5+ Hacks ! Which one to choose ? Inputs Please !

[PurpleCow]

Hello,

I am obviously very interested in making my boards as easy as possible for the search engines to index on their serps, particularly Google !

And yes, As far as my knowledge goes, there are already 3 popular hacks on vB.org, namely :

Spider friendly URLs By fastforward (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18035) : This hack changes the actual URL's of the forums and threads, which is very interesting, b'cos it actually converts dynamic URL's to static URL's.

vbSpiderFriend - Search Engine Friendliness BY Overgrow (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15628) : This hack attepts at archiving the entire boards in the form of static URL's leaving the actual threads and forums links dynamic.

Have Googlebot Crawl EVERYTHING (theoretically) By filburt1 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50805) : This hack attempts to remove the session hash in the URL's when it detects Googlebot crawling the boards and hence making the job of Google bot easier to crawl the entire boards.

I am actually more inclined towards using fastfarward's hack as it permanently converts the dynamic url's to static ones. Then again, archiving the board also would be very useful in the long run as the boards Grow in terms of participation ( ref : overgrow's hack ).

So this can be achieved by using both the hacks. But what scares me is that, since the two hacks will have different static URL's for each thread and forum, Google might percieve my forums as spamming, which i obviously don't want to happen.

Any solution to using both without any problems ?? Like integrating those two and making them have a same URL.

I'd be interested to read/hear some feedback and inputs from those who are already using any of these hacks or a combination of the 3 !!

And I am using Stable version of 2.3.0 !

Thank you for your time !

Cheers

[PurpleCow]

I noticed two more hacks very similiar to OverGrow's hack.

vbArchive - Search Engine Indexer for vBulletin By TECH (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47667)

and

vB Easy Archive FINAL - Search Engine Spiderable Hack! Get your posts listed @ google - By SkuZZy (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47087)

Any diferences between OverGrows hack and these two.

I am particularly interested in integrating fastfarward's hack and any of the 3 Archiving hacks ( preferably Overgrow's or TECH's hack )! and my forum is installed in a subdomain like this : http://forums.mydomain.com

Thank you

[PurpleCow]

Okay, assuming that, I have installed fastforward's hack, Is there any hack to archiving without using its own url system or conect. I mean this archiving hack should consider/use the URL's of fastforward's hack for the archiving purposes, instead of its own system ?

Any such hack here ??

Thanks

[Erwin]

You should not need an archive hack with fastforward's hack. It works very well by itself. Why double up?

[PurpleCow]

Erwin - It ultimatley helps in Search engine's Indexing.
I strongly believe, An archive could act as a site map.

And now with fastforward's hack, if i can have the archive links also pointing to the same URL.....that would be great for search engines and particularly Google.

Now, If i use any other hack, which will have a different url in the archive than the one by fastforward's...Google might in the long run percieve this as spamming and ban my site from the index completly, which is scary.

Thank you for any help !

Cheers

[DiscussAnything]

from what i've seen, the archive is actually a dynamically generated archive. It's not an actual full html backup of your site, but is generated when needed. If acting as a sitemap it may be less clear in buildup than the actual forum though.

[PurpleCow]

I guess anything dynamically generated is generated only on demand, right ?? In that case Archiving is also the same.
Or am I missing something ??

As long as static URL's are visible to the SE bots, makes its life more easier when its indexing ur site, it should be fine.

Also, those Archives can be kind of Backdoors to our forums.

Thanks

[heynurse]

PurpleCow,

I am also looking to ad one of these search engine hacks and I am wondering which one is the prefered hack to use. My main goals is to get indexed in google and to get Google adsense text ads to be relevent to my content on the pages.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks

[SVTBlackLight01]

Someone should make this a poll. I will be adding one of these soon and could use some help deciding.

[PurpleCow]

Based on my SEO ( Search Engine Optimisation ) knowledge, I strongly feel, if some one can help us with a archiving hack which will integrate or have URL's of the fastforward's hack for the archiving purposes, Google would love the boards and its indexing job should work like a charm.

Infact, all the archiving hacks are perfectly fine, just that I wish, one of them could integrate fastforward's hack for the archiving purposes !!

Thank you

[Brad]

The archive hack and fastforwards will work togther as they are, you just need to change the links to the atcual forums and threads in the archive the the static url's.

[Brad]

Yesterday at 04:58 PM SVTBlackLight01 said this in Post #9 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=423225#post423225)
Someone should make this a poll. I will be adding one of these soon and could use some help deciding.


IMO the way to go about it would be this, install fastforward's hack to turn the url's into static one's. On top of that install filburt's hack to strip the sessionhash, this makes it easyer for google-bot to spider the forums and threads on the board. Last but not least back the whole thing up with one of the archive hacks. I recomend TECK's personaly, ive used it and a few other of his hacks and they are all soild. Tho im sure skuzzy's and overgrow's are good to. :)

[Brad]

Yesterday at 04:58 PM SVTBlackLight01 said this in Post #9 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=423225#post423225)
Someone should make this a poll. I will be adding one of these soon and could use some help deciding.


IMO the way to go about it would be this, install fastforward's hack to turn the url's into static one's. On top of that install filburt's hack to strip the sessionhash, this makes it easyer for google-bot to spider the forums and threads on the board. Last but not least back the whole thing up with one of the archive hacks. I recomend TECK's personaly, ive used it and a few other of his hacks and they are all soild. Tho im sure skuzzy's and overgrow's are good to. :)

[PurpleCow]

Anime-loo :

I understand that, both fastforward's hack and say TECK's or OverGrow's hack can exist together ( infact - fastforward himself uses Overgrow's hack along with his own - i read it in one of his posts ), but, I basically want the archiving hack to have the same URL's of the fastforward's hack instead of having its own static URL mechanism.


On top of that install filburt's hack to strip the sessionhash, this makes it easyer for google-bot to spider the forums and threads on the board.

I mean, once fastforward's static url's hack is installed, i guess we'll not be seeing any session hashes in the URL's. If that is the case, would u suggest this a necessity to install.

you just need to change the links to the atcual forums and threads in the archive the the static url's.

Could you please explain in detail, how to do this ??

I am yet to install any of the hacks for SEO purposes, so, i should get it right from experienced ones here.

Thank you in advance

Cheers

[Khashyar]

I appreciate all of the informative and interesting conversations regarding forum spiderablility software...

I was wondering if a forum can install 2 of the archiving software programs (like VB Easy Archive and VBarchive) without being considered "spamming" a search engine?

The reason why I am mentioning this is because I am wondering if each of these two archive hacks might be more appealing to different search engines and will allow different thread results to be indexed.

I currently have VB Easy Archive installed, and I have had only 109 of the 600 threads listed in Google for the past 4 weeks (I installed the software in late June of this year, so it seems that after 1 1/2 months, Google is "stuck" on 109 threads in my forum :) )

I am also going to install Filbrt's hack, since it looks so easy to install and seems that it could only help.

Do you guys think that Google or other search engines will consider our website as spamming if we have two archives (with slightly different looks) on our website?

I would appreciate your feedback about this.

Khashyar
www.russianmeetingplace.com/forums

[PurpleCow]

Khashyar - First of all no SE other than Google will drive quality traffic to your site for FREE ! Most of the Se's , you'll have to pay for incluysion, spidering, consider for inclusion and whatever.
So, lets primarily concentrate on Google here.

I was wondering if a forum can install 2 of the archiving software programs (like VB Easy Archive and VBarchive) without being considered "spamming" a search engine?

Why would you want to do this. i don't think two different SE's will need two types of archives and even if it matters, i am sure, you don't have to sacrifice Google for the other as others are almost of no use in terms of driving free traffic.

But, if u still wann go ahead and install two archiving hacks, I am afraid, google might percieve it as spamming. Now, once u are tagged as spammer by google, you are first out of Google index and it will take a lot of effort and a couple of yrs of convincing google that, you are actually not trying to spam. are you willing to take that risk...could be quite dangerous !?

What i am trying to request here is :
Install fastforwards' hack...which will actually convert all ur dynamic ur's to static url's. Now this will help your forums SE-Friendly ( anyone for that matter ). Now coupled with this is another archiving hack, which will actually have the URL's system of what fastforward's hack gives to pages.
So in effect, you end up having the archive with the URL's same as that given by fastforward's hack. No spamming...not to be scared also.

I wish, i knew how to integrate it myself, unfortunately, i am more of an ideas and strategies person and less of a techie... ( no coding knowledge )...hence i had to request this integration here.

Thanks if anyone can spare their valuable time and help us out with this integration.

Thank you very much !

[Khashyar]

Thank you, Purple Cow, for your feedback.

Good luck with receiving answers to your questions...

Khashyar

[PurpleCow]

Anyone know, which is the Archiving hack used by Fastforward at his Forums here (http://dbforums.com/arch/) ??

This hack differs in a way that, it actually seperately lists the threads that happened in different months of any given year !!!

Is that hack available for download at vb.org.

Thank you very much.

[michaelab]

My personal preference is Overgrow's vbSpiderFriend because it doesn't require any ForceType/mod_rewrite directives and it requires virtually no messing with the standard vB code (none at all IIRC).

Works very nicely for me :)

Michael.

[Zachery]

My personal preference is Overgrow's vbSpiderFriend because it doesn't require any ForceType/mod_rewrite directives and it requires virtually no messing with the standard vB code (none at all IIRC).

Works very nicely for me :)

Michael.
my personaly prefrences is vb3 ;)