & Authentication

[Grim77]

Hack Info
Name: SigmaChat Complete Integration & Authentication Add-on
Version: 2.0.0
Author: Chris Duerr, RaiderSoft
First Introduced: 28 Mar. 2004
Last Modified: 15 Nov. 2004
Compatability: vBulletin 3.0.x

Overview
This addon allows you to fully integrate a SigmaChat Java? Chat Room (free or paid service; Platinum or Enterprise required for full functionality) with your vBulletin 3.0.x forum system, including the ability to authenticate access via your vBulletin forum system, and provide a "Who's Chatting" page list showing who is currently logged into your chat room.

Features Chat room integrates via a single link in your vBulletin forum navigation bar, or via a forum link.
Chat room may be placed in it's own vBulletin page, and/or as a popup window.
Automatic user login option.
Remote authentication script allows you to authenticate access into your chat room via your vBulletin user database.
Complete control over which user groups are allowed access, allowed administrative access, or denied access.
Real time "Who's Chatting" page allows you to show which users are currently in your chat room by interfacing with SigmaChat's "Who's Online Module" system.
Makes use of vBulletin's template and phrase system for easy modification, and multilingual operation.
Show who is chatting from your forums main page
Automatic chat integration with your vBulletin user profiles, email, PM, etc..

Installation
Installation will require between 15 to 30 minutes of your time depending upon your proficiency in installing addons to vBulletin. Download the attached 'sigmachat.zip' file, and load the INSTALL.html file in your web browser for detailed instructions.

RaiderSoft may be able to assist you with installation should you require it. Please contact us for details.

Support
Support is provided by RaiderSoft for this script provided you have a Platinum or Enterprise SigmaChat account. Read the included instructions for details. I'll be happy to answer questions here as well regarding the script.

Screenshots are attached :)

The all new extension for vBulletin 3.5 has been released. For more information, please visit this link (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=93833) .

Download: VB3SC7_2.0.0.zip (http://forums.raidersoft.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26) or download using the download link in the upper-right hand corner of this message.

[Preech]

I've been waiting on this for the longest time.
Finally I can put my $75 to very, very good use.
Thank you so much Grim.

[sross]

wow, been waiting for this too. it would be great if you could mouseover the 'chat' link and a list of who's chatting dropped down, but that's probably not possible. I'll move the who's chatting link to the chat link though. Is there a way to have a line of text on the forum index that says "x number of users are currently in the chat", I'm wary of using that option from other chat rooms because they never seem to update properly. Anyway, will look into this chat program now. thanks!

[Preech]

Damn.
How much extra would I have to pay for the platinum account. I have the one right before Platinum and my chat-room doesn't show up any more now.

[joeychgo]

mine doesnt show up now either - and im on the free acct -- i tried to put it in a forum and all i get is a gray screen -- althought i do get the welcome sound all i get on the screen is this (screenshot)

[SVTBlackLight01]

Is there an issue with the different account levels?

I have had the SigmaChat (free) integration installed on vb2 and vb3 (not with this particular hack), and there have been issues of being able to connect to the chat room from some locations, particularly from network systems which may be caused by a firewall. Or is this a totally different issue?

[joeychgo]

I think it is totally different cause I had no troubles with the chatroom before isntalling this hack

[Vb-Hispano]

is very good¡¡¡

thanks

[Grim77]

A few of you have private messaged me saying the hack doesn't work -- ironically, it's working perfect for me :) The problem appears to be an issue with the Java Virtual Machine. The Microsoft version (MVM) is not working and shows a gray screen (this is because we're using 100% x 100% in the table for the applet width/height) although the Sun JVM works perfectly.

I've uploaded a new version of the hack to correct this problem. For those of you who installed v1.0.0, simply replace the sigmachat_embed and sigmachat_popup templates with the templates attached to this posting.

[joeychgo]

Nope -- didnt work

[Grim77]

Nope -- didnt work

I looked at your site -- it doesn't look like you replaced the sigmachat_embed template -- still the old code.

[joeychgo]

Ok, im an idiot. :) thanks

I looked at your site -- it doesn't look like you replaced the sigmachat_embed template -- still the old code.

[kyrnel]

If I may, reitterate a previously asked question:
Is there a way to display the number of users in the chat room from a vB page?

I have integrated about 5 different chat systems and I have found that MANY more members will enter chat if they see that someone is already in there.

[Grim77]

If I may, reitterate a previously asked question:
Is there a way to display the number of users in the chat room from a vB page?

I have integrated about 5 different chat systems and I have found that MANY more members will enter chat if they see that someone is already in there.Yes, see the fourth screenshot and the feature listing:
Real time "Who's Chatting" page allows you to show which users are currently in your chat room by interfacing with SigmaChat's "Who's Online Module" system.

Presently; however; this hack does not provide an option to embed thee Who's Online Module on every VB page, or as a hover popup as previously asked.

[kyrnel]

Yes, see the fourth screenshot and the feature listing:


Presently; however; this hack does not provide an option to embed thee Who's Online Module on every VB page, or as a hover popup as previously asked.
Thank you very much for the reply. I very much like this integration and the Who's Chatting is great, however, I have a specific requirement to be able to display just the number of people chatting on my forum's main page. This is further complicated by the fact that I get over 1,000,000 hits on the main page per month so the script generating the number of users chatting would be best if it wrote the number to a static file on a specified interval instead of querying each time the page was loaded.
Do you think this type of modification to your integration hack is possible?

[dirtymerc]

When I attempt to download the zip file it seems to be corrupt.

[joeychgo]

Which installations does the 'whos online' feature work with?

[Grim77]

That's odd. It was working fine earlier, now it seems to be getting cut off -- I wonder if the vBulletin.org team is making updates or something. I've reuploaded the file twice, and although it uploads fine (shows the correct filesize and everything looks OK) when I attempt to download it, it gets truncated as well.

Try this link: sigmachat101.zip (http://support.raidersoft.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=3976)


When I attempt to download the zip file it seems to be corrupt.

[Grim77]

Which installations does the 'whos online' feature work with?

Do you mean which editions of SigmaChat? You'll need either a Pro., Platinum, or Enterprise edition for this. I'd recommend getting at least the Platinum edition for the free allowence of Who's Online hits. It's all discussed in the FAQ in INSTALL.html in the addon download (http://support.raidersoft.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=3976). With the Platinum you can make use of every feature in the hack.

[joeychgo]

you know, its just my opinion - but its not too smart to restrict features that would help make a chat room's popularity within a website - many of us start with the free one to test popularity - and if my members cant see whos in they might not bother to go in - and if people arent using it, why should I buy a better one? Give us 2 months of full features to test if it is worthwhile for us - you'll sell alot more.

Just my .02

[mello_mike]

Great script!! I just clicked installed

[Grim77]

you know, its just my opinion - but its not too smart to restrict features that would help make a chat room's popularity within a website - many of us start with the free one to test popularity - and if my members cant see whos in they might not bother to go in - and if people arent using it, why should I buy a better one? Give us 2 months of full features to test if it is worthwhile for us - you'll sell alot more.

Just my .02

My .02:

The free service comes with 100 free Who's Online hits, so you can use it to test out, but only for a short while before you'd need to upgrade. I think we offer a pretty competitive piece of software in both price and feature set, and our user satisfaction is very high. The free service provides the basic functionality you'd need to determine if our chat software would work well for you. The applet is the smallest that I'm aware of, and we use top notch major network centers to ensure reliable uptime. Most of RaiderSoft's business is word of mouth referral. We've always offered one-time, two week trial upgrades to those who ask (just e-mail support@raidersoft.com with your account ID number and the service you're interested in).

For those of you concerned about having an unused chat room, I recommend announcing specific chat event dates/times to build support for your new chat room. :)

[Grim77]

Great script!! I just clicked installed

Cool! Great to hear! :)

[SVTBlackLight01]

Grim77,

Have you heard of any issues concerning the problem I mentioned earlier?

[Grim77]

SigmaChat uses a real TCP port (it is not an HTTP hack like PHP based chat solutions) and requires a TCP socket connection, so some environments with strict firewall settings may have issues, and need to change their firewall settings for use with the applet. Our server status page at http://support.raidersoft.com/ can provide you with the firewall details if neccesary for your chat room. For the vast majority, this isn't an issue.

Grim77, Have you heard of any issues concerning the problem I mentioned earlier?

[SVTBlackLight01]

I'm sure that's the problem then. The problem occurs for me when I'm at work. We are on a large network and they have a very, very strict firewall.

[ChrisBaktis]

Ok I have installed this hack and the chat room works, whos chatting works - one problem though...when in the chat area if I click on a drop down menu in the navigational bar the list goes behind the chat room not in front. How can this be corrected?

Chris

www.rustysoaptraders.com

[Grim77]

This problem is specifically mentioned in the FAQ section of the installation file. The problem relates to how web browsers render objects and applets, and currently there is no fix. There is one work around that works on one or two major browsers that works by shadowing a dynamically placed inline frame with the DHTML content (i.e., the menu) but is not a cure-all. For instance, it will not work on Macs.

If anyone is interested in releasing a VB mod to cure this (it's a little out of the scope of this hack) the only reference you'd need is here (http://secretlabs.thesafebox.com/DivOverApplet/#).

For now, I definitely advise using the popup method if you'd like a link in the navbar. This also allows your visitors to browse your forum simultaneously while they chat :)

Ok I have installed this hack and the chat room works, whos chatting works - one problem though...when in the chat area if I click on a drop down menu in the navigational bar the list goes behind the chat room not in front. How can this be corrected?

Chris

www.rustysoaptraders.com

[SVTBlackLight01]

The pop-up may be the best way to go now.

Another quick work around that I did was to make the chat window collapsible. It's not the best solution, but it allows for the display of the pop-up menu.

[Grim77]

Good idea! I wonder if there is a way to make it automatically collapse when the a menu is opened from the navbar, and automatically expand when the menu is no longer in use (?)

The pop-up may be the best way to go now.

Another quick work around that I did was to make the chat window collapsible. It's not the best solution, but it allows for the display of the pop-up menu.

[ChrisBaktis]

thanks for the info - went pop up and actually like that better...thanks again.

[admiralapril]

Thank you. This is just what I needed. I didn't get the 'Who's Chatting' to work (authentication error?), but it's no big deal.

[SVTBlackLight01]

I have noticed something else that the other Sigma Chat integration hacks had that doesn't seem to be included with this one.

In the other hacks if someone wasn't logged in or not registered and tried to access the chat room they were redirected to the log in screen. Can this be done here or did I just miss that somewhere?

[SVTBlackLight01]

I have noticed something else that the other Sigma Chat integration hacks had that doesn't seem to be included with this one.

In the other hacks if someone wasn't logged in or not registered and tried to access the chat room they were redirected to the log in screen. Can this be done here or did I just miss that somewhere?

OK. I got this working with a little change to the chat.php file. If anyone is interested, I'll attach the file with Grim77's permission.

[scottct1]

Any way to have the Who's Online display on your main forum page where it shows whos online in the forums?

Like under the currently active users list.

*CLICKS INSTALL

[Grim77]

OK. I got this working with a little change to the chat.php file. If anyone is interested, I'll attach the file with Grim77's permission.

Please do! :)

[SVTBlackLight01]

OK. This is working on my test site with vB3 Gold.

Also attached is a screenshot and the instructions for adding all the chat links to the bottom of the Quick Links pop-up menu.

Have you considered putting together an installer?

[Grim77]

Have you considered putting together an installer?

Nope, I'm afraid this is my first go at a VB hack :)If anyone would like to improve upon the code, feel free to do so, and re-archive your work :)

[SVTBlackLight01]

Any way to have the Who's Online display on your main forum page where it shows whos online in the forums?

Like under the currently active users list.

*CLICKS INSTALL

I'm actually working on it right now. Check out the attached preview.

[Grim77]

I'd definitely recommend updating the list only once every specified amount of minutes to keep from quickly depleting the who's online module hits..

I'm actually working on it right now. Check out the attached preview.

[scottct1]

Perhaps it could be written so it pulls the information from the database, and if the database info is more then say 15 minutes old then it hits the SigmaChat server for an updated list.

[SVTBlackLight01]

Actually, I was just thinking about that. In the end, I don't think it would be worth the trouble, but there may be a work around.

[gc1]

Works great, thanks for sharing

[NS_007]

Works great, thanks for sharing
Anyone else having users who can't log in any more? When they click the links they are only getting white screen?

If so, did you find a solution? And could you please post the solution?

[sross]

Hi I'm having problems, I installed per instructions but when I click my chatlink, appears to autologon -that's fine- but then it fails saying invalid user. i know my paths are right to the auth file, hmm :(

[Grim77]

Hi -- Is the remote authentication system enabled, or are you using SigmaChat's built in user database? If you're using the built-in database, autologin will not work with password protected accounts...

Hi I'm having problems, I installed per instructions but when I click my chatlink, appears to autologon -that's fine- but then it fails saying invalid user. i know my paths are right to the auth file, hmm :(

[sross]

well i got a little further, it did login my account which is admin user, but when I logged off, shutdown the browser, went back and logged in as a regular member it didn't autologin. I'm pretty sure everything is set right. I'll check the group id's again..

[SVTBlackLight01]

Hi -- Is the remote authentication system enabled, or are you using SigmaChat's built in user database? If you're using the built-in database, autologin will not work with password protected accounts...


I think a list of settings that affect this hack and what they need to be set to would be helpful. I was having the same problem as well, and after playing with all the settings for a good while, I found out it was being caused by the remote authentication system.

[Grim77]

I tried to make this all clear in step #9 in the installation...
Also, if you're using the authentication script in conjunction with the automatic login feature (as set in chat_global.php) we strongly recommend setting the Exit URL in your SigmaChat control panel to the URL of your forum system. When the automatic login is used in combination with the authentication script, you can only login to your chat room from your vBulletin system during the automatic login as password authentication is special for this type of set up. You can find the Exit URL setting in the "Web Sites" -> "Settings" section of your SigmaChat control panel.

Basically, when the auto-login is used with remote auth, the password is sent through the applet md5 encoded, and the authenticator does a simple byte for byte comparison with the VB database..

[sross]

I tried to make this all clear in step #9 in the installation...


Basically, when the auto-login is used with remote auth, the password is sent through the applet md5 encoded, and the authenticator does a simple byte for byte comparison with the VB database..
ok i found the problem, i think. seems ok now. It looks like the group id's have to be in sequential order. I had 2,7,5 and when changed to 2,5,7 seemes to be working now. yay

[admiralapril]

Does SigmaChat work in Mozilla and Mozilla Firefox? I use IE and it works fine, but trying it in those other browsers didn't work. it didn't get any further than 'Loading... please wait'.

[SVTBlackLight01]

It works for me in Mozilla Firefox.

[Grim77]

Does SigmaChat work in Mozilla and Mozilla Firefox? I use IE and it works fine, but trying it in those other browsers didn't work. it didn't get any further than 'Loading... please wait'.

Yes, absolutely. We've tested it using MSIE/Win32, MSIE/OS-X, Netscape (all JVM supported platforms), Mozilla, Safari, Opera, just to name a few. Basically any web browser with a modern Java Virtual Machine will run it. Make sure you've got the latest JVM from The Java Website (http://www.java.com/) :)

[NS_007]

Yes, absolutely. We've tested it using MSIE/Win32, MSIE/OS-X, Netscape (all JVM supported platforms), Mozilla, Safari, Opera, just to name a few. Basically any web browser with a modern Java Virtual Machine will run it. Make sure you've got the latest JVM from The Java Website (http://www.java.com/) :)
hmmm Chris, do my chatters also need to have JVM installed to run it?

So far I have been unable to find a common thread for those who can not get in chat and only see the white screen. *sigh*

I just don't understand why some can get in and some can't.

Also, if I go back to my old AAS, will the newer who's chatting layout still work? Or do I still need to use the old one for that as well?

[Grim77]

Yes, you need to have Java installed to use the software. If that doesn't work, send me a link to your site and I'll take a look.

You should be able to drop in any AAS script you'd like in place of chat_auth.php -- just make sure you disable the auto-login within chat_global.

hmmm Chris, do my chatters also need to have JVM installed to run it?

So far I have been unable to find a common thread for those who can not get in chat and only see the white screen. *sigh*

I just don't understand why some can get in and some can't.

Also, if I go back to my old AAS, will the newer who's chatting layout still work? Or do I still need to use the old one for that as well?

[NS_007]

Yes, you need to have Java installed to use the software. If that doesn't work, send me a link to your site and I'll take a look.

You should be able to drop in any AAS script you'd like in place of chat_auth.php -- just make sure you disable the auto-login within chat_global.
Well all swear they have java. *shrugs*

Hmm so if I go back to the old chat_auth.php and change the autologin in the chat_global.php, all will still work??

[admiralapril]

Yes, absolutely. We've tested it using MSIE/Win32, MSIE/OS-X, Netscape (all JVM supported platforms), Mozilla, Safari, Opera, just to name a few. Basically any web browser with a modern Java Virtual Machine will run it. Make sure you've got the latest JVM from The Java Website (http://www.java.com/) :)
Thank you so much! Downloading the latest Java software fixed the problem. :)

[Grim77]

It should -- chat_auth.php isn't really tied to anything else. Why do you want to use a different authentication script if you don't mind my asking?

Hmm so if I go back to the old chat_auth.php and change the autologin in the chat_global.php, all will still work??

[mharmon]

I'm getting an "uncached templates" error when the chat page comes up. How can I fix this?

[Bryan Ex]

Okay Chris... been following this discussion for a little while and am now ready to purchase a chat app for my site. If I understand things correctly the sigma chat integration with VB3 uses current usernames for the login process but does not indicate whether the room is being used or by how many at any given point? I'm not concerned about listing actually users as part of the added who's online module but just a simple number of users. For example, in the nav bar I would like a link to chat followed by the number of active users - Chat (7). 100 hits for who's online would be used up in no time flat on my site simply from people being nosey and really isn't worth the extra billing to me. For that matter... even a small status icon indicating it's being used at all would work nicely - similar to the online indicators on this message board.

[Mickie D]

thanks for this hack i clicked install great hack :)

all the other chat irc hacks half of my members could get in half could not :(

this one is great and i will probably pay $75 if it goes well :)

i agree about the users chatting.

basicly i have a link like this to my chat under my header

LIVE CHAT CLICK HERE

but i would like to have

CURRENTLY {1} USER(s) CHATTING CLICK HERE TO JOIN

or something like that on my forum home template ?

is this possible and thanks again

[Mickie D]

i should have read bryans post above mine :) lol

i want exactly what he said and he said it alot clearer :)

[Bryan Ex]

Here's an example of what I'm after from my old forum using a simple java chat script. The actual users where never listed... just the number of people using chat and it worked extremely well at promoting the chat room usage.

[Grim77]

It looks as though a lot of people would like their main forum page to indicate how many users are online, or in some cases, show their names.. Regardless of whether or not you show each and every username in the chat, or just show the amount of users, a Who's Online Module 'hit' is consumed. Shortly, I'm going to be working on someone elses site to do something just like this. In order to minimize the quick usage of Who's Online hits (and keep from saturating RaiderSoft's servers) we'll need to figure out a way to set up a simple cron so the data is only updated every 5 or 10 minutes or so (or however the end user would like it set up) Either way, it looks like a version 1.1 is in order, and I'll be getting started on it shortly. I'll send out an update as soon as it's online! Thanks for all the great comments and suggestions!

[Eladesor]

Clicked Install:
My members love it:)
Thank you - your efforts are appreciated.

[Bryan Ex]

It looks as though a lot of people would like their main forum page to indicate how many users are online, or in some cases, show their names.
Chris... because of this response I have just subscribed to your platnium service today. If you should need any testing done by all means I'd be happy to help out in any way possible.

[Bryan Ex]

we'll need to figure out a way to set up a simple cron so the data is only updated every 5 or 10 minutes or so
Hmmm... if this is still to be part of the extra billed who's online module would it not require a subscriber to purchase 4320+ hits per month to work? Just so I'm clear on your intentions... will a simply "In use" indicator be available instead of the complete list of active users?

[mharmon]

I will help out in any way also.... My users LOVE this chat .. and I want to add the same "Who's Chatting" functionality to my main page.

[Grim77]

Hmmm... if this is still to be part of the extra billed who's online module would it not require a subscriber to purchase 4320+ hits per month to work? Just so I'm clear on your intentions... will a simply "In use" indicator be available instead of the complete list of active users?

Hi Bryan -- regardless of whether or not we show the entire list, just the user amount, or a simple "in use" indicator, the Who's Online Module is used. The advantage of having a Platinum/Enterprise account is that these accounts are provided a daily stipend of hits to allow for a once/10 minutes check on the module without having to pay extra.

[Bryan Ex]

Sounds perfect Chris. Sigmachat Platinum is up and running on my site now and I'm looking forward to the update.

[Entourage]

/me click and install! tnx!

running smooth here, just hope that Who's Chatting" functionality wil come soon.

[Mickie D]

i might be able to think up something for the whos chatting number should not be to tuff let me get my book of functions out lol

[Grim77]

Hmm.. might not be the best place to post this, but anybody have any resources for creating an install script for VB3 hacks? I could do it manually for this by talking directly to the database and with some simple regular expressions, but was hoping for something a little bit more clean. (?) I think I spent most of my time working on the HTML instruction page for this hack, rather than the actual mod code which is something I'd really like to avoid in the next release. So far, and this is from memory so correct me if I'm wrong, the suggestions people are looking for for the v1.1 release are:

1. Ability to show list of who is chatting (or, optionally, the number of chatters) from the main forum page with specified update interval.
2. Option for Quick Links link to Chat Room
3. Enhancements to authentication script so that the chat room can be used both in auto-login mode, and on other pages not making use of auto-login.
4. Self installer
5. Control panel interface for chat settings (hmm, anybody know of any resources for this too?)
6. Interfaces for the SigmaChat "User List Integration" feature

-Chris

[Bryan Ex]

Not sure if you are aware of this option Chris... or even if it would help but just in case;

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=60735

[mharmon]

Chris --

Could you also make it so you could incorporate this on a NON-VB page... I want to post the chatroom on my main site -- would be a big help if you could do this..

Thanks

[Bryan Ex]

I think item #3 has that one covered actually.

[accyroy]

Excellent integration. I've just signed up for the pro version!

A feature I would love with this would be to have opening times for the chat room. I don't get that many chatroomers and so having set times that the chat is open would be better....

[Preech]

Only if us Professional Sigma chat owners could use our database for members to login.

[kyrnel]

Installed, my members love it. I can't wait to be able to display how many users are in chat from my main page.

[Bryan Ex]

Btw Chris... this is all I'm really looking to do with the chat in use indicator. Just a little something to show it's being used without having to dig into menus to find out.

[Grim77]

Just a quick heads up here...

We're working on some updates to SigmaChat. Check out http://beta.sigmachat.com/ and http://support.raidersoft.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=968&st=0 for status info and some mid-development screenshots. When the final release is made, an update to the integration/authentication hack will soon follow :)

[accyroy]

Hi Chris - thanks for the update! Just wondering, will the next version of the hack support showing how many/who is in chat on forumhome... As soon as this is implemented then I'll be upgrading to the platinum version.

[cosmin]

chris,

i wrote you a couple of times and emailed you my chat_global file for my site: http://www.royouth.com .... everyone in this thread seems to have installed it fine, and i followed the install instructions perfectly and i get an error that the username/password is invalid when trying to enter the chatroom via a popup box...

please review by clicking on the roCHAT text link on our site.

would you know why this is doing this, or anyone else know?

i did buy the premium membership through IPB's website, but the chat control panel is through your website and i changed the USERS > OPTIONS settings according to the install instructions.

any ideas?

[NexVision]

chris,

i wrote you a couple of times and emailed you my chat_global file for my site: http://www.royouth.com .... everyone in this thread seems to have installed it fine, and i followed the install instructions perfectly and i get an error that the username/password is invalid when trying to enter the chatroom via a popup box...

please review by clicking on the roCHAT text link on our site.

would you know why this is doing this, or anyone else know?

i did buy the premium membership through IPB's website, but the chat control panel is through your website and i changed the USERS > OPTIONS settings according to the install instructions.

any ideas?
make sure you have granted the usergroup in ??? access

[WhiteOx2]

Does anyone have a zip file that's not empty ? :(

[kontrabass]

Arghh... I've gone through the instructions again and again and double checked everything... but when I click on my chat url (chat.php, embeded), it opens a blank page. I'm assuming some php error but nothing shows up in the error log.

I wish I could give more info, but I really don't know what I could have done wrong :( Using a free sigmachat account for now. One thing that I'm not quite sure on - I use multiple VB styles - does it matter which style I create the sigmachat_x templates under?

[apokphp]

yes Kontra....this has to be a template issue. Blank pages like that always do.

[Majik?]

Have had this installed for a little while now and was tesitng with jus tthe staff. Must say it's an excellent service. We ordered the Platinum service yesterday and the account was upgraded in a matter of hours.

We just have to finish customizing the colours and logo for it beofr ewe make it available to the general membership. I noticed in the FAQs that a limited few colour parameters can be passed to it, but it would be really good if all the colours could be passed to the applet from the script or be bale to set multiple colour sets in the SigmaChat CP and then pass a single variable with the number of the colour set to use. That way, it could be cmpletely integrated with each individual forum style.

Other than the colour thing though, not a problem.. Not that that's even a problem, more of a suggestion/preference.

[weewilly]

Am I the only one who cannot seem to make this hack work?

When I had the chat on a standalone webpahe, it worked great. With this hack, and using a forum link to access chat, the applet fails.

I have checked and double-checked everything and I can find no reason for this to be happenening. Any ideas?

[accyroy]

Any update on showing the users in chat on forumhome yet?

[Bryan Ex]

If I'm not mistaken... I think they are waiting for the release of the next version of chat before updating the integration script (mid to late June).

[Bryan Ex]

Not sure if this is helpful to anyone else but I've added an additional user title to the who's chatting list for my paid subscribers. The sigmachat hack basically lists users as guest, user, moderator, or admin depending on the user group they are in but I've also added Sponsor member as well to recognize those that have upgraded their memberships but you could use it for any usergroup you wish to list providing it's set as a primary group.

In chat_global.php find (may differ slightly depending on your usergroup settings);

# Specify the Primary User Groups that have both administrative access and grant access (the
# ability to grant temporary administrative privileges to non-admins within the
# chat room) in the chat room.
$SIGMACHAT_AUTH_GRANTACCESS = array(6);

After add (change usergroup id to the one you want to list and remove it from it's previous array);

# Specify the Primary User Group For Sponsor Members with standard access
$SIGMACHAT_AUTH_SPONSORACCESS = array(14);




In chat_auth.php find;

if(in_array($userinfo[usergroupid], $SIGMACHAT_AUTH_ACCESS)) die("1");

After add (for basic chat access);

if(in_array($userinfo[usergroupid], $SIGMACHAT_AUTH_SPONSORACCESS)) die("1");

In chat_online.php find;

if(in_array($bbuserinfo[usergroupid], $SIGMACHAT_AUTH_GRANTACCESS))
$SIGMACHAT_RANK = $vbphrase[sigmachat_rank_2];

And after add;

if(in_array($bbuserinfo[usergroupid], $SIGMACHAT_AUTH_SPONSORACCESS))
$SIGMACHAT_RANK = $vbphrase[sigmachat_rank_3];

Save and upload. Next go to Admin > Phrases > Phrase manager > Add new phrase and add the following phrase;

Type: Global
Varname: sigmachat_rank_3
Text: Sponsor Member (change this to suit your usergroup)

That's it. Now when people use my Who's Chatting link it displays guests, members, sponsor members, moderators, & admin. It's a small thing but if like me you are trying to sell memberships it always helps to highlight those that have paid but you could use it for any selected group you wish.

[dfaonxa]

I registered a free account and went through all the steps for the hack, thanks for the clear documentation! However, when I click on my Chat link (popup), I get a grey window with a red X. I've tried updating all my Java, I rechecked my templates (and did the update) and made sure I wasn't running automatic login and AAS simultaneously. Suggestions?

[TheMayhem]

Hello,

somehow this script doesn't seem to want to be as friendly to me as it has been to everyone else. I have an enterprise account and I have $SIGMACHAT_VB_AUTHENTICATE set to 1 and it's connecting to the server completely fine, however it is rejecting me user/pass combo from my vb database no matter what, any suggestions?

[EvilCrow]

Arghh... I've gone through the instructions again and again and double checked everything... but when I click on my chat url (chat.php, embeded), it opens a blank page. I'm assuming some php error but nothing shows up in the error log.

I wish I could give more info, but I really don't know what I could have done wrong :( Using a free sigmachat account for now.

I'm having the same problems you are... :ermm:

[EvilCrow]

no one having this problem other then us two??
Anyone there? Hello

[Bryan Ex]

Sigmachat is pushing to have a beta release of their next version ready for Friday so Chris is likely up to his eyeballs right now and simply hasn't checked back here recently. Best bet is probably to post to their own support forum as I know he is keeping tabs on it daily with all the changes comng up;

http://support.raidersoft.com/forums/

[freakyshiat]

I am having a weird problem. I bought a Platinum account and everything seems fine as far as chatting goes. But while the chat popup is launched, if I click on my forums and read any threads, there are weird numbers that show up randomly everywhere for no reason. If the chat popup windows is closed, all is fine. If I use the embedded option, everything seems ok. Please see the attached image.

[jribz]

What's the deal with this project at this point? The zip files are empty.

I'd like to purchaser the chat software, but without the script to integrate it it would be useless to me.

[Bryan Ex]

Sigmachat has just released their beta version so the new version of chat shouldn't be far behind. They've got to get the new version online before they can update the integration script.

[ImportPassion]

What's the deal with this project at this point? The zip files are empty.

I'd like to purchaser the chat software, but without the script to integrate it it would be useless to me.
not empty for me. 700+kb

[jribz]

not empty for me. 700+kbCan you attach the file you have that's not 0kb then, cause everything I try to download in this thread is 0.

[ImportPassion]

try this

[68 Z-28]

I just downloaded and installed and appears to wrok great. I am having one problem though I believe it's a configuration error or someting...

I'm getting. "Applet Halted. This chat room is closed." I will be contacting RaiderSoft about this.

Edit: I just tried their link from their site to open the chat-room and it logged me in fine. What setting do I need to change in order for it to load through my forum?

I tempoarily changed the link in the navbar to reflect that which Raidersoft provided, but I don't want to leave it this way as it's not how the hack is intended to be installed, and It won't allow for the "Who's Chatting" to work.

[ImportPassion]

cause u need to enter ur code in the file.

[68 Z-28]

I did enter my chat room code.

[68 Z-28]

I just went in and dropped the SC- from the chat code and it appears to work. wierd.

[admiralapril]

Does this integration script prevent guests from chatting? I don't want guests to chat.. I just want registered users in there. I logged out and was still able to go into the chat room and chat. It automatically logged me in as my registered forum username, even though I wasn't logged in to the forum software.

That's perfectly fine. I just don't want guests being able to chat under a 'guest' name. How does this work?

It would be nice if the link to the chat room in the navbar wasn't there for guests to see if they aren't logged in. Is this possible?

[Bryan Ex]

It's completely configurable as to which usergroups have access so yes, you can prevent guests from using chat.

To have the link appear only for registered users just add
<if condition="$bbuserinfo['userid']"> before the link and </if> after it.

[JustAskJulie]

I noticed that as well, that even when logged out it will log you into chat under the last username you were logged in as.

My question: Will it not do user authentication if you are using it embedded into another webpage? I have tried this an every time you try to login (even typing in the username/pw) it tells you that the un/pw is invalid).

[admiralapril]

It's completely configurable as to which usergroups have access so yes, you can prevent guests from using chat.

To have the link appear only for registered users just add
<if condition="$bbuserinfo['userid']"> before the link and </if> after it.
Thank you so much, Bryan. I added your little bit of code and all is well now. :)

[Bryan Ex]

My question: Will it not do user authentication if you are using it embedded into another webpage?
I'm going from memory here as it's been a while since I've looked at it and don't embed the chat on my site but... I "think" it does work but there were various known issues with it. I've always used the pop up version on my site without problems and only those that are registered and logged in can access it.

[Bryan Ex]

Thank you so much, Bryan. I added your little bit of code and all is well now. :)
Great! Glad it helped out. ;)

[JustAskJulie]

I noticed when looking at the "Who's CHatting" list that some users don't show up underlined (with a link to their profile). These are registered users so I'm a bit confused as to why this is.

[Bryan Ex]

That will happen with user names with special characters or spaces in the name (replaced with underscores) that aren't suppported in the java chat. Because the name has been changed slightly it doesn't match your user database from that page. I believe this is supposed to be fixed in the next release once sigmachat goes final in the near future.

[JustAskJulie]

Ah thanks. Also is there any way to view "idle time" of a user in chat? And does the chat room automatically log someone out after they have been idle for any specific amount of time?

[Bryan Ex]

Not presently but I "think" that was on the list of things to be added for the next release as well. There's a list of everything that's being added on Sigma Chat's beta forum but it's been a while since I've looked at it as I'm waiting on the final version before messing with it at all.

[JustAskJulie]

So far so good for the most part my users are liking it (following the usual "it's new it's different" complaints). I know I read in here that it's been tested with Mac browsers but I have a mac user that is reporting this:
chat...freezes, crashes and when I finally get connected the background is black so I can't read what anybody is writing Any ideas?

Also (and I didn't see this mentioned before) is there any potential of making it so that you can click a users name and be taken to their vb profile? I was trying to figure out if maybe that could be done via the "user list integration" or if there is some other way to do it?

[Bryan Ex]

I know I read in here that it's been tested with Mac browsers but I have a mac user that is reporting this:
Check their OS version. Sigmachat is not supported for OS8 or below and OS9 requires Internet Explorer. OS-X is supposed to be cool with it.


Also (and I didn't see this mentioned before) is there any potential of making it so that you can click a users name and be taken to their vb profile?
Once again... that's coming but for now you can add the link to "Who's Chatting" to the right click URL list. That way members can right click on any name, go to Who's Chatting, and then access the profile from there. Add the link from the SigmaChat control panel.

[ChurchMedia]

I wrote an Add-on to show who's chatting on the forum home page. It is located here. (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?&threadid=67456) The only thing to be concerned about is an increase in Who's Chatting hits. I actually wasn't aware of that limitation! :o

[WhiteOx2]

I have had this installed and working since April ..... But for some reason it doesn't want to work if you install a new skin :confused:
It just loads up a blank web page, sometimes you can get it to work by deleting your cookies ????
Does anyone have an idea what the problem might be?

BTW: For the people who keep downloading an empty Zip file .... Turn your firewall off .... Worked for me ;)

[aberg]

I get a empty file after downloading the zip.
I have turn off the firewal, without any result.
Where can i downloading a good zip file?

[Dep]

download not working anyone got another link plz

[VodkaFish]

Has anyone been able to assign admin rights to users who belong to a secondary usergroup? I don't want to create a new primary group for them as I already have them marked off for something else; they're not mods, but I'd like them to be able to admin in the chat room.

[oly51]

download not working anyone got another link plz Check out the Sigmachat forums or their "add-ons" (?) link in your chat control panel (I think that's what it's called) ;)

[Dep]

ty got in downloaded now i have run into a problems all i get is

Applet Halted. This chat room is closed.

can you still use the free version or do you have to have a paid version

[NetRover]

total newbie just setup the free version without any problems.

well documented and excellent work.

The most annoying part was having to do the templates for each style involved but I bet I missed an easier obvious way.

thinking of upgrading already to get the X users chatting which appears to be available.

Andy

[JustAskJulie]

total newbie just setup the free version without any problems.

well documented and excellent work.

The most annoying part was having to do the templates for each style involved but I bet I missed an easier obvious way.

thinking of upgrading already to get the X users chatting which appears to be available.

Andy

Sounds like you didn't set your templates up right to begin with. if you had set them up as child templates then you'd only have to edit/add the main templates and it would automatically update the ones below.

[NetRover]

AhHa!, :)

I better check that, thanks for the tip.

I don't want to interfere on the subject of this thread, I'll just assume if I remove them I can add them again as child and it should be ok.

[aberg]

I'm actually working on it right now. Check out the attached preview.

I wonder how you do this?
I don't get this under the forum.

How do i get this on the index right under the forum?

[lazytown]

I thought there was going to be a cache of some kind where it updates "who's online" every five minutes or so? In fact i was told to expect that update sometime in July by Raidersoft support. Any word on this? Right now that who's online credits get eaten up way too fast.

[Bryan Ex]

The last I'd read from raidersoft was that they had identified some series issues with older OS and where correcting that before releasing the new chat which is why the delay. The integration script obviously won't be updated by them until the new chat applet goes final.

[Grim77]

We're getting very close to an initial public release for SigmaChat 7.4 (now in beta -- visit http://beta.sigmachat.com/ for details)

As soon as a pre-release candidate goes online, we'll be updating the integration script here. So I have the latest from everyone, a couple questoins..

1. What major issues (bugs/annoyances) do you feel need to be addressed most in this script?
2. What major features do you feel should be included in the next script release?

Thanks!

-Chris

P.S. We're now shooting for an Oct 1 release :)

[Bryan Ex]

This integration has worked wonderfully for me Chris. A few items I'd like to see included in an update would be to correct the issue with broken profile links for user names containing spaces (like Bryan Ex for example), it would be nice if user titles were used in Who's Chatting instead of the "stock" member, moderator, & admin used now, but most importantly an indicator of the number of people in chat after the Chat link in the nav bar done on a cron so hits are not consumed too fast.

[JustAskJulie]

For the most part this has worked great for me. I have had some complaints tho from people not being able to get logged in. The username area shows their name from the site but it won't log them in complaining that their un/pw is incorrect.

Any idea what might be causing this?

[Grim77]

It's possible that it could be caused by incompatibilities between the username/password requirements for vBulletin and that of SigmaChat -- we'll definitely look into it :)


For the most part this has worked great for me. I have had some complaints tho from people not being able to get logged in. The username area shows their name from the site but it won't log them in complaining that their un/pw is incorrect.

Any idea what might be causing this?

[JustAskJulie]

It's possible that it could be caused by incompatibilities between the username/password requirements for vBulletin and that of SigmaChat -- we'll definitely look into it :)

Thanks. I'm not sure what incompatibilities there are aside from the _ vs. space issue. The ones I've encountered this with were names without spaces or _ of any kind, just standar letters and numbers.

[JustAskJulie]

Just ran into something else. When using the "who's chatting" link on the Quick Links list, it doesn't work if you are using Vba CMPS portal.

[ChurchMedia]

2. What major features do you feel should be included in the next script release?

I'd love to have a way to tap into the who's chatting user ids in the chat room so that I can modify the template to include avatars, links to profiles, PM, etc. Or maybe you can just make that part of the integration script -- with on/off variables for various vB user profile items. The avatars, etc. could be listed in a table under the main chat box. I guess the trick would be to have it update itself when people come and go (like the list next to the chat box).

Having pictures and profile info available right in the chat room would really add to the conversations....

Thanks for the work on the program and the vB integration! :)

[JustAskJulie]

For the most part this has worked great for me. I have had some complaints tho from people not being able to get logged in. The username area shows their name from the site but it won't log them in complaining that their un/pw is incorrect.

Any idea what might be causing this?

I wanted to update on this. I have had a couple of people now who have ended up re-registering a new name because they couldn't get access to the chat room with the name(s) they had previously registered on the forums. After registering a new name they were able to get in with no problem (but only with the new name). :ermm:

[The Geek]

Just bought a Platinum version yesterday and am about to download this integration as it looks pretty sweet.

I was just wondering though... Couldnt the next version allow us to pass a userid along with the login info? That way, you could:
Be able to bring up users profiles from the chat menu (even PM or email) by appending the sites URL member page if integration is enabled.
You could also call a script on the forums web site when users login and logout (i.e. http://www.mydomain.com/forum/chat_script.php?uid=1&do=login). Even better, you could post an array of all the user id's that are chatting (if there is more than one) every x amount of minutes, and/or when someone logs in/out. That way the forum site can cache the who's on line in a small table... get an accruate list and member link for who is chatting, keep the 'who is online' up to date, and dramatically reduce bandwidth while keeping information accurate.

Just a thought... Im going off to install ;)

[JustAskJulie]

Just bought a Platinum version yesterday and am about to download this integration as it looks pretty sweet.

I was just wondering though... Couldnt the next version allow us to pass a userid along with the login info? That way, you could:
Be able to bring up users profiles from the chat menu (even PM or email) by appending the sites URL member page if integration is enabled.
You could also call a script on the forums web site when users login and logout (i.e. http://www.mydomain.com/forum/chat_script.php?uid=1&do=login). Even better, you could post an array of all the user id's that are chatting (if there is more than one) every x amount of minutes, and/or when someone logs in/out. That way the forum site can cache the who's on line in a small table... get an accruate list and member link for who is chatting, keep the 'who is online' up to date, and dramatically reduce bandwidth while keeping information accurate.

Just a thought... Im going off to install ;)

I think this is a great idea, it also might help to clear up the problem we are having with incompatible user names?

[Grim77]

The next version will be able to do exactly that :) We've completely redesigned and enhanced the remote authentication system. The next release of this mod will be more tightly integrated with the chat software :)

-Chris

Just bought a Platinum version yesterday and am about to download this integration as it looks pretty sweet.

I was just wondering though... Couldnt the next version allow us to pass a userid along with the login info? That way, you could:
Be able to bring up users profiles from the chat menu (even PM or email) by appending the sites URL member page if integration is enabled.
You could also call a script on the forums web site when users login and logout (i.e. http://www.mydomain.com/forum/chat_script.php?uid=1&do=login). Even better, you could post an array of all the user id's that are chatting (if there is more than one) every x amount of minutes, and/or when someone logs in/out. That way the forum site can cache the who's on line in a small table... get an accruate list and member link for who is chatting, keep the 'who is online' up to date, and dramatically reduce bandwidth while keeping information accurate.

Just a thought... Im going off to install ;)

[Grim77]

Quick update --

SigmaChat v7.4 Beta is now getting very close to final release. We're currently testing Release Candidate 2 with our beta testers.

RaiderSoft has also transitioned it's support forums from IPB 1.3 to VB 3.0.3 :D

You can view the future release in action at http://support.raidersoft.com/forums/chat.php?

We hope to have an updated vBulletin/SigmaChat integration module ready by the time v7.4 goes final.

Cheers!

-Chris
RaiderSoft

[deepdark]

i installed and this is global config:
$SIGMACHAT_SERVER = 'client1.sigmachat.com';
$SIGMACHAT_CHAT_ROOM_ID = 'SC-75992';

and when i click th echat the aplets is loading and giving this error:
Applet Halted. This chat room is closed.

in who is chatting Quick Links i recive this error:
Who's Chatting
Currently user(s) chatting.
User Name Chat Room Privileges
Notice: Invalid Account


any help

[Grim77]

Try this:

$SIGMACHAT_SERVER = 'client1.sigmachat.com';
$SIGMACHAT_CHAT_ROOM_ID = '75992';

:)

-Chris

i installed and this is global config:
$SIGMACHAT_SERVER = 'client1.sigmachat.com';
$SIGMACHAT_CHAT_ROOM_ID = 'SC-75992';

and when i click th echat the aplets is loading and giving this error:
Applet Halted. This chat room is closed.

in who is chatting Quick Links i recive this error:
Who's Chatting
Currently user(s) chatting.
User Name Chat Room Privileges
Notice: Invalid Account


any help

[jlegge]

We hope to have an updated vBulletin/SigmaChat integration module ready by the time v7.4 goes final.

Cheers!

-Chris
RaiderSoft

Any word on this?

[oly51]

V7.4 was released and uploaded to their servers at 18:15 EDT today.

It looks pretty promising.

[paulmjno]

I am thinking about buying the Platinum service because of this script. But, is the ability there to build a chat page from scratch, instead of having it integrated in the vB design? And have it popup? (You know, like music artists chat rooms.)

[ChurchMedia]

I wrote a quick hack that lets you look up a member's profile from within SigmaChat 7.4. You just upload one file and add a Remote Function in your SigmaChat control panel. Easy!

Here is where the hack is located:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=70369

Don't forget to click Install :) Thanks!

[JustAskJulie]

Hey Grimm, I haven't changed /updated anything on my end with the integration, but it would seem that the changes to sigmachat on your end have fixed the login problem I had previously reported.

[NetRover]

Hi all, just bought my platinum to use the authentication script.

I have setup the usergroups access to chat in the global settings but wondered if this works if a member subscribes and becomes a member in a paid secondary user group.

I have the feeling only primary groups are recognised as I added my paid group to a user name and they could not access the chat.

What's the best way of only allowing paid members access?

thanking you all

[Bounce]

Brilliant :squareeyed:

I've got the "who's online" link working a treat but :rolleyes: is there a way I can get it so it would show "users in chat" without you having to actually click on the "who's online" link??

To be put into the "What's Going On?" bit of the forum :ermm:

[camikazi2k]

is there a way to integrate this with VBADVANCED on the homepage?

[scottct1]

It's not working correctly for me (Almost but not quite) :)

First in your globals phrase additions you spelled Sigma wrong in sigmchat_refresh_msg it should be sigmachat_refresh_msg

Also in the whos online my screen comes up wrong, saying there is 0 people in chat when there is someone in there and it also says I am a user when I am an adminstrator (Usergroup 6)

If no one is in chat it shows..
Currently -1 user(s) chatting. (With one person in there it shows 0, with two is shows 1 user chatting with 3 it shows 2 etc..)

Please see the attached images for more details. As you can see when I am loging in it is verifying me as an administrator.

Alsi is there any way to verify me the whos online is only being updated every 2 minutes? I just dont want to get a huge bill for whos online when the script is set to two minutes.

Thanks for the hack and the great chat! I just upgraded to Enterprise last week.

[Grim77]

Hi scottct1,

OK -- yes it was a typo in the installation file, which will be corrected shortly. Thanks!

The Who's Chatting link should have been fixed in this release -- did you reupload all of the new files? If so, can you provide me with a link to your forum so I can check it out?

We don't charge for Who's Chatting hits anymore, so there is no worry there :)

-Chris

It's not working correctly for me (Almost but not quite) :)

First in your globals phrase additions you spelled Sigma wrong in sigmchat_refresh_msg it should be sigmachat_refresh_msg

Also in the whos online my screen comes up wrong, saying there is 0 people in chat when there is someone in there and it also says I am a user when I am an adminstrator (Usergroup 6)

If no one is in chat it shows..
Currently -1 user(s) chatting. (With one person in there it shows 0, with two is shows 1 user chatting with 3 it shows 2 etc..)

Please see the attached images for more details. As you can see when I am loging in it is verifying me as an administrator.

Alsi is there any way to verify me the whos online is only being updated every 2 minutes? I just dont want to get a huge bill for whos online when the script is set to two minutes.

Thanks for the hack and the great chat! I just upgraded to Enterprise last week.

[scottct1]

Hi scottct1,

OK -- yes it was a typo in the installation file, which will be corrected shortly. Thanks!

The Who's Chatting link should have been fixed in this release -- did you reupload all of the new files? If so, can you provide me with a link to your forum so I can check it out?

We don't charge for Who's Chatting hits anymore, so there is no worry there :)

-Chris

The url to the site is http://www.satelliteguys.us (The Who Chatting Link is found under the QUICK LINKS in the navigation bar.)

Thats cool to hear that the Whos Chatting hits is free now. :)

[VodkaFish]

The url to the site is http://www.satelliteguys.us (The Who Chatting Link is found under the QUICK LINKS in the navigation bar.)

Thats cool to hear that the Whos Chatting hits is free now. :)
I didn't know the who's chatting hits were free now. Woohoo! My users have been asking me a ton, but because we have high traffic (in our forums, not necessarily chat room), I was a bit weery.

Is it possible to use secondary usergroups yet to define chat mods? I have some "normal" users who would be great chat mods, and creating a secondary group for this would be really nice and easy.

[Grim77]

OK --

I just posted (8:36 EST, 11/11/04) an update to the script with some bug fixes and new functionality:

1. The Who's Chatting link from the Quick Links pulldown is now much smarter and more tightly integrated with the forum system.
2. The Who's Chatting link from the Quick Links pulldown now indicates the subroom a user is in.
3. Authentication now checks member group ID's per popular request.

[scottct1]

That one is working well. :)

Now I just need to figure out how to put it above my forums listing, it is up there now but the columns throw it off a bit this way when we have chats I dont need to update my navagation bar letting people know a chats in progress. :)

Thats not a problem with your hack at all, just a design issue on my end!

Thanks again!

[VodkaFish]

3. Authentication now checks member group ID's per popular request.
Great! I was just able to download it - but I don't see where to set this - I see where to set the primary groups in the global file, is there somewhere else, or does that read primary and secondary now?

[Grim77]

Great! I was just able to download it - but I don't see where to set this - I see where to set the primary groups in the global file, is there somewhere else, or does that read primary and secondary now?

It reads both the primary and secondary member groups when doing authentication, and lumps then together. If, for instance, you give user group 5 admin privileges, then a user will get chat admin privileges if his primary group is 5 or any of his secondary member groups include 5. If a user belongs to any group that is banned from chat access, even if that user also belongs to another group that allows access, he/she will be denied access.

Hmm, I hope that is clear :rolleyes: -- either way, it should work the way most people want it to, if not, just let me know! :)

[VodkaFish]

It reads both the primary and secondary member groups when doing authentication, and lumps then together. If, for instance, you give user group 5 admin privileges, then a user will get chat admin privileges if his primary group is 5 or any of his secondary member groups include 5. If a user belongs to any group that is banned from chat access, even if that user also belongs to another group that allows access, he/she will be denied access.

Hmm, I hope that is clear :rolleyes: -- either way, it should work the way most people want it to, if not, just let me know! :)
Perfectly clear :)

My only suggestion would be to change the comments that are used for documentation :)

[ChrisBaktis]

I downloaded this hack to get the new info on the Who's Online feature...Problem is the install html file for some reason is not showing the templates I need to create for the Whoi's Online feature...any chance of posting the code just for the Who's online feature?

[ChrisBaktis]

yes/no?

[Grim77]

ChrisBaktis,

Look in the templates/HTML folder for the templates :) You'll need to open them with a web browser, and the template names are the same as the filenames without the .html.

[VodkaFish]

If I have the chat room completely embedded (autologin enabled and such), if someone isn't logged in, I don't expect them to be able to click on the chatroom and have the java load with an "incorrect login" come up.

The previous page had the print_no_permission script in there for people not logged in, I'd suggest adding it back in as I would think people would expect it to work the same.

Also - I'd expect the "who's chatting" to follow the same permissions as "active users", perhaps add this into the who's chatting page:

if (!($permissions['wolpermissions'] & CANWHOSONLINE))
{
print_no_permission();
}

That's from online.php for anyone looking to mimic permissions easily. You can just place it below:
define('THIS_SCRIPT','chat_online');

Great job on the update, my users really like the who's chatting.

One odd thing's happening: my actual chat window is wider than I'm specifying. Has a minimum width been put into place? My template's a bit off now because of it.

[ChrisBaktis]

ChrisBaktis,

Look in the templates/HTML folder for the templates :) You'll need to open them with a web browser, and the template names are the same as the filenames without the .html.

Thank you - I overlooked that folder and was concentrating on the install.html file that was not showing them.

[NetRover]

Hi there, I've updated my chat from the 101 download file to this latest version.

I've checked my installation and instructions and can't find where I might have gone wrong to get the who's online to display on the forum home page.

Any guidance appreciated to resolve why it might not be showing.

thank you

[VodkaFish]

Even if you've installed it correctly it will not show if no one is currently in the room. My suggestion would be to open a window with you in the room; then wait about 2 minutes and refresh your forums home page.

[NetRover]

Hi there, thanks for the reply Vodka!

you're spot on and I was correct with my installation :)

works a treat after refreshing and being in the chat.

cheers

[ChrisBaktis]

Cht room was working fine but I decided to reinstall everything to do the new Whos Chatting info....Now all I get is a grey screen then after a few seconds I get a message 'Applet Halted: This Chat Room Is Closed'

Any Idea?

I added the phrases, added templates and have no idea.

ps - are the last two templates supposed to just say <!--Generate-->?

[VodkaFish]

Yes, the last two are just supposed to say generate.

Regarding the chat room closing, my suggestion would be to double-check your chat_global file and make sure your server info and id are typed in correctly.

[Grim77]

Cht room was working fine but I decided to reinstall everything to do the new Whos Chatting info....Now all I get is a grey screen then after a few seconds I get a message 'Applet Halted: This Chat Room Is Closed'

Any Idea?

I added the phrases, added templates and have no idea.

ps - are the last two templates supposed to just say <!--Generate-->?

Yes, they are supposed to say <!--Generate--> -- These templates are overridden when the who's chatting starts working.

It sounds like your chat room ID may not have been specified correctly, or it could be your server. Make sure when you enter your id in chat_global.php that it is just the number only (do not include a preceeding SC-) and that your server is either client0.sigmachat.com or client1.sigmachat.com (look at your chat room link code in the control panel to determine which is yours) :)

[ChrisBaktis]

If I go to the sigmachat_wc_embedne templatedirectly (i set it up through a .php for testing) it works great...however when I use the $template command in the forum home it does not pull up the template...I have checked the index.php file and I have adjusted that to what your Whos Chatting instructions say..can you think of any reason whey this doesnt work in the forum home but does work directly?

Example - http://rustysoaptraders.com/forums/mainindex2.php

This will show the people in the chat room - but by adding the $template command on the forum home it doesnt come up.

With this the names list will work if I use a a .php (for testing) to go directly to the WC_List template - but if you go to the sigmachat_wc_embedne template that also will not call up $template[sigmachat_wc_list]

I have no idea why.

[clearchannel]

I download the package. I Installed it, all seems to work at the moment. I see the image for clicking on quicklinks, and seeing who's chatting, but I have not found the instructions to install this feature.

I currently have it installed in such a way that it appears in the what's going on block.

Would anyone be so kind as to to point me the direction so I can add who's chatting to the quicks links drop down?

Thanks in advance.

[trackpads]

Great Hack, I have already had a suggestion from a user. Can we have an option to invite someone to Chat? For example send a PM from their username drop down or something similar?

[ChrisBaktis]

If I go to the sigmachat_wc_embedne templatedirectly (i set it up through a .php for testing) it works great...however when I use the $template command in the forum home it does not pull up the template...I have checked the index.php file and I have adjusted that to what your Whos Chatting instructions say..can you think of any reason whey this doesnt work in the forum home but does work directly?

Example - http://rustysoaptraders.com/forums/mainindex2.php

This will show the people in the chat room - but by adding the $template command on the forum home it doesnt come up.

With this the names list will work if I use a a .php (for testing) to go directly to the WC_List template - but if you go to the sigmachat_wc_embedne template that also will not call up $template[sigmachat_wc_list]

I have no idea why.

Anyone have any idea?

[clearchannel]

I have the feeling only primary groups are recognised as I added my paid group to a user name and they could not access the chat.

What's the best way of only allowing paid members access?

thanking you all

Open your chat_globle.php in a text editor and adjust the setting for which usergroups can access the chat.

# Specify the Primary User Groups that have standard access to the chat room.
$SIGMACHAT_AUTH_ACCESS = array(2,3);

The array number(s) are your usergroup ID:#'s permitted access to live chat.

[MikeAssad]

Yes, the instiallation readme dosen't have the full template for sigmachat_wc_list and sigmachat_wc_embedne. All it has for those two is "<!-- Generate -->".

[ChrisBaktis]

they are only supposed to say Generate - when the system runs it will change those.

[MikeAssad]

It dosen't work for me though. I don't see anything on the front page.

[Bryan Ex]

Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can add the users_chatting_count just after the "Chat" link in the nav bar as I described in this post;

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=500652&postcount=80

I've tried using the users chatting phrase and stripped out the text and I've also tried inserting the variable I found in the php files but neither one would work.

[peterska2]

I can't get chatwho.php to show anything nor the who's chatting info on the forum homepage.

Any ideas?

I've already had to hardcode my server into it as it was playing silly beggers and dropping the '.'s' in the server URL.

[paulmjno]

This seriously rocks. :D Got The Enterprise Service. ;)

[trevelyn1015]

just installed it... looks great...

www.ranger-forums.com

[trevelyn1015]

for some reason, the "who's chatting" used to show up on the forum page, and now it doesn't...

i did everything the instructions said to get it to pop up and it is in my quick links, but still doesn't work on the main forum page...???

is there a way, even, to get "who's chatting" to show when a member highlights the "chat" button? that would be cool...

[paulmjno]

Who's Chatting isn't showing up for me anymore, either. *contacting raidersoft*

[peterska2]

Let me know what they say as I'm having a nightmare with the Who's Chatting and am about to go mad with it.

[paulmjno]

The "Who's Chatting" started working again before I received the following email:

Does the Who's Chatting list from the Quick Links work correctly for you?

One common problem people report is caused because either 1) there is noone presently logged into the chat room in which case it will not show at all, or 2) they did not wait the amount of time specified in chat_global.php then reload before checking their homepage to see if it works.

We recommend loading the chat room in a browser window, then, in a separate browser window, open your forum homepage, wait about 5 minutes, then reload it twice. On forum systems with regular visitors this is usually never necessary, but on less busy forum systems, this is a great way to ensure that the system is indeed working.

If the Who's Chatting list from Quick Links is not working properly, it is possible that it could be a PHP configuration problem, or perhaps a minor installation issue.

[coloradok5]

It reads both the primary and secondary member groups when doing authentication, and lumps then together. If, for instance, you give user group 5 admin privileges, then a user will get chat admin privileges if his primary group is 5 or any of his secondary member groups include 5. If a user belongs to any group that is banned from chat access, even if that user also belongs to another group that allows access, he/she will be denied access.

Hmm, I hope that is clear :rolleyes: -- either way, it should work the way most people want it to, if not, just let me know! :)

OK, is there a way I can do this?

Primary group "2" (no access)
Primary group "2" with Additional group "16" (access)

[trackpads]

OK, is there a way I can do this?

Primary group "2" (no access)
Primary group "2" with Additional group "16" (access)
You can do that with the VB Usergroups as is.

LEave usergroup 2 as no access but set this to yes"

"Allow Users to have Member Groups"

Then just give group 16 access. Then anyone in group 2 that has a secondary group of 16 should have access. Members of group 2 without 16 as a secondary group should not have access.

-Jason

[coloradok5]

You can do that with the VB Usergroups as is.

LEave usergroup 2 as no access but set this to yes"

"Allow Users to have Member Groups"

Then just give group 16 access. Then anyone in group 2 that has a secondary group of 16 should have access. Members of group 2 without 16 as a secondary group should not have access.

-Jason
Thats exactly how I have it set and it doesn't allow group 16 access?? It looks like the code simply looks at primary and not secondary usergroups??

[ChrisBaktis]

How can I keep non-members from accessing the chat room?

[vonedaddy]

I installed this hack and it works great EXCEPT I dont see the who's chatting box... I checked and recheck the installation instructions and made sure all the changes were made and no luck. The only thing I notice is that the templates: sigmachat_wc_embedne & sigmachat_wc_list - which seem to have nothing but a comment in them keep reverting to empty templates. Any ideas on this would be GREATLY appreciated!

[peterska2]

I'm having the same problem and am very frustated with it.

[trevelyn1015]

i have this chatroom on my site, and it works great...

the only problem is, when no one is in the chatroom, the "who's chatting" bar doesn't show up on the forum index, by "users online" etc...

is there a way to keep it always up, even if just displaying "there are currently no members chatting or something"... :)

[trackpads]

i have this chatroom on my site, and it works great...

the only problem is, when no one is in the chatroom, the "who's chatting" bar doesn't show up on the forum index, by "users online" etc...

is there a way to keep it always up, even if just displaying "there are currently no members chatting or something"... :)
Open your template called "sigmachat_wc_embedne" and replace with the following:


<!-- users chatting -->
<tbody>
<tr>
<td class="thead" colspan="2">
<a style="float:$stylevar[right]" href="#top" onclick="return toggle_collapse('forumhome_activechatters')"><img id="collapseimg_forumhome_activeusers" src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/collapse_thead$vbcollapse[collapseimg_forumhome_activeusers].gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>
<a href="chat_online.php?$session[sessionurl]">$vbphrase[sigmachat_wgo_wc]</a>: $totalchatting</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
<tbody id="collapseobj_forumhome_activechatters" style="$vbcollapse[collapseobj_forumhome_activeusers]">
<tr>
<td class="alt2"><a href="chat_online.php?$session[sessionurl]"><img src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/whos_online.gif" alt="$vbphrase[sigmachat_chatting]" border="0" /></a></td>
<td class="alt1" width="100%">


<div class="smallfont">
<div style="white-space: nowrap">
$vbphrase[sigmachat_refresh_msg]
<a href="chat.php?$session[sessionurl]">$vbphrase[sigmachat_chatnow]</a>
</div>
<div>

$template[sigmachat_wc_list]

</div>
</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
<!-- end users chatting -->

[trevelyn1015]

thanks man... i appreciate it..

for some reason, i left that template blank...

[trackpads]

thanks man... i appreciate it..

for some reason, i left that template blank...
No, it was supposed to be blank. There are 2 and depending on the condition (no one chatting etc) it would display a blank, hence no chatting block.

I just made them both the same and now it displays no matter what!

-Jason

[ChrisBaktis]

I dont know what is wrong but that template keeps clearing out for me, going blank again. Thus removing the box.

[mavherzog]

This integration hack is GREAT! Love it.

Using the free version of SigmaChat right now...but with the integration with my board, I'm thinking I'm about to spend $75. :)

[dwh]

If you want to speed this up a bit, make sure to cache the templates.

Add
'sigmachat_wc_list'
'sigmachat_wc_embedne',
to $globaltemplates = array(
in index.php

and
in chat.php add

$globaltemplates = array(
'sigmachat_embed'
);


Before

require_once("./global.php");

[dwh]

I've just gone through a good chunk of this code. I'm amazed who's online works at all for anyone. Phrases and Templates were not meant to be updated this way through cron IMHO and the whole approach is very inefficient. The number of queries in the cron file is downright wasteful. It would have been much better, especially with buggy code, to create a totally separate table and update the fields there.

[vonedaddy]

I finally got the Who's Online box showing now but it never shows anyone in chat. Also when I click on Who's Chatting I see this error:
Warning: file(http://client1.sigmachat.com/scwho.pl?plain=1&id=56771&roompw=********************): failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/u1/vonaone/html/forums/chat_online.php on line 20

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /home/u1/vonaone/html/forums/chat_online.php on line 23

Any ideas?? Maybe this has something to do with why its not working?

[vonedaddy]

I also figured something else out. Everytime someone logs into the chat room it clears the whole sigmachat_wc_embedne template (I added the template so it would show the box all the time).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[dwh]

In my opinion, this entire implementation of sigmachat integration should be chucked entirely. I believe it is dangerous to implement. Maybe I'm being overly cautious, but updating the templates and phrases directly on a cron schedule is just not a good idea. As I said before, especially on buggy code, they should have created a table dedicated to whos chatting and update that. So if there's an error or problem, it won't mess up something as integral to vb as the template AND phrase system.

It works if you fix the bugs in their code, but the approach is wrong. I'm amazed that the same people who wrote such a good chat did such a bad job of writing the integration program.

[Bounce]

I also figured something else out. Everytime someone logs into the chat room it clears the whole sigmachat_wc_embedne template (I added the template so it would show the box all the time).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Same problem here

Wots the point in havin a box that disane appear till someone's in chat

isn't the whole point in having a "who's chatting" box is to get people to go into chat?

keeps clearing

otherwise works great :)

[vonedaddy]

Same problem here

Wots the point in havin a box that disane appear till someone's in chat

isn't the whole point in having a "who's chatting" box is to get people to go into chat?

keeps clearing

otherwise works great :)

Anyone have any ideas??

[kangta]

I've created an addon that will generate a random guest username if you're having problems with "Unregistered" users bumping each other or being denied access when you're using vB authentication. Enjoy ;)

[NeilStraker]

I've installed this, and it works perfectly, apart from the 'who's chatting' bit. I've read thro' this thread a dozen times and whatever I try doesn't work.

Also, I'm a bit concerned by dwh's comments!

[lazytown]

What is the current status of this? Is it working for most people?

-V

[msimplay]

I'm having a problem with whose chatting page it shows up white with no css

[speedracer68]

I had some help installing this and it never got finished. Then, the amature I am tried to finish it and killed it. Is there an easy way to uninstall it so I can start over?

[Jeep]

I get an error "Applet Halted. This chat room is closed."

But I cant seem to get iot going within the admin control...Newbie I guess but can someone giove me a heads up whats needed to be done. Im running VB3.03 and the free intergrated chat template. I modified everything to a T but still get the error.

any help would be appreciated...

[Grim77]

It's been a while since I've posted, sorry :(

dwh has some points. I'm not sure which parts of the code he considers buggy (please pm me any obvious bugs you've noticed and they'll be fixed ASAP) I do agree that the implementation could be more efficient. Using templates/phrases as they are now is a bit of a hack, the purpose being to produce the script quickly (we're not VB coders) without requiring major code changes to the VB core, and without creating dependancies upon certain databases.

That being said, the next version will be a rewrite, and will possibly be only MySQL based with a custom installer and configuration utility.

Most of our customers have little trouble getting it to work. The most common problems are not setting the chat room ID number correctly in the config file, and/or not having the url_fopen option enabled in php.ini (required for Who's Chatting updates)

If you have problems feel free to email support@raidersoft.com -- Providing your chat_global.php file, your SigmaChat account number is always helpful. Sometimes we need admin and ftp access to resolve problems.

Cheers!

[Kaelon]

Great tool! However, all Admins are showing up as just "Moderator". Here how I have my usergroups:

AUTH_ACCESS = Users (couple of usergroupids)
AUTH_ADMIN = Mods (one usergroupid)
AUTH_GRANT = Admins (one usergroupid)

When Admins log in, they have the AUTH_GRANT powers in the chat room, but on the Who's Chatting module, they're displayed as "Moderators", rather than "Administrator". Thoughts?

[007]

Does this work on 3.07?

[Kaelon]

Does this work on 3.07?

Apparently, only partly. I'm waiting on my query above.

[sross]

i just started having problems yesterday, my members used to click the chat link i setup and they autoloaded into the chat. Now I get a popup window and the background window changed dumps to the forum then closes, the chat eventually logs in but something is out of whack. I haven't changed any code, is anyone else having issues?

[NetRover]

Hi, I am but I just upgraded from 3.06 to 3.07 and thought that might be the reason.

I'm using firefox and it bombs right out completely with a report error back to firefox as my only window thats left.

It starts with the sigma chat popup window but the forum page in the background also went sigma before it booted out.

the chat code should be ok as the templates are unchanged for the links to chat.

[NetRover]

My chat is now working in popup on 3.0.7 but the live version of who is chatting on forum home is gone.

I've checked all code since the upgrade and even re done the code but it still does not show.

This thread is dying a bit, is this chat still supported on 3.0.7 and can anyone confirm if they have a working online?

maybe everyone is moving to VBchat?

[FlyBoy73]

I'm due to re-subscribe (I'm paying) and if it isn't going to be supported then I'll be going to something else.

[MB Dreamz]

Great hack! I have it installed on 3.0.6 and it's working great. One question, is there any way to portray the user markup in who's chatting on forumhome? Right now, only the admins show up in bold, but do not show the proper color. Please help.

[97cobracpe]

Just installed this and my members love it! I'm running it with 3.07 with no issues :).

[sledfreak]

I have installed the Chat Room. I purchased the Enterprise Package. When I go to my forum it says I do not have permission to access this page.

ERROR MESSAGE:
you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

Did I install something wrong?

[kadafi_alive]

Hi, when you click on popup (float), it displays the microstats details at the top.

Anyone know how to remove that?

[JustAskJulie]

I'm having problems. I had this working and then made some other changes trying to install another hack and something happened. Now all I get when I try to enter the chat (and all anyone gets) is "invalid username and password" after it attempts to authenticate. I've gone back and reinstalled making sure that everything is as it should be and I still can't get it fixed.

[Grim77]

Just to make sure -- are both of you still running vBulletin 3.0, not 3.5 or 3.6?

Either way, I'd recommend submitting a support ticket by emailing support@addonchat.com with your account ID number and a URL (include a valid username/password if required) so we can look into this :)

[Grim77]

For those of you who have recently upgraded to vBulletin v3.7, we have a release-candidate integration script for AddonChat available for download at http://forums.addoninteractive.com/showthread.php?t=3915

This is a complete revamped integration script requiring no template modifications, an integrated AdminCP control panel for your chat room settings, and remote authentication permissions are now integrated with vBulletin usergroups.