Windows Server 2003

[filburt1]

Free trial: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/trial/default.mspx

I won't be using it because Windows p***es me off as it is.

[Dean C]

What's wrong with windows :P?

[shovel]

IIS sucks big ones dude. :rolleyes:

Full of bugs and errors, crashes are just one part of the package. I'm going to one of the opening conferances for it on May 15th near my home town. :) I'd like to see what they really improved (not to mention without risking my own server).

[filburt1]

I think you missed the ":p" in his post ;)

[shovel]

I saw, but still presented my opinion. :p No offence Dean. ;)

[Chris M]

Wow...

550MB;)

*Hmm...I'd say under an hour to download:p

Satan

[Dan]

I downloaded it..... installed it..... hated it..... formated...... installed win 98 :)

[assassingod]

Today at 04:37 PM Mist said this in Post #2 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=386481#post386481)
What's wrong with windows :P?

Everything:p

[DrkFusion]

See there are 2 groups of anti-ms

1. The ones who hate it for its price
2. The ones who do alot of heavy duty network related data change and design.

I can assuer you most of you are in #1, Filburt is in #2. I can garuntee you that Windows is a great OS. If your stupid then you will get hacked, if you don't do stupid things then its a perfect O/S. Windows does not just crash, if you running a ++++ computer, and you run 6 instances of ps7, 2 of Corel Draw, and 3 of DW and Flash, you don't blame it on Windows. Im a beta tester for Microsoft, have beta tested everything, all betas have bugs, and are there to be fixed.

On another note, I know 100% that not all of you have a valid copy of XP, Many of you have the FCKWG (or something) CD that was leaked earlier, and its a real buggy version, and you guys do not upgrade because you are afraid MS is going to track you down and kick you.

I know what I am talking about, because I work at a place with over 1000 computers, 500 running Windows XP and Windows 2000, 250 Macs, and another 250 raid servers running Linux and Windows, they all work together fine, and they put it through hell, if they can put the Windows O/S through the hell Ive seen them do, I am sure you guys can't even put 15% of what they do at home. Again this is the plus of buying your liscenses, you get that extra bit of support and valid upgrades.

Also another note, these days the people from group #1 are aged from 11-16 (majority) if you know in heart your in group #1 , please do not ever speak publically of your Anti-MS thoughts.

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Now on another note, I have been beta testing Windows 2003 Server at a machine at home, and 4 servers at work havn't really got a chance to put them through some real live testing on the network, but it is holding up fine, some minor bugs to fix, and some of the administration programs need a little recoding, run into couple of errors there while managing client computers on the network.

[Dean C]

None taken shovel ;)

- miSt

[colicab-d]

Ok in my personal Opinion windows is a great Os especially Xp, I have a lcensed version of it (thnk god), however the only bug i seem to get is sometimes a bit of slowdown when browsing with multiple windows, in some cases it,ll take a good 60+ seconds for a window to actually close, I dont pretend to knoww hat im talking about as its probs not windows, but anyway ive had xp for about a year now and its been fine with me, as for servers etc i,ll stick with linux not because i hate windows etc ( i was on a mates 2002 server for ages) , but more beacuse that a lot of servers running windows dont seem to over php, and from ahving experience with php and windows / apache 2 ive had a few probs with certain versions of php...

my 2 cents, sorry for my ignorance

[filburt1]

I hate Windows because it is poorly programmed and crashy (yes, Windows XP is still not stable) and has a very inconsistent and frustrating UI. OS X works, doesn't get in the way, and is stable. Hell, when installing hardware, you often don't even need a driver CD.

[assassingod]

Also, Window's stated that Windows XP would never crash

then in the small print they say it wont crash if you dont install anything

Im a linux and mac fan myself, XP just messes me about

[Xenon]

i use the good old win98, i would have stayed with dos i think if there wouldn't be that I-net thing ;)

all i can say i'm the one who achieved more linux crashes in my work than win crashes (relative to time of working with it) ^^

[assassingod]

Linux NEVER crashes for me.

And win98 is the devil:p

Its evil!

[Xenon]

no i am the devil :p

and it just crashes sometimes if you know what you're doing :p
learn to use windows :p

[assassingod]

No thanks, I still cant operate doors properly;)

[Dean C]

Stefan use 98

*Puts hand behind mouth and laughs hysterically* :)

- miSt

[DrkFusion]

Yesterday at 09:36 AM Mist said this in Post #18 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=386937#post386937)
Stefan use 98

*Puts hand behind mouth and laughs hysterically* :)

- miSt
Whats wrong with 98? I actually have a computer running 3.1 and 95 for my little cousin.

[Xenon]

mist can't use any OS, that's why he gets hysterically whenever someone can work with any os :D

[filburt1]

Yesterday at 08:19 AM assassingod said this in Post #15 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=386898#post386898)
Linux NEVER crashes for me.

And win98 is the devil:p

Its evil!

KDE crashed constantly for me. It also trashed my boot record at least twice and my GF dumped me over AIM...on Linux.

[assassingod]

KDE is good for me, pretty stable.

Aw:(

[NTLDR]

If I have to use Linux then I'd prefer to use Gnome :D However I think I will allways prefer Windows (NT based versions) to Linux or any other OS.

[VampireMan]

I used to in section #1 just hated windows . Or another way of putting it ..i hated PC's, after a few years i got my first pc & got introduced to the devil aka winblows 95 (floppy disc version).

Then i used a dual boot system.

Now this weekend i moved my trustworthy linux firewall into the hallway after crashing (1 year , 3 months , 2 days uptime).

And created a machine out of spare parts (Amd Duron 800, 512mb SDram. Various Nic's (ISA IBM EtherJet , Sis900 100TX , DEC 490x) , 60gb & 40gb ide dirves (ata100) and a few other spare parts). Got my Beta codes out and downloaded 2003.

It's now been installed for 24 hours, and after a few initial gripes everthing is running perfect. Havnt installed any firewall , apart from using the built in one (not the noob one). Looks nicely built and is compareable to iptables.

Also another note is my internal network is IPV6 based & was easier to setup then most linux systems ive used.

However as with all MS products .. Room for improvement.

[shovel]

Here's some looks into the new Windows Server 2003 from my friend rake's p.o.v. :)

www.ffdiscovery.com/win.net/ (http://www.ffdiscovery.com/win.net/)

[Razor]

04-26-03 at 12:47 PM filburt1 said this in Post #21 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=387468#post387468)
KDE crashed constantly for me. It also trashed my boot record at least twice and my GF dumped me over AIM...on Linux.
KDE rarely crashes for me... a lot less frequently than GNOME. Windows crashes much, much more than both :cry:

I'll take Redhat 9 over Win2K, WinXp, or OS X any day :classic:

[assassingod]

Today at 04:43 PM Razor said this in Post #26 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=388432#post388432)
KDE rarely crashes for me... a lot less frequently than GNOME. Windows crashes much, much more than both :cry:

I'll take Redhat 9 over Win2K, WinXp, or OS X any day :classic:


D * I * T * T * O ;)

:p

[NTLDR]

Windows crashes much, much more than both[/B]

Windows XP rarely crashes and if it does its never serious, any flavor of Linux tends to have a wobbly after no time at all.

[shovel]

:rolleyes:

If your an experienced Unix user than your box should have no problems at all. I still get the blue_screen_of_death every other time I install a program on my XP system. :p

Professional Windows User; how in the hell do you become that?! :D

[Razor]

Today at 05:26 PM NTLDR said this in Post #28 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=388601#post388601)
Windows XP rarely crashes and if it does its never serious, any flavor of Linux tends to have a wobbly after no time at all.


I ran XP for 3 months on a 1.5 ghz system with 256 megs of ram and it crashed often. I can run Redhat 9 on a much lower system with no problems at all.

[mr e]

i think the same could be said about windows, i've used my win xp for almost a year now and have uninstalled stuff and reinstalled stuff, but rarely have had any crashes at all, as long as you scan for viruses and defragment once in a while it's fine


Today at 04:07 PM shovel said this in Post #29 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?postid=388654#post388654)
:rolleyes:

If your an experienced Unix user than your box should have no problems at all. I still get the blue_screen_of_death every other time I install a program on my XP system. :p

Professional Windows User; how in the hell do you become that?! :D

[Brad]

Ive been using Windows XP for a long time now, upgraded from win 2k without a format (frist time ive ever done that), I figured it would be really unstable because I dident format, here we are a year later on the same pc, thats had many programs installed and un-installed and re-installed and XP has only crashed once.

Im not much of a Microsoft fan, but I have to admit, XP is the best OS ive ran so far (yet to use os-x tho, need to find the money for a mac frist).

[shovel]

If I just stick to my Mac I'll be good. ;) [nods] :D

[NTLDR]

If your an experienced Unix user than your box should have no problems at all.

I'd say I'm pretty expirenced, I use both UNIX and Linux and 99% of the time they cause nothing but problems, and its not because I don't know how to use it, I clearly do.

Professional Windows User; how in the hell do you become that?! :D

You get a MSCE.

[shovel]

You get a MSCE.

:D :D [laughs till stomach hurts]

I can't even believe a person would waste their time. :D [continues laughing]

[NTLDR]

:D :D [laughs till stomach hurts]

I can't even believe a person would waste their time. :D [continues laughing]

It would be far more valuable than a RHCE considering a majority of places over here at least use a Windows Platform on a majority of there PCs.

[shovel]

True. But I was just looking at how hard it is to become "Linux Certified". :D

[rake]

I'm with Keptic 100%.

I've had Windows 2003 for a while now. Before Microsoft released the free version on their site. Can you honestly say, after viewing my screenshots, that you DON'T like it? I found it to be very stable, just like my windows 2000. I've had it for over 2 years and it hasn't once crashed and i have never gotten the blue screen of death.

The whole sarcastic attitude against windows is mostly adopted by kiddies who can't form an opinion for themselves. They hear people say it, so why not?

[filburt1]

I work casually and professionally with Windows and have developed in many languages on pretty much every major platform. Think again before you call people like myself "kiddies."

[rake]

It wasn't directed at you, or at anyone here for that matter. It was just a general observation.

[colicab-d]

lol the irony in that is that ur 15 lol

soz dont wanna start a fight

[shovel]

:rolleyes:
Not to mention a much better coder than you or even I!! :p

I'm a very experienced Windows user (spent three years on 98 and one on XP) though I am now a Mac user. I find it easier being that it's on a Unix platform and basically just friendly. Though, the problem is the lack of games and programs for me to indulge myself in. :p