Will I have to upgrade to 2.2.9 before I upgrade to 3.0?

[Gutspiller]

Will I?

What are the best programs to help a noobie that has never updated their VB before? Even if I have a bunch of hacks, is upgrading going to break them? :nervous:

[[Fx]AssAssiN]

No, as long as you have a 2.xx board you can upgrade. Also, hacks you have installed shouldent affect the upgrade. I went from 2.2.3 to vB3 Beta 3 with no probs at all.

[Gutspiller]

Does anybody know how close 3 is to be released? Am I going to be waiting another month or another 6 months?

[[Fx]AssAssiN]

There is defiantly going to be a Beta 5 then if all is good the first RC. Maybe another if they still find some bugs

[Erwin]

Today at 03:38 PM [Fx]AssAssiN said this in Post #2 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=414872#post414872)
No, as long as you have a 2.xx board you can upgrade. Also, hacks you have installed shouldent affect the upgrade. I went from 2.2.3 to vB3 Beta 3 with no probs at all.

It's recommended to upgrade to 2.2.9 or 2.3.0 first before upgrading to 3.0.0. This is because 2.2.9 and 2.3.0 have a DIFFERENT database structure to previous versions.

From the README.HTML file by Kier in the vB3 Beta ZIP:


To upgrade, to vBulletin 3 your existing installation must be running vBulletin 2.2.9 or 2.3.0.


So upgrade to 2.2.9 or 2.3.0 if you want to avoid database problems and corruption in the future. :)

[[Fx]AssAssiN]

actually, that is what I had before upgrading.
Cant remember all those numbers :lick:

[Erwin]

That's good that you clarify this - don't make other members upgrade their forums and crash them. :)

[Gutspiller]

Today at 01:00 AM Erwin said this in Post #5 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=414888#post414888)
So upgrade to 2.2.9 or 2.3.0 if you want to avoid database problems and corruption in the future. :)

My support has expired, so how much will I end up forking over again? I looked here: http://www.vbulletin.com/order/ and couldn't find anything for someone in my situation.

Also, once I get support again, I should easily be able to upgrade to 2.3.0 correct? (since I figured higher is better and that's what you suggested)

I was told once, what are those search and replace proggies that help you compare code and update files by code? Are there any that are more noobie friendly than others?

Is updating the php files all that's required to upgrade versions? I don't actively backup my site, but my host says they backup every night. So as long as I download all my php and other main files I shouldn't have to worry about the actual database right?

How long are we talking for doing this transfer? I run a rather old, highly hacked version.

Is VB 3.0 beta open to the public? and if so, if I decided to upgrade and go to 3.0 Beta, will there be a big difference in 3.0 beta and the full 3.0? I ask that because I'm not looking forward to going through all my files and updating them as there is quite a bit of tweaking thats been done. :dead:

[Sin City]

support is going to be $30 i believe..... as far as the BETA version and the final version..... i am sure they will be quite different.... i have seen one of the beta versions on a site i go to and there are some bugs and the look isn't as clean as the older versions.... i'd just wait :)

[Xenon]

@Gutspiller: if you jsut upgrade because you want upgrade to vb3, you don't need any file comparison.

just uploade the needed upgradexx.php files and run them in the right order, afterwards upload the vb3 files.
it's just recommended to have vb230 because of the db structure, and the structure you'll have after calling the upgrades.php ;)

[filburt1]

For this upgrade, though, you don't have to edit the PHP files. Just run the upgrade scripts because as previously mentioned only the database is relevant.

[Gutspiller]

Today at 05:32 AM filburt1 said this in Post #11 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=414942#post414942)
For this upgrade, though, you don't have to edit the PHP files. Just run the upgrade scripts because as previously mentioned only the database is relevant.


Now I'm confused. I thought you said it would screw stuff up? I don't just want to run VB3. I need my site exactly how it is now, but with the security of VB3. I don't want VB without my 70+ hacks installed. I need all my hacks that I have now, working in VB3 or at least the latest version before 3 if 3 is going to be tons of changes.

The whole reason I never did upgrade before is because I was told that you have to compare each file and paste and copy code line by line to keep your hacks from a previous version of VB. The fact is, if it wasn't for the security concerns, I would simplyjust hack my old version more to make it feel like what I want it to. I've taken a look at the beta board running VB3 and I don't care for the design one bit.

So will I have to compare and relplace if I want all my hacks? :nervous:

[Erwin]

You cannot use vB2 hacks for vB3. Different code, different functions, different variables.

[SmEdD]

Massivly diffrent. Anyways 99.9% of the decent hacks are there. Only ones they need to add is onlinetoday and the microstats.

[Gutspiller]

Today at 09:07 PM Erwin said this in Post #13 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=415150#post415150)
You cannot use vB2 hacks for vB3. Different code, different functions, different variables.


So you're saying if I want to keep any of my hacks let alone the 70+ i have install I won't be able to upgrade to VB3? :eek:

And for most hacks being in VB3, sorry but I truely doubt that. I have weird hacks working together including 12 forums providing gaming news. I truely doubt VB3 could do half of what I'm doing now out of the 'box'. I'm sure it will be great, but not great enough for me to spend another year or so with VB3 to recode everything I already have.

OK, so which is the latest version of VB right now? That will most likely be what I upgrade to as long as all my hacks will work with it and then I will be done updating my VB with official updates. Any VB security fixes really should be made so they can be applied to old boards without having to update to the latest VB. I ain't forking over 30 bucks every year just for the fun of it. :p

Thanks for clearing this stuff up. So if I get resupported after paying 30 bucks, I will update to the latest version. There won't be any other VB releases between what's out now and VB3 right? I want the latest one before VB3 is actually released. So if another 2xx is going to come out, then I don't think I want to upgrade yet. I have enough files I'm only going to 'want' to do this once. :disappointed:

Thanks Guys!

[Erwin]

vB 2.3.0 is the latest stable version and the last vB 2 that will be released, that is compatible with your current hacks.

[Gutspiller]

Thanks a bunch Erwin. Hopefully 2.3.0 is pretty hack proof. :nervous:

Maybe when VB4 comes out I will be willing to make the jump. :laugh: That or I will be making enough that I can pay one of you to do the dirty work. ;)

[SmEdD]

And for most hacks being in VB3, sorry but I truely doubt that. I have weird hacks working together including 12 forums providing gaming news. I truely doubt VB3 could do half of what I'm doing now out of the 'box'. I'm sure it will be great, but not great enough for me to spend another year or so with VB3 to recode everything I already have.

The hacks that make since bsides a couple. Like they have quick reply, quote quick reply, today/yester day and a ton more in there.

[Gutspiller]

Today at 02:15 PM SmEdD said this in Post #18 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=415332#post415332)
The hacks that make since bsides a couple. Like they have quick reply, quote quick reply, today/yester day and a ton more in there.


good fer VB3. :p

I'm not undoing all my work just for VB3.

[Chris M]

Yesterday at 11:12 PM Gutspiller said this in Post #19 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=415354#post415354)
good fer VB3. :p

I'm not undoing all my work just for VB3.

Remember - Alot of your hacks can be ported over with a little code and template editing, alot may become irrelevant, and some may be re-released by the Hack authors for vB3;)

Satan

[Gutspiller]

Today at 06:00 AM hellsatan said this in Post #20 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=415444#post415444)
Remember - Alot of your hacks can be ported over with a little code and template editing, alot may become irrelevant, and some may be re-released by the Hack authors for vB3;)

Satan
Erwin said: You cannot use vB2 hacks for vB3. Different code, different functions, different variables.

From what he said it sounds like VB2x hacks wont work on VB3.


????

[Tony G]

I think what he's trying to say is that it requires little effort to port the hacks over to vB3. vB2 hacks won't work with vB3.

[Gutspiller]

Today at 06:25 AM Lord Dexter said this in Post #22 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=415450#post415450)
I think what he's trying to say is that it requires little effort to port the hacks over to vB3. vB2 hacks won't work with vB3.


Oh well I'm using an old version and adding 2.2.6 and .9 hacks all the time. Most people don't realize that many of the hacks work on really old versions. :smoke: It's actually pretty cool. People are always like, "Will this hack work on 2.2.6?" I going through the thread after I installed it and get it working, because I'm getting it to work fine with 60-70 other hacks I have installed and running on 2.0.x :D

So if that's the same trouble I will be having appling 2xx hacks to VB3, then it's not as bad as I thought.

I even noticed a large hack that will allow multiple attachments for 2xx and that has been a big factor in me deciding to only upgrade as far as version is taken by the development team. If VB3 is released and I see it running on a lot of boards or people make some insane hacks for it that are a must have for me, I will consider upgrading to VB3, but most likely I don't think there is any type of hack that would be interesting enough to me, to make me upgrade to VB3. I think upgrading to the latest 2 VB version is going to take a good week or so of my time that I have to code the site. After all I've spent over 2 years adding hacks to my board. :rambo:

[Erwin]

Trying to make a 2.2.0 hack work for 2.2.6 or vice-versa is different to trying to make a 2.2.x hack work for 3.0.0 - 2.2.x uses the same variables and functions. 3.0.0 has been TOTALLY recoded. :)

[Gutspiller]

Today at 01:00 AM Erwin said this in Post #24 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=415619#post415619)
Trying to make a 2.2.0 hack work for 2.2.6 or vice-versa is different to trying to make a 2.2.x hack work for 3.0.0 - 2.2.x uses the same variables and functions. 3.0.0 has been TOTALLY recoded. :)


Oh. :) OK. Well, I'm good with running the latest version of 2xx when I upgrade. I figure since VB3 isn't being released too soon, or in a big rush, that there aren't any known security bugs in the latest 2 version and that is mainly what I'm looking for.

Thanks for the help on this dicision.