vB3 Beta Release [Discuss]

[assassingod]

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=466960#post466960

:cheeky: :D

[N9ne]

Yep Yep and Yep! I've told about 6 people about it now including you, it's too exciting, lets see, when I first get vB3 installed, I'm gonna temorarily ban someone because guess what, it's a feature ;).

[Hobbes]

That's right.....THIS FRIDAY IS THE DAY!!!

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=73226

for the announcement itself...

also: I hope the hack authors remake their hacks...:D

[assassingod]

<a href="https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54187" target="_blank">https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showt...threadid=54187</a>

and i'm remaking all my hacks

[Rose]

:D Sweeetness!!! It would figure when I just upgraded a testboard today to 2.3.0. ;) *lol*

Now if I go wash my car, maybe it'll rain .....

[Rose]

*lmao* I thought you said "Terribly Ban" someone. *giggles*

Yay! *dances* I don't think I'll be able to sleep 'tween now and then.

[Hobbes]

Boooooooo:(!! you beat me to it!! oh well :D

[rake]

I know i'm probably going to be bashed by an angry mob of vbulletin owners, but i would have loved it to be released next friday instead of this one, since i've got exams next week, monday-thursday. And i wanted to be one of the first people to release a hack for vb3! :(

[N9ne]

Today at 08:08 PM Rose said this in Post #3 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407632#post407632)
*lmao* I thought you said "Terribly Ban" someone. *giggles*

Yay! *dances* I don't think I'll be able to sleep 'tween now and then.


Haha, I meant to say Temporarily but typing long words is impossible when you're excited :banana: :bunny:

[drives fast]

needs more work....the page loading and transition times are soooooooooo slooooooooow now that I wouldn't think about upgrading my site to that one

[DrkFusion]

Umm...:bananadance: ??

[Rose]

Today at 02:25 PM N9ne said this in Post #6 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407640#post407640)
Haha, I meant to say Temporarily but typing long words is impossible when you're excited :banana: :bunny:


Apparently reading long words is impossible, too. I've not done a bit of work since I heard the news. Err, saw it posted. *lol*

[bgtking]

Friday the 13th.... hope nothing goes wrong!

[Chris M]

Sure that is not just your connection;)

vB3 is faster than vB2 for me;)

However, some features (like Karma) and their QRB (Quick Reply Box) are not to my liking;) But luckily, I think we can turn Karma off, and the QRB is just template edits:)

Satan

[drives fast]

not my connection....this site flies......com is dragging a**

[N9ne]

What could go wrong ;)

[Chris M]

Then it must be your computer;)

As stated, vB3 is much faster than vB2, and even though every site flies for me, I see an improved speed with vB3;)

Satan

[Rose]

vB.com may just be dragging a bit now due to the ..... load there. Is it all v3.0 sites that drag for you?

[Hobbes]

everythign :o :bunny::banana:

ima hecka download lol...:D



Edit: ima hecka download lol...:D
...man iam weird :confused:

[Xenon]

why are you so exited?
you've waited so long, there must have been a time when they finish it ;)

Also i believe in murphy's law, it was right in the past so i expect it for the future, too.
* Xenon is waiting to see what will really happen

[Xenon]

As we decided together with the devs:

It is a BETA release. Also if it's for public it's beta, so there won't be official hack support on vb.org until it's in RC state.
No vb3 hacks will be released here during this beta stage.

[N9ne]

Today at 10:14 PM Xenon said this in Post #12 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407695#post407695)
why are you so exited?
you've waited so long, there must have been a time when they finish it ;)

Also i believe in murphy's law, it was right in the past so i expect it for the future, too.
* Xenon is waiting to see what will really happen


Even you are excited, you spelled excited as exited :p

[Hobbes]

Today at 02:25 PM N9ne said this in Post #13 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407701#post407701)
Even you are excited, you spelled excited as exited :p


*crowd oooooo's* lol....ima go on house shut down....and jus lock myself in meh room...:D:bunny:

[Xenon]

Today at 23:25 N9ne said this in Post #13 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407701#post407701)
Even you are excited, you spelled excited as exited :p


i'm sorry, that i'm not as good in english as i want to be.
Next time i'll write in german if you want to, then i can avoid typings even more.....

Why should i be excited?
Heck it's just code. I'm intrested in how it'll look, how good they've coded, but if it takes another 10 year i won't have a problem with it, i can also work with vb2, so no need in beeing excited

[Rose]

*points to Stefan* Negative Nancy. ;)


Of course there's excitement. This is a much awaited "official" release date! :-D

[N9ne]

Xenon, you amaze me! You're not one little bit excited!

Can't you wait for the new hacking challenge once we get vB3...? To read the code and learn how vB3 works?

I for one will have to firstly learn how on Earth vB3 works because it was re-written...

[Xelation]

Today at 05:18 PM Xenon said this in Post #9 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407697#post407697)
As we decided together with the devs:

It is a BETA release. Also if it's for public it's beta, so there won't be official hack support on vb.org until it's in RC state.
No vb3 hacks will be released here during this beta stage.


hey xenon, do you have any plans for vb.org as in new design?

[Xenon]

@Rose
Hey, i'm well known as a very realistic person within my friends ;)
Ok others call it pessimistic, but i think that's the same :)

Also it is not an officials release date, it's just a BETA release, and you know what can happen in betas ;)

[Rose]

Today at 04:39 PM Xenon said this in Post #18 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407712#post407712)
@Rose
Hey, i'm well known as a very realistic person within my friends ;)
Ok others call it pessimistic, but i think that's the same :)

Also it is not an officials release date, it's just a BETA release, and you know what can happen in betas ;)


yes yes. I use the "realistic" card, too when I'm being negative. ;) :p (seriously though, no offence meant)

And release is release - beta or no. Like many others, I can't wait to get my hands on it, beta or no, to see it. Feel it. Stare at it. Watch it. *lol* Oh, and play with it, of course.

[Xenon]

@N9ne:
Why, i have enough challenge on vb2 and other coding works i do.
Ok it's nice to enter a new field, but i'm entering new field more often than just when a new vb comes out ;)

Also i don't even have the time to get excited, my work as a student has to stay prior vb works, and excitement wouldn't really help :)

[Xenon]

Today at 23:41 Rose said this in Post #19 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407715#post407715)
yes yes. I use the "realistic" card, too when I'm being negative. ;) :p (seriously though, no offence meant)

And release is release - beta or no. Like many others, I can't wait to get my hands on it, beta or no, to see it. Feel it. Stare at it. Watch it. *lol* Oh, and play with it, of course.

:) It's obvious, as life isn't that positive as we want to have it.
So seeing the negative aspects is just realistic :)

*gg*
You sounds like a young girl i know very good, who is excited of her first boyfriend which she wants to test...... (i won't go in details ;))
(also no offence)

It's nice if you really enjoy also the beta release, but i can't share your happyness or excitement, sorry ;)

[Xenon]

Yes i have some plans, currently they are discussed with the other admins, but if you have any ideas, feel free to post them in site feedback or per PM if you want em stay private :)

[Rose]

Today at 04:45 PM Xenon said this in Post #21 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407718#post407718)

*gg*
You sounds like a young girl i know very good, who is excited of her first girlfriend which she wants to test...... (i won't go in details ;))
(also no offence)




*smiles politely and stares blankly* I won't ask. *lmao* *still laughing*

You dun't have to share in the excitement. I have enough to cover both of us. ;)

[Xenon]

oooooops, i meant boyfriend, not girlfriend....
*correcting*
well at least you got what i meant ;)

ok, thx.
it's good to know someone has got the excitement i lost long time ago ;)

[Rose]

Today at 04:56 PM Xenon said this in Post #23 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407723#post407723)
oooooops, i meant boyfriend, not girlfriend....
*correcting*
well at least you got what i meant ;)

ok, thx.
it's good to know someone has got the excitement i lost long time ago ;)


*LMAO!!!* No, I didn't quite get what you meant, I think it sounded funnier with the "girlfriend". At least that's why I laughed so much (and still am laughing!)

I won't comment much, but it's truly sad when a person loses their excitement, even for the little things. :( I'm a realistic person, with an emphasis on positivity. :D

[grog6]

Cool :p

It will be a rain of hacks when this BETA will be in RC :)

[Chris M]

Perhaps;)

Maybe people will be content with vB3 as standard...

*realises what he just said*

So Bastien - How many hacks do you think released in the first hour?:p

Satan

[filburt1]

Specifically, we already have a crude forum structure set up for vB3. We just don't have the hack db the way we want it, etc.

[MentaL]

i dont like the look of vb3 i prefer 2.29 tba

[majin gotenks]

Hopefully it will be out friday!

[blackice912]

Today at 02:44 AM mentalrz said this in Post #15 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407827#post407827)
i dont like the look of vb3 i prefer 2.29 tba

You do know that it's been said over a thousand times that the style there isn't the final one, right?

[Erwin]

Friday, here we come!

And I have an exam this weekend too!!! :(

[Xenon]

Rose, i just meant you sounded as excited as a girl before her real first practical experience in sexual things ;)
it's nice to see someone can be as excited :)

oh part two:
You know Mark Twain:
"There is nothing more awful to see, than an young pessimistic.
Except an old optimistic"
(I don't know the exact quote, as i have retransletet it from the german translation ;))

[grog6]

@ Chris : I don't know exactly ... but I only will discover vb3 on saturday (wednesday, I'll go out in Belgium :-/ )

I think the first thing I'll do is, first of all, to look at the new code used for vb3, understand good how it works ... and then to convert some of my hacks from vb2 to vb3 ... and after I'll see if I have good hacks ideas :)

[trafix]

Erwin .... i presume that they are talking firday their time which means that we will get it on Saturday..... lol .... You realise that we will have to wait a bit longer

[insanctus]

I would have been excited over this if it would have come out before all the hacks I added in.

All those little goodies users and admin get used to playing with daily.

I plan do download vb3 then install it on a test section. Once all hacks back in then I will convert over.

[Erwin]

Yeah, Saturday. LOL! :)

[Erwin]

I merged both the vB3 threads - please keep discussion to this one thread. :)

[Dean C]

I'm not excited either. vb3 for me will signal a lot of problems. Many other surrounding boards in the same genre as my board will upgrade as they are barely hacked and want to jump on the vb3 bandwaggon. Then there's me with my feature-packed and custom-hacked board that is going to have to wait for all the hacks to be ported over... only thing that excites me right now is the thought of getting waster all summer after i finish my exams ;)

- miSt

[supernut]

Yesterday at 10:18 PM Xenon said this in Post #21 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407697#post407697)
As we decided together with the devs:

It is a BETA release. Also if it's for public it's beta, so there won't be official hack support on vb.org until it's in RC state.
No vb3 hacks will be released here during this beta stage.


does this mean that any hacks created/converted for VB3 Beta cannot be posted on this site so we can all try them out ?

if not, anyone plan to set something up so hack can be released to us ?

i know beta is beta and changes can come fast, but there should still be a place for us to get them even if they are not supported ?

[MentaL]

Today at 03:58 AM blackice912 said this in Post #41 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=407847#post407847)
You do know that it's been said over a thousand times that the style there isn't the final one, right?
lets wait and find out :0

[Xenon]

@supernut: it's the wish of the developers that they could get real beta related bugs and not hack releated bugreports.
That's why we decided not to allow hack posting of vb3 hacks while it's in Beta stage.
The vb3 hacking forums will be opened in the second the first RC can be downloaded but no second before

[supernut]

Today at 02:33 PM Xenon said this in Post #52 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=408038#post408038)
@supernut: it's the wish of the developers that they could get real beta related bugs and not hack releated bugreports.
That's why we decided not to allow hack posting of vb3 hacks while it's in Beta stage.
The vb3 hacking forums will be opened in the second the first RC can be downloaded but no second before

i never ment anything bad from my comments, but as your not going to allow any VB3 Hacks posted until RC release, i am just wondering if someone is going set something up until then so people that do want to install hacks onto a beta version can

[Xenon]

i never intended you meant anything bad :)

as for your question: i haven't heard of one.
there won't be (of course) any official hack sites for vb3 beta hacks, and i think most good hackers won't make the live of the devs harder than it is, so i think everyone will just prepare it's hack and wait until vb3 goes rc :)

[Chris M]

Too right too;)

It's bad enough for poor old John and co when they get bug reports for vB2 when hacks have caused the problems - Let them be, and let vB3 reach RC before hacking becomes an element;)

Satan

[colicab-d]

i know its abit of one of those things last on there list, but i would maybe finish up a few of the images for the defualt vb3 style before giving it out.. me i dont mind im gonna see what kinda style i can make with it from the box, will make my own images etc, but what about folk who are anxious to upgrade ?

[DrkFusion]

I am excited, coming from a Phpbb background, transitioning to VB (with a bit of oral advice :p) its members and vB has progressed alot, and vB3 will be a new landmark that will be placed in the centre of the village that will mark the history of vB and its members, its progress, its achievements and much more. The release of vB3 in my opinion has much significance.

Lets all hope the vB3 release is a smooth one, their servers for sure will be loaded with users trying to download, maybe some of us won't even get a chance to download it this month, if all their bandwidth runs out :p

[N!ck]

I'm sure they host their own site.

[Erwin]

Another reason why we do not want to release vB3 Beta hacks, and prefer to wait till at least vB3 RC.

A post by DJE on vB.com which explains it well:


in vb2, all the text is directly in the templates, and to translate the forum, you have to edit each and every template manually.

in vb3, the developpers thought it might be easier to develop a "language system". This system is pretty simple. In the admin CP of the forum, you'll have a bunch of words and phrases that you will be able to translate, without relation to where they appear on the forum (stuff such as "Edit", "View", "Send a P.M.", etc.) These tidbits of text will be used through all the templates, using php code. So if you translate "View" in the admin CP, it will translate it everywhere in the templates where the php code linked to "View" is.

but now there is a catch: since the style has not been developped yet for vb3, the old vb2 templates are still used for the beta, which means that they still contain all the text directly instead of the php code that works with the language system. editing those templates would be useless, as they will be modified for the gold release. However, translating the stuff in the "language system" in the admin CP is usefull, cause this stuff will be used in the final style. So you can start translating this stuff right away, and when the gold is released, all you will have to do is translate the new words/phrases added to the language system that were not added already.

Hope this helps you understand the difference between the language system and the templates


As you can see, the templates are still hardcoded in vB3 Beta, which uses the ugly template being used at vB.com. The "real" language system (which is revolutionary) will not truly be working until vB3 RC. At least that is my understanding. So don't be too quick to hack the Beta - best wait for RC. :)

[trafix]

Scott MacVicar
vBulletin Developer


Absolutely no where did we say that there would be a release at midnight or 9am or any other specific time.

A release will be made today but we have no set time that I can tell you just now!

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=468491

[gopherhockey]

This has probably been discussed a thousand times before, but with all the crazy vb3 talk I'm having a hard time lately filtering out the good stuff.

Is there a thread or document on the methods used for converting over a hack?

I have a custom made hack that a guy built for me. Very small, but unique and necessary to my site. At the very least I want to start playing around to find what it will take on my part to get it to work with vb3 (even in beta)

I'm assuming there are a few major change necessary to each hack, then probably minor things to watch for (db changes, etc.)

Could someone point me in that general direction? Much appreciated.