Like everyone else, just curious

[Zach]

Everyone after they do one of these things is got this bug to hear what others think, so what a think?


Actually coded this one in like half a day, go figure, and its my favorite one I have made out of about, oh 50 themes, in the last few years.

This style is also only about 20 percent done from where its going, but as far as being a stand alone forum there is only a few minor issues (like avatars pushing out text and the such, stupid easy to correct stuff)

http://fantasysportswire.com/forumdisplay.html?forumid=361


I put a direct link to a forum for obvious reasons when you go in.

Also notice the two arrows on the top left under the logo, and the FSW next to them is the forum jump.

Long ways to go, and much better start this time than the last one I did that just about got me killed :)

[assassingod]

Ewww, frames.

[insanctus]

I agree eww frames lmao.

Besides that very very very slow load on my dail up :(

[Tony G]

Same, kills the dial up. So, eww frames too. :p

[Zach]

Its loading slow?

And I will never understand why people have a problem with frames, if they are done well. They can be made to be useful - and if you noticed you can remove them. The biggest reason I use the iframe is that have other things going on that make it so I need the parent.

I can buffer the content into the static page no problem, and I might, but at the moment I am sticking with the iframe. I am also going to on the redirect in flip people over to a toolbarless pop up, inform that I have done so and why, and then put in toolbars that look identical to IEs, an address bar that works, etc.

The slow has me concerned though, those pages are very low weight. Honestlly they are way way smaller than vbulletin.org and they are on a dual xeon thats mine.

[Zach]

I started to then didnt finish what my thought was on why I have frames.

First there is not frameset. Not even in the sense of a frameset like the admin section of vbulletins index file

So if you want to get technical about it, I do not have a frames page.

I do more or less have what came out to look like a classic frameset. The big big difference is that I have nothing stoping me from taking content accross what looks frameset borders - because they are not frameset borders. I can open up little mini dhtml windows that can work anywhere, I can load up vbulletn.org in the middle and the forumjump menu (fsw next to the arrows) will slide right over it - example - http://ReplyQuick.com/FSW?https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?s=&postid=429478#post429478


That all said, the biggest single reason was I saw no reason to make the user load the same menu on the left over and over and over and over and same for the header. This also allows me to pack in a ton of stuff in there, so the initial page load might take a second, but after that you never have reload anything except light thin pages.

[pie]

i really dont like the category and forums.

[Zach]

Yesterday at 07:16 PM pie said this in Post #7 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=429608#post429608)
i really dont like the forums.


That I can respect, though it has about zero value in the real scheme of things.



Yesterday at 07:16 PM pie said this in Post #7 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=429608#post429608)
i really dont like the category.


I have no clue why that has any bearing on anything. Who cares? I did not ask you to join, nor would I expect any normal right thinking person to. I would think posts in here would be constructive, I found this to be lacking or like what you did here.

I am just curious why basically all the answers to this post are about as informative as, I really dont like the category and eew frames? Is everyone here really 15 going on 12?

Hell Microsoft uses frames, very well I might add. frames are a tool, just like anything else. They should not be abused, but used properly they are nice to have at your disposal. The funnies thing about it all is that the frames are completely removable outside of a tiny sliver of green on the top. So your lack of liking frames is such a non issue. If a regular visitor to my site did not like frames they could just remove them, end of issue.

Or is the address in the address bar that big of a deal? Seriously. If thats it parden me while I laugh my ass off. Every page I have is linkable, I cut down load times dramatically for dial up users (and I have been talking to my users on dial up and they are all loving the speed, sayings its almost instantanous page loads for them) - which is cool, why have them download another 100K+ every page load, I might download at three to four million kiliobits, they dont. That menu system on the left could have only possible have been done in an iframe. Thre is already over five thousand options on it. I do not see me loading that into one menu and having them download it every page view.

That would be dumb.

Not to mention it will be over 20,000 and probably closer to 30,000 options in the next week or two, Ya dont like sports, cool. Again, I dont care. I was more interested in people looking at the design, not reading why I am so happpy to have Randy Moss and Daunte in the 60 team, five major fantay football websites interboard challenge.

Ok, I said nothing, so I will leave it at that. Just find it weird that you would even bother posting three words of meaningless drivel in threads like this.

[Zach]

Here is a real question.

I am just curious, if I buffered everything in. Would it make then make it ok? You would then have a one page website. One url. No other pages.

I have done it before with vbulletin forums, they are very easy to buffer in as they do not have much js. That makes em non frames. Even that menu on the left could be buffered with ease. (note: Menu on left is not my work, its all but the default work of Aaron Brockmans (I just removed the parts of that made it drag real bad)-why change more than you have to on perfection?)

Does that then make it cool? Senseless to me maybe but cool cause its not frames?