Photo album

[filburt1]

It seems for whatever reason, photo album scripts are wicked popular recently (a la Photopost).

I kinda want in; I might make one if somebody can describe this for me:

1. What are the core features of one?
2. Why do people pay for Photopost and whatnot; what advantages (feature-wise) do the paid versions have?
3. Are there ones good enough for vB3 that I shouldn't waste my time?

[corsacrazy]

core features :

Each user has there own personal gallery where they upload and manage pics (based on usergroup)

each usergroup has a MB limit (set in acp)

url is simple , forums/gallery - main gallery
forums/gallery/member.php?u=USER ID

U can have sub galleries within ur own personal galery

Auto thumbnails (this is a MUST)

more to come but its 1 .10 AM here in london

[filburt1]

core features :

Each user has there own personal gallery where they upload and manage pics (based on usergroup)

each usergroup has a MB limit (set in acp)

url is simple , forums/gallery - main gallery
forums/gallery/member.php?u=USER ID

U can have sub galleries within ur own personal galery

Auto thumbnails (this is a MUST)

more to come but its 1 .10 AM here in london
Would these subgalleries be infinitely nested or only a master gallery with child subgalleries (and no subgalleries for the children)?

[corsacrazy]

ther is no master gallery, just each user uploads to there subgalleries

user
|
|
-------- gallery one (created in user cp)
|
|
____________________gallery two

main page
|
|
--------- random images from all galleries and ability to serch member galleries

there is no root gallery users can only upload wen they create there own personal galllery which ca have its own name ad description

[filburt1]

What would be some features that you (all) would want, both from an administrative and end-user standpoint?

[Dean C]

Heavy usergroup integration is a must :)

[corsacrazy]

user cp --- add/ edit specific album give it a description and have customisable extra fields we can add via acp

once u made an albumn u have options to upload pics and see ur quote, and also see the pics u have uploaded there

under each pic is an option to rename/delete it OR SET IT AS UR AVATAR ;)



acp- new page for every members gallery so u can edit there gallerys and del/pics per user

also is general settings like how much mb space does each usergroup have .

[filburt1]

There is a high degree of probability that I will make this. While I can't say this early whether it will be free or sold, it will sure be a hell of a lot cheaper than Photopost's ludicrous prices.

[corsacrazy]

IF SO pls bare in mind my suggestions as i will be willing to help with testing/ and ideas and im also willin to pay if u decide to have it sold

[13th_Disciple]

gallery doesn't necessarily have to be in a subdirectory under forums.. i have it at the same sub level as forums..

web root
|_forums
|_photopost

ability to create infinite catagories and subcatagories.. the user gallery bit seems as though it's an inherint feature of almost all galleries.. which is good because it gives people a larger feeling of participation..

absolute user integration with vBulletin.. i am extremely dissatisfied with the current level of integration of PP with vB.. 4images looks like a very, very good gallery.. but the integration isn't there, by what i have seen here.. and since i am not fluent in german, it does me no good to hang in their forums...

also, maybe an added small include script one could use for randomized pics that can be like a pic of the day for those with front ends.. this being a built in feature from any developer instead of an add on hack from the community, would definately create a bit more interest right off the bat.. and as an include, it could be easily added thru the phpinclude start template..

will add a bit more later..

[SpeedStreet]

It all depends what you are trying to accomplish, Filburt.

Uf you can integrate a gallery into the userprofile...that would be great.

Features from the end-user perspective:
GD/Imagemagick Resizing
Have a User Gallery that displays all galleries of users ala Photopost
Watermark and Hotlinking Protection
Integration with User Profile
User Comments and Ratings
..Maybe a Hot or Not type rating/randomization system?
Integration with Reputation system
State Tracking/ Featured Gallerys

Features from Administrative perspective
Set User limits on size, file size and number of photos per gallery
Moderator setup for galleries
Editing of photos, comments and users
User banning by usergroup to add/delete/moderate pictures

Let me know if you do go into developing this, Filburt. I'd like to offer my services as a creative consultant/project manager/UI developer if you are interested in building a team.

[filburt1]

Regardless of whether I would charge for it or not, I will not be hiring developers or other personnel (except possibly for translators, and the Spanish one would likely fall to the vBMS translator who did an excellent job). Sorry. :)

A clarification: when you mean integration with the reputation system, how would it integrate? The reputation system is designed for rating users, not pictures.

[SpeedStreet]

Regardless of whether I would charge for it or not, I will not be hiring developers or other personnel (except possibly for translators, and the Spanish one would likely fall to the vBMS translator who did an excellent job). Sorry. :)

A clarification: when you mean integration with the reputation system, how would it integrate? The reputation system is designed for rating users, not pictures.
Filburt,

I took it to PMs, since my idea is quite unique, and I don't want other galleries stealing it :D

[Giveit2u43]

There is a high degree of probability that I will make this. While I can't say this early whether it will be free or sold, it will sure be a hell of a lot cheaper than Photopost's ludicrous prices.
I hope you do decide to make this, if so I will be amongst the first purchasers or installers, I am highly satisfied with the vBMS mail system, and looking forward to the vb3 version and seeing the quality of the vBMS code makes me very excited about the possibility of a gallery from the same coder..

Features we would be wanting:

Favourites Gallery (with zip file download) a`la Photopost, so members can select a batch of there favourite pics and store them in there own gallery for quick viewing (with an acp usergroup limit on number of photos that can be stored)

A "new photos" indicator on the forumhome that is general for whenever a new photo is added, with maybe a link to a page that displays the latest pics with an acp limit on pics per pics and total latest)

a "new photo uploaded" indicator on a members profile with a link to the new photo and a link to the persons gallery..

No links or anyhing when the member does NOT have any photos to there gallery..

Comments & Ratings on Photos..

A universal gallery where all pics are shown by date they where uploaded, but user has an option for there photos to not be included in this gallery at time of uploading and when editing there picture.

The ability to tag a user so that you will recieve an EMail/PM Notification when they upload a new photo.

The ability to ignore a persons photos, but seperate from the ignore feature in vbulletin. and maybe for sites like ours where a lot of the pictures are pictures of the person themselves the ability to select photos by Gender, or profile fields set up by the admin for the same feature on a wider scope?

those are features we`ve discussed that we would like. I`m sure there`s more but that`s a good starting point.

I do hope you will decide to go ahead with this Filburt1.

[ap0c]

the ability to show zip and pdf files, so if a user wants to download them they can. Some galleries have the ability to upload pdf files, some with zip support, but none do both

[gmarik]

Filburt, I've used PhotoPost a lot and can tell you one thing - Coppermine 1.21 has more functions. What people really need:

1) a batch upload function
2) copyresized depending on is this a horizontal or a vertical picture, no of the commercial products had ever such an option, ir you've even seen those ugly pixel chunks, you would preffer some part of the photo to the blurry image we get via PhotoPost

Get it?

[sabret00the]

sorry i'm late and aint read the thread properly but i read something which i thought was crap, the worst feature in PP is the member galleries, the rest of the product is fine but that bit really lacks, i was hoping that by the time of vB3 final they would've had the option to remove it, but it's not there :(

[SVTBlackLight01]

filburt1,

Is this going to be a vB integrated only gallery? The biggest problem with the PP integration is that it integrates with 5 or more different forum's software and to have complete forums integration with all of these is just not practical from their standpoint.

That being said, a few suggestions I have just off the top of my head:

- Complete style integration with vBulletin
- Mass resizing of images for admins, not just thumbnails
- A 'View New Posts" feature similar to vBulletin
- vBulletin style postbit/reply comment system

- Most importantly, an importer for other gallery systems.

[b6gm6n]

I've tried all gallery softwares, and Photopost Pro (4.7i) is the best by far - who said 'upload batch options'? PP-pro can handle .zips, multiple upload file promts (any number you choose) directory upload system, the lot, you can also disable the members section (i saw that question to) you can do almost anything in PP, rebuild thumbs & images, resize, rotate, post comments, edit, upload all file types you choose, videos, style system , styles can be taken from vb, (can even have your gallery nested in your vb index (with-thumbs)), new posts features, moderation system, forum integrations, basically it's the best gallery soft out there, which other softwares get 'inspiration' from :)

-b6

[SVTBlackLight01]

<i>(4.7i)</i>. That is one problem. It took 9 tries to work out most of the bugs of version 4.7. I stopped upgrading a 4.7g, but as of that release there was still no option to mass rebuild images other than the thumbnails. Other than hacking, there is no way that I know of to use the vbulletin styles. It may be the best software out there but it is only due to a lack of alternatives. There are bugs in Photopost that have been there since the 3.X versions (e-mail notification problems, links to members photos when there are none, which has already been mentioned here once, and some others)

[filburt1]

filburt1,

Is this going to be a vB integrated only gallery? The biggest problem with the PP integration is that it integrates with 5 or more different forum's software and to have complete forums integration with all of these is just not practical from their standpoint.

That being said, a few suggestions I have just off the top of my head:

- Complete style integration with vBulletin
- Mass resizing of images for admins, not just thumbnails
- A 'View New Posts" feature similar to vBulletin
- vBulletin style postbit/reply comment system

- Most importantly, an importer for other gallery systems.
It will be run with vB's files, so integration is just unavoidable.

An import script is very unlikely.

[gmarik]

filburt1, not to annoy you, importing from PhotoPost would really make your script a "best-seller", because it was rather popular lately. Was.

[phenomenon]

After integrating 4images into my vb3 rc4, I have some suggestions and requests (my site is down currently while I'm waiting for vb3 gold, and after converting an old phpBB to vb 2.3.4, so sorry I can't show off the 4images):


Ability to integrate gallery into Forum wrapper: basically be able to use vb3 header, navbar, who's online, footer, copyright, etc.)
Integration with netPBM AND imagemagik -- both are free solutions.
administer gallery from ACP in vb3. I'm getting tired of logging into a billion diff control panels
Ability to place components on screen in manner in which we wish -- myVbIndex had this in vb 2.x version, where you could just place $header, $search, $navbits, etc. where you wanted them and create your own layout. I don't like Coppermine's huge random pics, latest pics, and tiny album bar if you've only got one album. I want control of how the elements are laid out between header/navbar/footer.
It would be nice to be able to place the gallery folder outside of the forum folder -- I have mine installed into htdocs/gallery and my forum in htdocs/forum
mass add to gallery/mass thumbnailing. 4images allows me to upload a large amount of files to a category folder, then has a built in import tool as well as a built in mass import -- the mass import just checks in that folder and adds contents. The thumbnail tool checks database to see if any images don't have thumbnails, and autocreates using netpbm
Ability to turn off gallery similar to turning off forum
right click-disable
lightbox
user comments to pics


Ok, that's my brain storm for the day. I'm subscribing to this so if you'd like clarification I should get a notify and check back.

[filburt1]

I do not see how mass import is possible because each image must include a title and optional description. How would I go about doing that for adding multiple pictures at once, except for the filename which was likely generated by a digital camera and therefore fairly useless?

I know there is Exif data but I don't think that includes any titles.

It would require GD2, not imagemagick or other libraries, as GD2 is the most popular and often used by vB3 itself.

[AN-net]

i am currently half way finished with my vb intergrated gallery. it doesnt have personal member galleries. i do have a comment system on there and i plan to be adding actual forum intergration where entries and comments are threaded to a specified forum etc. Anyways thats wut i got so far. If anyone wants to help just pm me:)

[phenomenon]

I do not see how mass import is possible because each image must include a title and optional description. How would I go about doing that for adding multiple pictures at once, except for the filename which was likely generated by a digital camera and therefore fairly useless?

I know there is Exif data but I don't think that includes any titles.

It would require GD2, not imagemagick or other libraries, as GD2 is the most popular and often used by vB3 itself.

In the mass import in 4images, I basically had to go through afterwards and add comments, etc. Didn't matter to me, as sitting there filling out each one and importing was a real pain.

[roxics]

I do not see how mass import is possible because each image must include a title and optional description. How would I go about doing that for adding multiple pictures at once, except for the filename which was likely generated by a digital camera and therefore fairly useless?

I know there is Exif data but I don't think that includes any titles.

It would require GD2, not imagemagick or other libraries, as GD2 is the most popular and often used by vB3 itself.

Is there a way you can just make the script rename the pictures file to a number? Then later people can just go back and retitle the images and add descriptions. A lot of people probably wouldn't care to add descriptions and titles anyway. Images should speak for themselves.

It doesn't matter what you do with the back end to me. Personally the problem in my mind with scripts like PP and Coppermine Gallery is that they are way to bloated on the user interface. They've got ratings and comments and smiles and everything but the kitchen sink. The user interface should be sleek and focus attention on the image and not the options.

If you can make the end interface look and feel like this: http://www.pbase.com/roxics
then you have a winner on your hands IMO.

[Sasha_Goodman]

Poor man's gallery wanted:

The hack could be simplified by piggy-backing on the attatchment system in Vb3.

Start with a resizing function for the attachments. It is on the list of "suggested features for vb 3.x" but it doesn't seem to be coming any time soon. Make a hack to add this feature now, so when they update the main body of code you no longer need to do your own updates. :D

There are already global settings for the maximum K of attatchements per user. It would be nice to have this tied in w/ usergroups, but for the po' man, it's a luxery.

The rest could be done with the addition of one query each to the showthread.php and forumdisplay.php files (to find the attachment ids), and the addition of a new display style that calls the attachements.

Advantage of doing it this way (integrating tightly with vB):
Ad hoc topic centered galleries, with original poster given the rights to close gallery.
Polls
Gallery rating (through thread rating)
User permissions allow user some control over their "gallery"
Good integration of "look and feel"
Email page

[MPDev]

Okay, for discussions sake, let's start at the top.

While I can't say this early whether it will be free or sold, it will sure be a hell of a lot cheaper than Photopost's ludicrous price ... I will not be hiring developers or other personnel

Well, the second would explain the first and once you had a user base your users would notice it. Supporting 10 users is alot easier than supporting thousands and if you aren't getting paid, you'll find that the time it consumes interfers with your ability to focus on those things which do make money (like a job).

a batch upload function

Of course PhotoPost has this feature and it can be used to batch upload thousands of images without intervention (I've uploaded 4,000 images at a time).

the worst feature in PP is the member galleries

Members Galleries can easily be disables and has been an option for some time (turn off display on main index and then disable upload permissions for category).

The biggest problem with the PP integration is that it integrates with 5 or more different forum's software and to have complete forums integration with all of these is just not practical from their standpoint.

From our standpoint it's quite practical (and from our users). It just might not be your preference. User authenication, usergroups, avatars, signatures, styles - not all forums get these features immediately, but we are focused on vB and Threads.

It took 9 tries to work out most of the bugs of version 4.7.

And the 30+ or so dot releases for vB2 were what? The reality of this remark is that the majority of our users were not effected by these minor updates - they were done as a courtesy for some of our less technical users. The truth is you only had to upload a handful of files at any time and most likely the issues didn't effect you.

It may be the best software out there but it is only due to a lack of alternatives.

There are plenty of alternatives - its just that PhotoPost was the first photo gallery to integrate with forums. Fact is, PhotoPost has innovated lots of ideas that are being copied (poorly in most cases) by others. We continue to set the bar higher for everyone else and will continue to do so.

4.8 with integration with vB styles is a good example - integration with signatures and avatars in 4.7 as another. Photos from Cell Phone Cameras is also an available integration - another first for photo galleries.

Providing additional scripts like Reviews and Classifieds/Personals with the same interface and integrations helps our users expand their offers which maintaingin a similiar interface.

There are bugs in Photopost that have been there since the 3.X versions (e-mail notification problems, links to members photos when there are none, which has already been mentioned here once, and some others)

This is simply not true.

----

I hope that addresses all of the PhotoPost-specific questions and issues that have been raised. At some point you might decide that your time is worth being compensated for, and charging a fee will be realtive to your costs and time assocaited with supporting the product.

[sabret00the]

Members Galleries can easily be disables and has been an option for some time (turn off display on main index and then disable upload permissions for category). how? and from what version?

[MPDev]

how? and from what version?

This goes back a long way (in the 3.X days).

In the Admin Option is an option "Display Members Gallery on the main index page?". In addition, in the Categories section you can uncheck uploads for all usergroups to prevent it from being listed as an option for uploads. (You may also want to set to Yes: "Do you want Members Gallery to show all of a users photos?").

[sabret00the]

oops, found it, nice one :)

[Natch]

I do not see how mass import is possible because each image must include a title and optional description. How would I go about doing that for adding multiple pictures at once, except for the filename which was likely generated by a digital camera and therefore fairly useless?

I know there is Exif data but I don't think that includes any titles.

It would require GD2, not imagemagick or other libraries, as GD2 is the most popular and often used by vB3 itself.
Mass-import with renaming is already there in vBulletin - you could prolly re-use the functions designed for mass-importing Avatars ... re-nameing them is just a trivial thing (ie you have to name each one and are prompted to do so with a list of x per page as the import process is happening)

[just a suggestion]

[msimplay]

i would say photopost is good when intergrated properly with Vbulletin but as a stand alone without hacking intergration is rubbish
it attempts to pull signatures from the forum but thats rubbish because they have a seperate bbcode system altogether

nothing matters more to me than intergration with vbulletin
ie a link to users gallery direct via if conditions
gallery post count
using bbcode direct same as you would in vb3 << choice of standard code editor or wyziwyg as defined in user cp
display latest photos on forumhome / vbadvanced
search for new comments or photos like vb3 new posts link
individual member galleries nomatter which catergory a user posts in

the above features << photopost does some of them however not all
as a standard gallery i don't think photopost is better than coppermine
its just the level of intergration that attracts me to photopost

i also think photopost charge too much for the gallery , because on its own coppermine would beat it many of my friends have said it to me

but its only the intergration that keeps me with photopost and that level of intergration isn't perfect

[MPDev]

You might not be surpised if I take exception to some of your remarks. It may not perfect in your eyes, but PhotoPost is still way ahead of any other applications in regards to its integration with vB3 (PhotoPost was the first photo gallery designed specifically for and to integrate with forums).

We are near release of 4.8 which includes integration with vB3 styles (also for Threads, phpBB2 and IB) and we are already looking into into deeper integration - the BB code we handle covers that vast majority of BB codes normally used in signatures. We also have a new configurable portal index page which you can see on http://www.photopostdev.com/photopost/index.php

We also offer alternative layouts http://www.michaelpierce.com/gallery/index.php for example.

Lastly, we also offer scripts for Product Reviews and Classifieds which all share a similiar interface and same levels of integration - giving webmasters more options of features to provide their community without spending alot of time customizing individual applications. BETA releases of both of these products also use vB3 styles, avatars and signatures.

PhotoPostDev contains many mods, I've written many myself - including a "pop up" selection of your gallery which auto inserts BB code directly into your post and a new mobile phone integration mod.

The "cost" of PhotoPost still makes it a bargin when you consider the alternatives and features we support that others do not.

[msimplay]

You might not be surpised if I take exception to some of your remarks. It may not perfect in your eyes, but PhotoPost is still way ahead of any other applications in regards to its integration with vB3 (PhotoPost was the first photo gallery designed specifically for and to integrate with forums).

We are near release of 4.8 which includes integration with vB3 styles (also for Threads, phpBB2 and IB) and we are already looking into into deeper integration - the BB code we handle covers that vast majority of BB codes normally used in signatures. We also have a new configurable portal index page which you can see on http://www.photopostdev.com/photopost/index.php

We also offer alternative layouts http://www.michaelpierce.com/gallery/index.php for example.

Lastly, we also offer scripts for Product Reviews and Classifieds which all share a similiar interface and same levels of integration - giving webmasters more options of features to provide their community without spending alot of time customizing individual applications. BETA releases of both of these products also use vB3 styles, avatars and signatures.

PhotoPostDev contains many mods, I've written many myself - including a "pop up" selection of your gallery which auto inserts BB code directly into your post and a new mobile phone integration mod.

The "cost" of PhotoPost still makes it a bargin when you consider the alternatives and features we support that others do not.
na u missed my points completely
i said it was good coz of the level of its intergration
however some things i outlined are what is missing
i'm sure there must be some way to use the vb3 bcode directly instead of having to create new ones all the time
because u forget that vb3 u can add ur own bbcodes
and in that respect if a user decides to use other bbcodes meaning the custom ones then the intergration goes out of synch again

also fair enough its intergrated well with vb3 however its not perfect because its not designed for vb3

its designed as a seperate script which intergrates with some things
thats where this thread comes into play with the intergration
because the gallery in this thread will be designed for vb3
with full vb3 template support

i did get my photopost intergrated with vb3 looks wise and other features
but it wasn't as simple as i would have hoped

i do not consider the level of support that photopost provides as a bargain
i feel that i get what i paid for
nothing more nothing less

[MPDev]

It's not that I "forgot" about adding BBCodes, it just that this is an evolution. The solution we have will work for the majority of our users - as we go forward we can look at tighter integrations that will benefit everyone.

Most people burn out working for free - commercial scripts provide a level of stability not always found in free products (Coppermine included). A dedicated support staff is just one of the benefits - there are many.

Given the complexity of integrating two applications like this, a little effort is to be expected.

[filburt1]

It's not that I "forgot" about adding BBCodes, it just that this is an evolution. The solution we have will work for the majority of our users - as we go forward we can look at tighter integrations that will benefit everyone.

Most people burn out working for free - commercial scripts provide a level of stability not always found in free products (Coppermine included). A dedicated support staff is just one of the benefits - there are many.

Given the complexity of integrating two applications like this, a little effort is to be expected.
Respectfully, you are bias towards supporting Photopost as you are developing software that relies on it.

[MPDev]

Sure, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't point out inaccurate statements made about it.

I fully respect that people have choices and would suggest that anyone research their options to see what best suits their needs.

Being active here is helpful to me to understand what people are looking for - in more than a few cases resulting in me coding mods for people - and staying up-to-date on vB-realted subjects. I hope that my involvement with PP doesn't preclude me from talking about it.

[msimplay]

It's not that I "forgot" about adding BBCodes, it just that this is an evolution. The solution we have will work for the majority of our users - as we go forward we can look at tighter integrations that will benefit everyone.

Most people burn out working for free - commercial scripts provide a level of stability not always found in free products (Coppermine included). A dedicated support staff is just one of the benefits - there are many.

Given the complexity of integrating two applications like this, a little effort is to be expected. The script that filburt is creating wont be for free but thats not the point
the point is as a vb3 user i don't care diddly about photpost being for x number for forums different forum softwares thats your concern
my concern is having a better intergration

I need it to be more for vb3 and thats what this album will provide
theres no way on earth that photopost can compete with something thats been developed just to intergrate with vb3
simply because photopost is designed to intergrate with many forums and not one architecture

even if you haven't forgotten about bbcodes
point is this that nowhere has there been a mention of how to do this bbcode intergration even as a hack
and i have seen that the question has been raised many times

also my original post was not to say that photopost is rubbish by any means
but to point out what this script can do that photopost may never be able to do simply because its designed to work with many forum types and not one specific architecture , which in this case being VB3

on top of that bbcodes would be only one side of the benefits of having a script thats designed to be fully and only for vb3

[sabret00the]

It's not that I "forgot" about adding BBCodes, it just that this is an evolution. The solution we have will work for the majority of our users - as we go forward we can look at tighter integrations that will benefit everyone.

Most people burn out working for free - commercial scripts provide a level of stability not always found in free products (Coppermine included). A dedicated support staff is just one of the benefits - there are many.

Given the complexity of integrating two applications like this, a little effort is to be expected. i'm with msimplay on this one, the bbcode integration sucks, just pull the vb bbcode and go from there, as it is, i still have issues with the gallery integration (lookswise) straight outta the box and can't even mod the templates as i dunno what belongs to what as the templates are uncommented (if you would like a screenshot feel free to mail me). apart from that the bbcode and the smilies are a real issue for me. but bar that it's a decent script, it's at this stage i would like to se the script split up more so different plugins work for different software and it can get quite specific on integration, such as latest photo on profile, etc.

it's not a bad script, just i would like to feel more in control of it.

[MPDev]

All very good comments - and I like to think that we are getting closer to providing all that and more. Since 4.8 hasn't been released yet, its a little premature for the mods to be flowing.

[MPDev]

Just a suggestion - for a truely integrated system that wouldn't be very difficult, you might consider this:

. make a new forum template that instead of displaying a line-by-line title format uses a gallery format and displays a thumbnail of the first posts attachment
. new topic in this forum would prompt for a file attachment and even allow you to enter a normal message

All of vB's internal attachment code would handle the imaging/thumbnailing and you'd get your postbits for replies, etc. A forum would have a gallery look as you would display the attachment thumbnail along with the title of the thread under the thumbnail.

Building on that you could easily develop an index page which sorted the photo by user.

Just some thoughts for a "truely" intergrated gallery within your forums.

[msimplay]

Just a suggestion - for a truely integrated system that wouldn't be very difficult, you might consider this:

. make a new forum template that instead of displaying a line-by-line title format uses a gallery format and displays a thumbnail of the first posts attachment
. new topic in this forum would prompt for a file attachment and even allow you to enter a normal message

All of vB's internal attachment code would handle the imaging/thumbnailing and you'd get your postbits for replies, etc. A forum would have a gallery look as you would display the attachment thumbnail along with the title of the thread under the thumbnail.

Building on that you could easily develop an index page which sorted the photo by user.

Just some thoughts for a "truely" intergrated gallery within your forums.
sounds good especially considering how good the vbulletins image management seems to be

[sabret00the]

sounds good especially considering how good the vbulletins image management seems to be
i don't like it, i like having the system somewhere seperate i.e. it's own directory, just would like it to use the same postbit styles, vBcode and smilies (that's it for now atleast) :nervous:

[MPDev]

I think most people would prefer a seperate section - plus, don't forget that systems like PhotoPost give you alot more flexibility you can't get with what I described.

[msimplay]

i don't like it, i like having the system somewhere seperate i.e. it's own directory, just would like it to use the same postbit styles, vBcode and smilies (that's it for now atleast) :nervous:
lol it goes without say it would be a seperate directory
ie a gallery php / files / but better intergration
most major hacks have seperate directories anyway in the example of ushop
arcade

[filburt1]

vB-powered products do not fare well in separate directories for a slew of reasons; this will definitely be in the root vB directory (but follow vBMS-style file naming...vbms.php, vbms_read.php, vbms_new.php...i.e., prefixes).

[SVTBlackLight01]

Given the complexity of integrating two applications like this, a little effort is to be expected.

It is rediculous to expect that. If integration (or any other feater) is offered, it should work 100% out of the box or the feature shouldn't be included. You would never hear a comment like that coming from any of the vb developers. You guys should worry more about making a quality product instead of just "way ahead of any other applications".

[msimplay]

It is rediculous to expect that. If integration (or any other feater) is offered, it should work 100% out of the box or the feature shouldn't be included. You would never hear a comment like that coming from any of the vb developers. You guys should worry more about making a quality product instead of just "way ahead of any other applications".
yeh i hear that saying way ahead of others limits the potential of the product because you measure the quality of the product by how much better you are than the rest

so its good why make it better etc
but i don't think MPDEV is sitting on his laurels either :p

and i also agree to the comment about 100% out the box however
it has to be noted that Photopost wasn't created with just vbulletin in mind
hence why the intergration problem in the first place.
even so after lots of hacking / changes i got my photopost working to a good standard

Its a double edged sword because fair enough i would like it to be fully intergrated with vbulletin , but maybe for smaller projects i'd use an IPB or WBB
its good to know that i can use the same software on all of the forums
saves me searching i can simply buy a new licence

hmm i hear Photopost 4.8 is making good advances

[MPDev]

It is rediculous to expect that.

:rolleyes:

Even configuring vB to your liking requires a little effort. Certainly no more effort is needed to integrate PhotoPost into your environment.

[msimplay]

:rolleyes:

Even configuring vB to your liking requires a little effort. Certainly no more effort is needed to integrate PhotoPost into your environment. i think we need an faq for generally used intergrations on photopost like
the navbar , gallery link in postbit

because i remember on the photopost / dev site i had to search quite a bit
to get answers

thats where the real effort was , and not in the actual coding
for example if i had those instructions from the very start it wouldn't have taken half as long

for example the header intergration was relatively simple compared to some of the other stuff :p

also if i knew from the beginning that photopost would intergrate easier with it being in the same database i would have just done that from the beginning :D

[MPDev]

There is an integration FAQ which outlines the steps in the PhotoPost forum which is stuck to the top of the Installation forum:

http://www.photopost.com/members/forum/showthread.php?t=97523

I think you are referring to some of the mods which were coded with same db integrations - not PhotoPost integration itself which can easily be in seperate dbs.

[msimplay]

There is an integration FAQ which outlines the steps in the PhotoPost forum which is stuck to the top of the Installation forum:

http://www.photopost.com/members/forum/showthread.php?t=97523

I think you are referring to some of the mods which were coded with same db integrations - not PhotoPost integration itself which can easily be in seperate dbs.
its not what i meant but i know what you mean
i was more towards the level of intergration that i have in terms of
postbit and profile links to gallery

ps i hope you don't take offense to this but i seem to be getting better photopost support here then i would at the official photopost site :p

[MPDev]

haha - well, we're just talking here; the support staff is very capable, although not all of them have extensive vb experience. Heck, even myself only got started recently with photopostdev.com!

[MaxScript]

I like this one
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/gallery.php

[ScottW23]

You would never hear a comment like that coming from any of the vb developers.

Ha! And exactly which applications has vb been designed to integrate with? ;)

As developers of a gallery application, we've accepted that for now at least, we're playing catch up to forum applications, since every site had a forum before they looked at getting PhotoPost. That meant we had to offer user database integration with existing galleries, otherwise users would have to login twice. Going beyond that, we now offer extensive integration with VB3 and Threads, allowing user selectable styles in PhotoPost that draw from your forum styles, showing photos and gallery listings on your forum page, etc.

As versions progress, the integrations will get better and easier to implement.

This is VB3 integrated with PhotoPost:
http://www.photopostdev.com/

[Kwak]

Hope this project is being continued.

[imported_infitech]

sorry i'm late and aint read the thread properly but i read something which i thought was crap, the worst feature in PP is the member galleries, the rest of the product is fine but that bit really lacks, i was hoping that by the time of vB3 final they would've had the option to remove it, but it's not there :(
why do u hate the member gallery so much?