vBulletin vs. Invision Board

[Jeffster]

Invision Board is supposedly just as good as vB, and its free....why choose vB over IB?

[mr e]

the support you get at this forum
it's really easy to hack, i've seen both vb and ib and vb is easier to figure out and hack

im sure theres more but it's late and i can't think right now

[SaintDog]

Reasons to choose vBulletin:

1. Quality Product
2. Quality Support
3. Ease of site integration via templates
4. Ease of installation
5. Extensive modification abilities (you can basically modify the complete look of vB through templates and graphics).
6. Ease of hacking (cut and paste for the most part)
7. The overall amount of hacks availible (1000+)

I am sure there are many more, although those are some of the top reasons to choose vBulletin. When I first installed iBF, I found their template system to be very confusing (3-4 templates would be combined into 1; which makes things harder to spot).

- SaintDog

[Admin]

Originally posted by Jeffster
Invision Board is supposedly just as good as vB, and its free....why choose vB over IB?
"supposedly" is the keyword. If you take a closer look at the list of features vBulletin, you will find that it is much more powerful than Invision, in all aspects. Add that to the fact that vBulletin 3 is just around the corner (with the beta openning soon), you'll see vBulletin is a smart investment. From what I've heard, the support at IB is rather bad, while with vBulletin you have both vB.com and vB.org, as well as the official support system where you get a reply within 48 hours.

[Chase]

vBulletin is so much better than invision. The support is outstanding.

[proxyMX]

Invision board is simply inticing users in with its glorious packaged skin {Hint to VB3 makers: Make nice default template pweeease :P)

[proxyMX]

*pees himself* me sooo excited about VB3 now, Come on, September! Vbulletin Developers, give up sleep. NOW, Or me and all the millions of vb users will come and use you as hand puppets!

[Martin64]

A question like that in this board is bound to have biased answers, however, the answers so far seems to be appropriate. :)

Although I haven't used Invision, I can say for sure that vBulletin is the best software I have used, and the support around here is great.

[DrkFusion]

Ok, me an experienced user ;) of all sorts of boards, from ikonboards, to invisionboard, phpbb, wbb, ubb, but vb is different it is very easy to use, even for the average newbie. I can tell you that vbulletin, is one piece of software that would be a great feature for any site, and as Fire FLy had said, with vb3 right around the corner, and with high hopes for it, and from what I have seen from jelsoft's 2.x versions of vb, vb3 will also be one successful software. Vbulletin is user-friendly, and the support is great, not only do the admin, and mods help you, the fellow bb users, that are member like me and others, offer support too, and the great mod that have been released for vb is great, and I can assure you that you will not go wrong with investing in vb.

Drk

[ULTIMATESSJ]

IB.....Support.....What support?, sorry to be nasty to all those that like iBF, but their support sucks ass, vBulletin has to be the only place that would really help out if you had a problem, it's worth every penny, even at a high price, there are quite a few good hacks availiable at iBresource, which i use for my other foru, but if i had the money i would go for vB in a second, if you really care about your members, you will go for vB

[proxyMX]

Some mod moved a rant about VB3 post by me into here :|

Anyways. Ikonboard is bloated, it eats bandwith and space
Invision Board is a slow and unefficent alternatve
In my opinion, the only real free board you should go for is PHPBB2. I used this up until the switch to "A new class of bulletins"

[Kilika 9]

whats Invisions website

[DrkFusion]

its www.vbulletin.com :-D

Drk

[Kilika 9]

no invision not vbulliten i cant get vb for free

[proxyMX]

you can! Vblite is available free of charge from vbulletin.com

[Doofey]

I am gonna state first of all, that I am from the IBF community.

I don't know if anyone from IBF has come here, but I am not gonna be immature like some of them might have been.

I'd have to disagree with all of you.

For one reason, it took awile just for the reply page to load.
Has anyone actually been able to prove that vB is faster?
Someone has been able to prove that IBF is faster than vB.

Not only has he proven it, but you can tell. He didn't really like IBF until he saw the results.

The Invision Support.
The Invision Suport is great. I wouldn't recommend support from the main site, since you'll get a faster reply in the forum.
There are many people willing to help, not just admins, but memebers, too.

There all so nice, too. The features are wonderful to.

The template, yes, is confusing. But the developers are making it better.

IBF also has IBskins.com and IBresource.com for Skins and Mods.

How can you say that you shouldn't go with IBF cause there isn't many mods?

For one thing, its only four months old. There wasn't much time to produce many mods.

I'd say that for being four months old, IBF is doing Really well.

I am not saying this because I am from IBF. I am saying this because its what I believe.

Thanks for reading this,

Doofey

[edit]

I don't know if you guys have heard of Neowin.com or not, but it is a very popular Windows website.

They are switching from vB to IBF because server loads and stuff.

[Brad]

doofey: the test you speak of is on one machine. and i wont belive that ib is faster then vBulletin or vise versa until i see many test on many platforms. and also i saw no mention in the test if vBulletin had gzip or how ib or vbulletin was configed in the test. however i might have missed that. if you care to link me ill take anthor peek at the test.

[DestyNova]

Doofey

I have been use invisionboard for two months with 6000 members (transfer from ikonboard) and I m sorry to say that but it cause lagging loading on unix server and when I change to vbulletin, loading becomes more significant than before. Actually Anime-loo is right about benchmark, we need more machines to test it out and I know that test when I was ibf fan, I check it out and it didnt provide enough information even though I dont remme the link.

As for customer support, vb provide these supports far excellent than ibf does. I asked ibf some QQ and often left unanswer, offtopic, didnt provide enough answer or give me improper attitudes but compare to vb, I ask one QQ and answer in thirty mins or less.

As for "mods" or "hacks" ibresources have some support problems. And ibskins? it is dying (there is a tutorial on ibf's skin but no one bother to update it, 0.2 verison since three months) and ib skins is difficult to modify and get it right, vb have unique templates under separate category that which give me %100 control over the looks of board without having to look thur these ibf template for while to find what wrong.

Actually I have no regret that I convert myself from ibf to vbulletin, I love vbulletin and vb support are excellent. Yes ibf have the potential but need real lots of improve to get head to head with vbulletin or need more time or perhaps never will. VB3 will make everything different though.

As being former ikonboard and ibf user, I know what I m talking and I can only say that I make a right decision that I choice vbulletin over ibf after two months of ibf and members' feedbacks and complaints. I m not intend to offend you in any way, I m not that type who to do that to anyone but trust me, you will not regret if you give vbulletin a try.

[Doofey]

I respect your guys decision......

but, to me, its just not worth the money to get vBulletin.

I have tried IBF with with many members and many topics, with no slow down at all.

It might just be the type of server? not sure.

There are many respectable members at IBF, and yes I admit, many topics do go off topic. Bt so far, I have a little or no problems with IBF.

I think If I went with vB in the first place, I would have loved it.

But then would have ran to IBF. Maybe its just the tpe of person I am? Maybe the type that I am gets along with the type of people there?

If anyone is willing to provide the funds to vB, I will gladly try it out.

myIBF.com, I believe thats it, has about 400 boards and some other stuff that I forgot with With no sign of slowing down.

Also, I would like to thankyou guys for being so kind, it show to me that you guys will be nice.
I bet there are some people here that feel they have to lash out.
^
Do you guys have some of those people here?

Doofey

[Smoothie]

I would like to say vBulletin is tried, true and tested. Its not 4 month old software. If your running a site just for the heck of it, I guess you might use it, since its free. The support you get here and at vb.com are above anything else out there. Sure its not free, but that's ok with me. I was willing to pay for excellent software, like many others. And its not even a question of free, or paid for me. It all boils down to the level of support you get, and the quality of the software. I've used phpBB and ikonboard. Not bashing any of them. Just not what I was looking for in a forum package.

BTW, talking of speed, vb vs. phpBB, IB, UBB, I find vb to be quite fast. Even though I run a relatively small sized forum, vb flies for me.

[DestyNova]

Originally posted by Doofey
Also, I would like to thankyou guys for being so kind, it show to me that you guys will be nice.
I bet there are some people here that feel they have to lash out.
^
Do you guys have some of those people here?

Doofey

Sad or unfortunately yes we do have some but it doesnt matter actually every board have these people anyway, all we can do is ignore them and give them few chance to get it straight. I m going to deal with people thur net as I deal with people in IRL.

I d love to give you temporary "admin" to access AdminCP and some to see how it work but I m still work on it so I didnt let any members to swing by until I m done with hacks and etcetera.

As for "respect our decision" as I do for you, I respect you for your decision with ibf situation, I doubt you will regret with your decision anyway. :)

[Doofey]

Of course I won't regret my decision.
vB may be very good indeed, but when I load my IBF from my local server and WebServer. Its really fast, both running different OSs.

I wouldn't use the "Temp" admin access. I wouldn't want you to feel that I may screw it up. I feel that it would not be right, and I wouldn't want someone to go into my Admin Area and Possibly screw it up and I don't want you to feel the same way.

I do have a few friends that have vB.

There are some tings that vB has that I would love to see in IBF.

Also, for some reason, I don't really like vBs GUI. I know its editable, but I am so used to the way IBF is. I guess you can say I am a preson thats afraid of change.

Doofey

[Martin64]

Originally posted by Smoothie
BTW, talking of speed, vb vs. phpBB, IB, UBB, I find vb to be quite fast. Even though I run a relatively small sized forum, vb flies for me.

Yes, if you're on a fast server vBulletin is lightening quick. That's one of the reason I decided to go the vBulletin path myself. :D

[Guichi]

first i have to say that i own two vbulletins one of which i am co-webmaster at. I am quite frankly disgusted with vbulletin right now and i will surely be converting to another bulletin board when each term is up respectively.

- you guys speak about the great customer support when you buy a vbulletin. this is completely false! you can get the same support from a free boards official site just as much as you can get from vbulletin.com and .org.

-Limitations on what you can put on your board also hinders many sites although you guys dont seem to enforce the rule that much considering ive seen some crazy stuff like marajuana forums listed. the potential of having your lisense revoked because of this is silly, id be damned if any vbulletin official would steal my hard earned money just because they interpret my content as illegal or against your terms of use. none of the other bulletin boards have such a stupid policy.

-vbulletin.org. this place is a glorified "feature" of buying a vbulletin. there are plenty of hacks available for other boards and you can get them without any limitations whatsoever.

My biggest gripe is the registration of the domain the forums will be used in and vbulletins partnership with nukepirates.com. Users cant even put up a simple subdomain,redirector or move their board without nukepirates being on you like white is on rice. it also seems that explaining a simple redirector or forum move isnt good enough for both vbulletin and nukepirates. vbulletin is too lazy to even reply to a customers emails about the situation yet they reply very quick to inquiries about purchasing a vbulletin on their forums but wouldnt give me the the light of day on my problems and im a paying member. while on the other side i have nukepirates sending me warning letters almost daily and even ultametums via email and emails to my host wanting to shut down my forums.

To me this is absolutely unforgivable and it is so in the business world. when you purchase a product you expect the support that they claim to give you. i have yet to see that in vbulletin in the time that i have purchased one. leave this as a warning for those who wish to purchase a vbulletin.

[Smoothie]

While what you say may or may not be true, I've received a ton of support both here and at vb.com. No other forum software I've owned even comes close. Guys like FireFly, Xenon, Bira, etc. They and the others make this place and vBulletin what it is.

[okrogius]

first i have to say that i own two vbulletins one of which i am co-webmaster at. I am quite frankly disgusted with vbulletin right now and i will surely be converting to another bulletin board when each term is up respectively.

- you guys speak about the great customer support when you buy a vbulletin. this is completely false! you can get the same support from a free boards official site just as much as you can get from vbulletin.com and .org.

there are things called support forms for a reason. use it. the forums are extras.

-Limitations on what you can put on your board also hinders many sites although you guys dont seem to enforce the rule that much considering ive seen some crazy stuff like marajuana forums listed. the potential of having your lisense revoked because of this is silly, id be damned if any vbulletin official would steal my hard earned money just because they interpret my content as illegal or against your terms of use. none of the other bulletin boards have such a stupid policy.

practically any decent forum software authors will not let you use their work for an illega purpose. and why would you care? you condone piracy like some preteens do?

-vbulletin.org. this place is a glorified "feature" of buying a vbulletin. there are plenty of hacks available for other boards and you can get them without any limitations whatsoever.

there are no limitations of any kind. of course you need to own vbulleitn to get hacks, if you don't own it you wouldn't need the hacks for it.

My biggest gripe is the registration of the domain the forums will be used in and vbulletins partnership with nukepirates.com. Users cant even put up a simple subdomain,redirector or move their board without nukepirates being on you like white is on rice. it also seems that explaining a simple redirector or forum move isnt good enough for both vbulletin and nukepirates. vbulletin is too lazy to even reply to a customers emails about the situation yet they reply very quick to inquiries about purchasing a vbulletin on their forums but wouldnt give me the the light of day on my problems and im a paying member. while on the other side i have nukepirates sending me warning letters almost daily and even ultametums via email and emails to my host wanting to shut down my forums.

You can put on a simple redirect as much as you want. You just can't install it in two public places with one license.

To me this is absolutely unforgivable and it is so in the business world. when you purchase a product you expect the support that they claim to give you. i have yet to see that in vbulletin in the time that i have purchased one. leave this as a warning for those who wish to purchase a vbulletin.

[Steve Machol]

Originally posted by Guichi
first i have to say that i own two vbulletins one of which i am co-webmaster at. I am quite frankly disgusted with vbulletin right now and i will surely be converting to another bulletin board when each term is up respectively.
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-Limitations on what you can put on your board also hinders many sites although you guys dont seem to enforce the rule that much considering ive seen some crazy stuff like marajuana forums listedThe only 'illegal' activities that could cause you to lose your license are intellectual property violations. Therefore if that is something you're engaged in, then you are right - vBulletin is not the software for you.

Other than that I encourage you to voice your complaints to John directly at john@vbulletin.com. Might as well try to turn this into something constructive.

Also I'm sorry that you feel the support hasn't been very good. If you'd like to email me specific examples of poor support you've received I'll be happy to take a look.

[cyberphere]

Changing the look of invision is very much imposible

[Guichi]

Originally posted by Codename49
practically any decent forum software authors will not let you use their work for an illega purpose. and why would you care? you condone piracy like some preteens do?

You can put on a simple redirect as much as you want. You just can't install it in two public places with one license.


i dont believe in blatant piracy but i do believe you should do whatever you want with the product you just purchase less distributing it.

i know all about the two vbulletin rule. i had a simple redirect and after about 5 emails they still neglected to see that.

as for emailing john@vbulletin.com i must have emailed him at least 3 out of those 5 emails i sent and to this date never recieved any reply nor even an apology for what happened on those days. this is no way of treating a paid customer.

i dont know about IBF, i have never used it. im sure they worked hard on it and they surely deserve alot of respect considering they are giving it away for free. I do know that there is more than one board that is faster than vbulletin(OpenBB one of them) but i do know that its not worth your hard earned money for a product when you dont get the support that you paid for while their competitors are giving their product away for free.

[DestyNova]

Originally posted by Guichi


i dont believe in blatant piracy but i do believe you should do whatever you want with the product you just purchase less distributing it.

i know all about the two vbulletin rule. i had a simple redirect and after about 5 emails they still neglected to see that.

as for emailing john@vbulletin.com i must have emailed him at least 3 out of those 5 emails i sent and to this date never recieved any reply nor even an apology for what happened on those days. this is no way of treating a paid customer.

i dont know about IBF, i have never used it. im sure they worked hard on it and they surely deserve alot of respect considering they are giving it away for free. I do know that there is more than one board that is faster than vbulletin(OpenBB one of them) but i do know that its not worth your hard earned money for a product when you dont get the support that you paid for while their competitors are giving their product away for free.

Try to post at vb.com and keep bumping until John or someone to notice your post. As for me, I post several times with vb problems, they answer my QQ straight and simple also immediately. Really yes, speed is issue but security, featues, and etcetera are part of the issue too. I dont like IBF due to ugly template system, permission group limited, and many more. Basically if you dont like VB then fine with us, just do what you want with your decision about board softwares. As for me I admire VB and its work. Perhaps someday I ll have the problem with these support, who knows but for now it s excellent support for me and many buyers around here.

Basically VB rules are really simple for me to deal with. Anything illegal is always illegal in federal's eyes so better for us to do not use or abuse its privilage anyway. You or anyone can always make your own BB if need or your liking without need to deal with these "rules" Even though I m VB fan and I m planning to build my own forum from scratch so that I can deal with my own rules, supports and vera... It is not simple but it is fun :)

[Sweet Cheeks]

I've tried Invision and did NOT like it. VB is MUCH MUCH better :)

[Erwin]

Are Guichi and Codename49 the same person? Posts #24 and #26 are identical. Yet Guichi quotes Codename49 in post #29... Weird. :)

[DestyNova]

Erwin,

umm you re right. These posts are very identical, I never notice until you mention.

[Guichi]

i am myself and dont need to pretend or register as someone else just to get my point accross. :tired:

ask an admin to do an IP check on both of us.

LOL i bet you guys will start some conspiracy theories about me aswell.....

[Martin64]

Codename49 quoted and commented Guichi's post. I can't believe noone spotted this yet. :p

[TECK]

Originally posted by FireFly

"supposedly" is the keyword. If you take a closer look at the list of features vBulletin, you will find that it is much more powerful than Invision, in all aspects. Add that to the fact that vBulletin 3 is just around the corner (with the beta openning soon), you'll see vBulletin is a smart investment. From what I've heard, the support at IB is rather bad, while with vBulletin you have both vB.com and vB.org, as well as the official support system where you get a reply within 48 hours. just to emphase one thing: the invision board code programmer was part of IkonBoard team, until he had an argument and decided to leave the team (official story from my buddy who owns neowin).
then he came up with Invision just to prove to IkonBoard that he's better? not sure on that... :)
however, Invision is not that good in code stability. many sites that i visited have sessionhash problems, pages not displaying all the time (i have to refresh?) etc.
my personal opinion that vBulletin is a great investisment. there are some boards(news portals) out there retailed at $800??? wow...

[TECK]

Originally posted by Doofey
I don't know if you guys have heard of Neowin.com or not, but it is a very popular Windows website.

They are switching from vB to IBF because server loads and stuff. first of all, is neowin.net and i know neobond, the owner. they had server problems, not board problems, wich are fixed now. is true that they had in mind to switch to Invision, but not before VB3 will be released. in other words, they will never switch.

UPDATE
i just spoked to Neobond on msn. he confirmed me that they tried Invision and they didn't like it at all.

[Admin]

Originally posted by Nakkid
just to emphase one thing: the invision board code programmer was part of IkonBoard team, until he had an argument and decided to leave the team (official story from my buddy who owns neowin).
then he came up with Invision just to prove to IkonBoard that he's better? not sure on that... :)
... :confused:

[nuno]

hehe.... that's why :p

[TECK]

also, from other people saying, there are no group perm options?
apparently you cannot set for a guest not to download attachments... i feel so much better in VB's company... :)

[jsutme]

After doing some background checks and personal experimenting... I found that iBF is not all that it is bragged up to be.

This is in no way putting them down.

There present team created ikonboard and created the version 3.0 of that series and called it ikongold. It was indeed a let down and very buggy. They left that platform behind to go to new ventures (iBF) Problem is iBF being php was coded resembling there former ikonboard product. They made the same mistakes that they made before. It is ineficient for most people to modify and do what they want with it.

Now along comes a new team of 4 people at ikonboard, and they release 3.1.1 They cleaned up the bugs that the iBF team could not get rid of. Even a simple quote bug baffled the current iBF team, they could not get rid of it before they moved on. The current team took off the severe server load problems that the present iBf's team had coded. Cleaned up the code and released a vastly improved product.

Playing with the two boards ikonboard 3.1.1 and iBF's current release, on a few friends sites... iBF leaves a lot to be desired when a perl board can match a PHP board in speed and performance.

So I again went digging for facts. I came up with this solution:
Do you want a free board that is coded well? Follow the present team that just walked out on ikonboard. They are the ones that took what iBF's people attempted to do, and improved it vastly. They made a board that is bloated with more features than most, yet still can hold its own with the less featured iBF in speed and querry count.

Running the memberlist at ikonboard shows that it lost its dev members that created 3.1.1, and also a very lot of high people in the last week, with more to follow from a inside source I was talking to last night. That dev team is the one to follow for a free board.

As for paid boards and full support? There is no choice at all. It is right here. It is as simple as that.

[Erwin]

Originally posted by nuno
hehe.... that's why :p

That's a shocker... :eek:

[supersimon]

ok iam own one board and i have to say vbuletin tah best out ther and ive tried thema ll teh reason i did is cause i never wnated to buy vb but i conivinced i shuld and now iam here and i have to say teh hacks are amazing but teh support is another
prolly teh worst support ive ever seen in my life
i posted a few probelmos about 4 times and iam still waiting for answears ???? well though u can go to anay computer talk website that has alot of php codinh help yaxay.com or even some of tha smaller ones techiestalk.com and get amazing help. so i use a few websites to get what i want but the way i think about it is custom satisfaction ! hehehehe

[g-force2k2]

supersimon if you're looking for immediate help best to go to the support forum... other then that really the hack maker has to help you with support for his/her hacks... i certainly don't think that vb.org support is bad... just right now ppl are busy... and aren't on as much... i offer some support to members but i can only answer so much :p

regards

g-force2k2

[dxb]

I have few questions

what if IBF started charging money for example 30 $ how many ppl will go for it ???? and how many sites are going to go for vb3 :)


from my side I will be still going for vb for many reason and the main ones are the support,hacks and VB3 :)

best of luck for IB guys I'm sure they will need it :)

[g-force2k2]

i wouldn't pay $30 for ib... i wouldn't even pay the high dollars for ubb... imo vb is a great price... i like it and when the time comes i will renew my license for sure :) ib doesn't even begin to compare to vb... not to mention... i really love vb template system ;) there is no match ;)

g-force2k2

[dxb]

totally agree

[mIRCnet]

From my side I like VB more than invision thogh my friend is an IB hacker but I dont likt it,
I tested it once and when I looked to the templates there is so many templates and its complecated :(

I like vB for so many resons , the most thing that its simple and the guys here made it more simple
1.Thanks to FireFly for all tha hacks he made that changed the vB funcetunality
2. Thanks to c-prompt and SaintDog for teaching us how to change the look of the vB
more thanks to all the moderators and hackers in the vb.com and vb.org sites.

In the other hand, why dont you read my thread " Did you know ? I think you didnt yet (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42235) " and tell my if you can do the same with IB ... I am sure that you will never be able to do it.

[jsutme]

Originally posted by dxb
I have few questions

what if IBF started charging money for example 30 $ how many ppl will go for it ????


Your joking right?

iBF charging for that product?

The user base that they have are children. All they do is go to other boards and spam. There way of advertising there board is so inmature and disgusting. If the members went from here to iBF and even mentioned VBB, the topic would be deleted. There inmature way of advertising is pure spam and flames. No serious potential users would use there product after seeing how there children promote that product. If your a business you will end up with there children on your forum in front of your custumers, and userbase, telling you that you have to use there product. I have seen other forums where this has happened.

If your going to pay for something. Then you pay for what will benefit you. I see no benefits what so ever from iBF, for them to even be able to charge $1.00 There product is not worth it. There coders are just rippers/hackers. Where is there originality?

[TECK]

Originally posted by g-force2k2
i wouldn't pay $30 for ib... i wouldn't even pay the high dollars for ubb... imo vb is a great price... i like it and when the time comes i will renew my license for sure :) ib doesn't even begin to compare to vb... not to mention... i really love vb template system ;) there is no match ;)

g-force2k2 hmm the board is free and still dont want it, imagine if i have to pay.. heh. no wayyy!!

[DrkFusion]

Ive tried it ;) Still on my server....damn lock file pisses me off.

Anyway, I don't like it, I used phpbb before vb, and I have to say phpbb is 10x better then any other free board mainly because to an extent they have decent people there, OpenBB is just total crap, it may look all beautiful and dandy, but trust me you don't want to be stuck with a board with so many errors.

Also IbF hacks, get ideas from vb and ubb, so I don't know how a user at IbF can say, "Looky here, I thought this up, coded it from scratch, and it works so cool"

All I can say is hush children! hehe j/k
I have to say this Doofey character is the most decent user from IbF I have ever seen.

[msimplay]

Dunno what u lot are talkin about
to be honest with ya
cuz i tried em all
on standard features mode
hmm
Vbulletin
whats so good about it anyway
all i seen is money being payed
Phpbb is good
and so is ikonboard
But i think invision board is tops
for quality
altho it has little customer support at the moment
things that are hacks on other boards are built in as standard on that board
i would know
cuz i been through the admin control panels of each of them
I myself have used Yabb
the user community for is much better than all the boards i have seen
i do not know why it isn;t even getting a mention
the hacks are fanastic
the support is prompt what more do u want
its not good to knock off other peoples work
cuz i have seen the features that each board has
i'll be honest with ya each one has its merits but v bulletin seems to fall short cuz its not free
and nuthing to bring above what the other boards offer

[Guichi]

case in point, any free board is better than paying near 100 dollars for this. There are tons of free boards that can put out the performance that vbb can do and you dont have to update it every month or so because of spelling errors LOL!

i just cant wait for next week when i have to update to 2.28. :tired: or wait for the latest bug that "friendly" hackers find. About the customer support...there is no customer support. Forum members help eachother out here just as much as anywhere else. The ones who should really be giving support are out having a drink or busy counting how much money they have made. The vbulletin members area is just a glorified place to put in a long password. :p

Guys take it from someone who has made that purchase/mistake. Go get yourself a free board!

[msimplay]

i joined the forum just to see what all the commotion was about
i thort maybe 50 60 pounds for a licence
but man they take the mick
u ave to pay for licence
and then on top their members area renewels
They are comparing themselves to webboard dunno how old the post is
but has anyone really took the time to take a look at invision the latest or latest ikon board or phpbb
LOl i dunno why people even look at web board any of the free board including v bulletin beat the hell of web board it sooooo outdated :p

[Goldknight]

Guichi and others..

Hmm.. how interesting.. lately phpBB and IBF users come here and spam at our board or whine at us about "Free vs VB" I notice one thing about us VB members, we lately didnt bother, spam, whines, and insult others AT IBF and phpBB forums..

Now who are really mature and immature? Think it over cafefully...

As for "Free vs VB" Basically we dont care if you decide to choice free board such phpbb, ibf or even ezboard over VB and if you re happy with them then fine with us. We made our own choices and we re happy with it (even though we never regret our own decision.) VB give me many things that I want or need that which "Free" boards couldnt fill it up no matter how many verison they have to improve on.

Now go away and spam at somewhere else instead of here, we dont need that. We respect you guys by not spam, whines, bother, or to/at you guys at "Free" boards. So grow up... As Nakkid stated, I m aware of free boards but I dont want to use it, why should I? I was IBF/phpBB user before and honest with you, it is joke to have these on my site. Even if I cannot afford VB myself, I ll wait and save some $$ until I buy VB cuz it has stuffs that which fill up my needs.

Have a nice day :)

[msimplay]

Dont call me a spammer
just cuz u wasted ur money ;)
anyway didn;t i say its not good to knock off peoples work
did u even read what i sed
look whose talkin grow up ur too arrogant just cuz u paid some money, as for spam u dont know the meaning of spam am simply contributing to the arhuement cuz ur meant to persuade me to buy not the other way round
and users of this board are all like u then i don't wanna become part of this community the cheek of u @ Goldknight
i mean at the end of the day am parting with hard earning cash
u tell me what makes this forum worth buying
cuz at the end of the day if yur reply isn;t constructive why should i invest ?

[Steve Machol]

I think this thread has outlived it's usefulness (if it ever had one.) People who want 'free' have other options and they are welcome to them. This board is for hacks and the support of hacks for vB. Please feel free to continue your diatribes at the forums of your respective BB systems. :)