Templates :)

[MindTrix]

First a small note, How comes the link to vbulletintemplates.com on the forum main page, is not described as an official vbulletin site even though it is?

And as most, regular, vbulletin people are aware, that site is slowly dying mainly because some people are not aware it exists. How about vbulletin.org sending out some mass emails about the site to promote it? Surely that cant do no harm?

And i know this has been said before, but i cant understand how we have a template section still but has just been renamed to PHP / MySQL / JS / HTML (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=15)

Fair enough it is a support section, but people still ask template questions there, i myself have even asked template questions, was just wondering if something could be done to stop template questions beein asked??

Thanks for any reply :)

[Xenon]

was just wondering if something could be done to stop template questions beein asked??

welcome to our world ^^
if there would be a simple and freindly way, just tell us.
For now we just can close those threads and tell the authors to ask at vbt.

As for the official: it is mentioned on our network, so that means it's official.
vb-g and vb.com are even more official, as the staffmembers there are paid for there support ;)

[MindTrix]

Cheers for clearing that up Xenon. I guess it is difficult stopping people asking template questions, just gets kind of annoying when vbulletintemplates.com is pretty much dead because people ask here instead, i dunno its just me moaning :)

[13th_Disciple]

just a guess.. but i would say they ask because it's easier finding this place than it is vbt.. not to mention, getting "permission" over there is sometimes as fast as the seasons changing..

also, because it's a pain in the ass having to figure out every little vbulletin site nuance.. such as who has templates.. where can those questions be asked.. why things are so seperated..

personally, i am a member there, allowed to dl and things like that, but the site looks teh suck.. and is not as functional as some other vb sites.. personally, i like coming to one place for one product and finding the answers i am looking for.. that's not to say i deter fan sites or otherwise.. quite the opposite.. but for any formal support, it's a pain in the ass coming here for support and being told to go elsewhere..

[MindTrix]

I must admit you have to wait about a week for an answer over at www.vbulletintemplates.com

[Owen]

A taskforce should be setup :P To get it back on track, I remember in the vb 2 days vbt was very lively and I got response within hours, sometimes minutes.

[Xenon]

i think vbt will get more activity if more user go over there.
The new staff is active, but it's not the staff who is responsible for answereing template questions.
it's a users helping users board like here as well

[assassingod]

A taskforce should be setup :P To get it back on track, I remember in the vb 2 days vbt was very lively and I got response within hours, sometimes minutes.
That's mainly because vBT didn't have the licence system intergrated into it. Most of the users were probably pirates, when the licene system came, only a few hundred members verified (and could) their account to gain access to the forums.

[Owen]

If there would be staff there comitted to helping people without creating the impression that they should be the only one to help out it would probably catch.

[lasto]

ok lets put it to the test

i have asked 2 times on here for help and not got a reply so will do same on vbull.com and see if they help.

Also reason i dont use the other site even though im verified is cause i like vb.org and wish someone would have the brains to put it all on one board instead of splitting it all about.

[lasto]

ok i wont

im verified over there yet i cant make a new post weird time to fling email off me reckons

[Brad]

If there would be staff there comitted to helping people without creating the impression that they should be the only one to help out it would probably catch.
I really don't understand what you are saying?, the staff should encourage helping other users without doing it themselves?

When I see a thread I can answer I reply to it, thats about as simple as it gets.

That's mainly because vBT didn't have the licence system intergrated into it. Most of the users were probably pirates, when the licene system came, only a few hundred members verified (and could) their account to gain access to the forums.

This is correct, their are still alot of un-verified users in our member database.

just a guess.. but i would say they ask because it's easier finding this place than it is vbt.. not to mention, getting "permission" over there is sometimes as fast as the seasons changing..

There is nothing we can do about this, jelsoft is responible for the part of our system that updates your acount. Contact them about the issues, doing it here won't solve much of anything.

[Fargo]

I think what is needed are some tutorials and some content to liven it up. Give the site a portal page instead of dumping the (new) user right into the world of threads. Be creative with it - vbt has PLENTY to offer, but no one likes to search and search and seach.

Content is what you need - weather its little tips & tricks or full blown step by step tutorials.

I realize it all takes time, but if keeping the site alive is what you want to do, then you need to attract people.

My 2 pennies worth.

[Zachariah]

but no one likes to search and search and seach.



Speak for yourself. :p

[Wayne Luke]

vBulletinTemplates has had a hard year of setbacks. However, there is new staff and a vitality behind the scenes. Hopefully this will encourage growth over there. We at Jelsoft are doing everything we can to promote the site as an official site as well.

[AWS]

vBulletinTemplates has had a hard year of setbacks. However, there is new staff and a vitality behind the scenes. Hopefully this will encourage growth over there. We at Jelsoft are doing everything we can to promote the site as an official site as well.
I'm afraid vbulletintemplates will never be much more than it is now. It langiushed under bad management for too long.
It might be a good idea to combine that site into this one. All the resources in one place is much better than having it as fragmented as it is now. It confuses new license owners. They post a style question and are told to go to one place. Hack requests are sent someplace else.
To make things even more confusing there are also a number of non-official sites that offer hacks and styles.
I'm sure many newbies are overwhelmed by it all.

[MindTrix]

I must admit i was lost when i first purchased vBulletin, as things were here there and everywhere. In my honest opinion i think the OLD vBT staff did the best they could. Its not just up to them, but vbulletin users aswe;;, after all whats the point of staff on a site with no active members, im sure weve all been there. I feel maybe vBT should look more than it does though, as a template site you would wish to see some nice template mods ON the site up and working, if people see a vBulletin site that has been changed a fair bit template wise it will encourage them to search it more. Hope that makes sense, i just think it looks to much like a normal board for something that is offering template modifications.

[lasto]

the major problem is they have split the boards - now i dont see the point in that at all.So i need a hack i go to this board - now i need some help with a template modification and what happens they send me over to vb.com.Now i go to vb.com they reckon its changing the structure of the template so they advise me to go to vb.org and all this time my prob still has`nt been solved and in the meantime im being pushed from board and board.

(above is just an example - is not real)

so in my view hacks and templates modifications should all be on one board and not split.
Everything under one roof so to say.

[MindTrix]

I can see your point mate but i personally think it is much better on different sites. To me, vB.org stands out as a proper site, whereas vBT is behind. If someone here sent you to vB.com for a template thing then they are idiots :) If its a question about something in vb or a normal vb error or such such, then vb.com

If its changing vB's templates or styles then its vbtemplates.com etc :)


Also i think they were given their own sites to offer more support than all beeing in one place

[Dean C]

The division in the forums is to seperate the threads/posts/users and avoid confusion. Can you imagine how clogged up vBulletin.com would be with all the forums that are here and @ vBt :)

[MindTrix]

Sure i can because i have a great imagination :)

Dean what are your honest views?

[AWS]

If you look at UBB you'll find one official community for hacks and styles. UBB has an official support forum for each product. They also have UBB Central for hacking and styles. It's much better this way. If you have an unhacked board you use the Infopop support forums. If you have a hacked board or want style mods you go to UBB Central.
It works well this way. Here you have the 2 main addon and style communities seperated. Add in the fact that vbtemplates was mismanaged for so long you can't even consider it a viable option.
In an ideal world you would have the official support forums at vb.com. If you run a modded board or want help with a style you would be sent here.

[MindTrix]

Well that is your own opinion i guess, but i personally think everything is simple enough as it is and personally do not see why people are so confused with it

[lasto]

The division in the forums is to seperate the threads/posts/users and avoid confusion. Can you imagine how clogged up vBulletin.com would be with all the forums that are here and @ vBt :)

Lo Mist

yeah i can see why they split up and went seperate ways but im pretty certain vbull boards can handle a lot of users and with the board split into relevant sections i see no reason why they could`nt work together hand in hand on the same board - regardless of the amount of new posts etc.

Template sections top of the board - hacks to the bottom real easy really.
Everything in one place.

Im actually amased we aint got a seperate board for vb3 hacks while keeping this one to do vb2 hacks. (this is a joke actually :) )

Im deffo certain with the right organisation and decent mods and admins hacks and templates could live quite happily on the same board.As for vbtemplates never even been there so think get worse if there is 3 official board !!!!!!!!