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zajako
06-08-2002, 11:22 AM
(This is not really a request, it is more of an announcement)

For all the requests for a rpg battle hack, I am going to make one like none other, it will inclued many many many features.

It will utilize my previously released hacks, and many others. Also i may make it work with Lesane's store hack, I would like to talk with him abou tit first, if lesane reads this first aim me at zajako2, and I'd be glad to work with you on getting some item updates and getting your store bigger as well as making a hack to use all the new expaned features.

Ok, any ways it will use these stats

Level
EXP
HP
MA
PP
AP
ATK Base
ATK Main
DEF Base
DEF main
MA Offence
MA Defence
MA level
Elements

And will have many MA attacks PP attacks and AP attacks, plus the normal attacks and a few other oddities. Items can be used also...

This hack will also have a ton of updates, changing a lot of the codings, so when the time comes only beta test on boards you know you can risk testin on and don't forget the obvious back up junk.

The battle page will look similar to a rpg game, with a seperate window for battle. Graphics will be included so there will be a random bg and it will display either an avatar, of a custom avatar made for the rpg system, Like a full body avatar or something, that can be custom uploaded. I plan to add many other features too, like an inn and things like that... When you challenge somebody to a battle, they get a pm, if they accept then the battle commences. Also Another thing id liek to add, will be an avatar displaying for people currently viewing hte battle as well as a battle log made after the fight. THe stat bars, will also move live. This is a all out full rpg hack, and its in devo, If you have questions or would like to help in some way shape or form, please reply, or if you just want to encourage me (which can help get it moving a bit faster, It seems to help me some how...:P).

Ja

GamerX
06-08-2002, 02:05 PM
what's MA and PP?

Chris M
06-08-2002, 02:09 PM
Sounds good...

But What is MA, PP and PA?

Satan

zajako
06-08-2002, 06:12 PM
heh

MA is Mystic Aura, my game Twisted Fate( a game in devo ) uses Mystic aura, a replacement and explination for magic. Think of it as microscopic organisims that are filled with energy and hen formed in groups they can do miricles. There are 7 primary element types of the mystic aura, if you have seen my element hack, those are the logos for the tfo elements, (kinda tiny but they are close enough).

PP is power Points.
WHen you attack, you can choose to do a weak attack, this saves some of your power so you can use it to make a power attack. another thing from twisted fate.

while im at it...
Ap is Anger percentage. It goes up as you get hit, and you can use percentages of it to do different attacks.

zajako
06-09-2002, 12:32 PM
ok, here is my first progress report....

i have made the stats and made them databased, and set up a post bit to call these. Its nothing that has never been done, however, it is porgress
http://www.tfogame.com/dump/progress1.jpg

zajako
06-09-2002, 02:13 PM
Database updates done.

over 100 new fields 2 new tables and 1 table edited

JGM007
06-09-2002, 09:14 PM
It is looking good zajako!!
I know many of will be very, very ever so very greatful! ^_^

DestyNova
06-11-2002, 06:48 PM
Wow, I cant wait to get my hands on your hack!

Grealm
06-11-2002, 10:43 PM
this is prolly my first RPG hack to install :)

DarkDraco07
06-13-2002, 04:32 AM
yum yum, cant wait.

afterlab
06-13-2002, 08:35 AM
And you're releasing this? Well whatever, it's your version of it. Just don't expect me to use it.

Err.

Brad
06-13-2002, 09:59 AM
i dont see why anyone in their right mind would release something this big for free. but hey its your hack.

zajako
06-19-2002, 04:37 PM
I would relese something this big, because, it does not hurt me to share something after ts made, and not ot mention, I do this for all the memebers out there. I hold the memebers on my board above me, so I hold members of other boards high to.

Velocd
06-19-2002, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Anime-loo
i dont see why anyone in their right mind would release something this big for free

typical. I knew that would be brought up in this post by somebody...

Nice ideas Zajako but there is nothing special about creating 100 fields and 2 new tables, its the coding which will take the most effort to achieve successfully.

Vivi Ornitier
06-19-2002, 11:45 PM
lol, as long as you can release a separate version of just the battle hack, i'll be more than ahppy. All the HP/MP and stuff I can make by myself but the battle hack i will be HELLA excited.

Velocd
06-20-2002, 01:54 AM
...? Weren't you working on this project anyway? I recalled Afterlab over at FFRepublic was also, but all his battle hack consists of is an icon showing two swords clashing together.

When I was taking AP Comp Science this year in my highschool class, I made this Final Fantasy program that ran pretty well. At first I started big and had a materia system and what not in the program, but then I figured it was getting to complicated and I couldn't figure out how to make it all come together anyway, so I reduced the battlesystem. I made a very simple but cool system.

Even the most simplest battle hack would be cool to have, that would simply contain these important variables:

1. Enter battle by clicking on icon or text in a members postbit.
2. The damage you inflict will depend on your level.
3. When you attack, another persons HP will lower (duh).
4. Some form of battle cap, not allowing a level 20 person to fight a level 3 person (this would probably be most hardest to code...but then again, not really)
5. When a user runs/escapes/is defeated from battle any other way (ie. closes their browser window) they get gold deducted and the winner recieves gold and exp.
6. Both members have to be online, ofcourse, and have to be free.

That seems about it, and the hacks this already consists of are:

Yet another stats level hack by knoman, although only using HP for battle. The Level, which determines the amount of damage a user inflicts.
shinra online point system, this is needed for the points/gold/gp or whatever you want to call it recieved from battle.

These components can really be used to make the most simplest battle hack, but working. And after you create this and get used to it you can always add others. I laugh though to see in post #1 that he has like 20 fields (actually to quote him, he said 100 fields). Talk about starting big, but to implement all those in a hack never been done before is gonna be no easy task.

DestyNova
06-21-2002, 01:53 AM
*sigh*

Velocd, thanks for post that link

Velocd
06-21-2002, 02:22 AM
Lets not start another one of these (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37144) threads again, discussion on the hack and development itself would be nice for a change ;)

MrLister
06-21-2002, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by afterlab
And you're releasing this? Well whatever, it's your version of it. Just don't expect me to use it.

Err.
I know how you feel, I also run a similar site, just somewhat different.

MrLister
06-21-2002, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by zajako
I would relese something this big, because, it does not hurt me to share something after ts made
You want to bet? Go make your site extremly unique. Fill it with features beyond your imagination. Then a few weeks later watch everybody else have it also....

I guess you could use templates as an example. Get yourself a really, extremlly good looking template and then release it. If you don't want to release it, why not get somebody else to release it and get the credit for it?

Doesn't hurt right?

Travis641
06-30-2002, 06:45 AM
Why exactly are you guys complaining that he's releasing this for free? I mean people complain when it's not free, and when it IS free. It's is not hurting you if he releases it for free, is it? If you don't like it, don't install it. No one is holding a gun to your head. It IS his choice, if he wants to release it for free, or not. Why complain about either decision?

But like the old saying goes: "Do not look a gift horse in the mouth".

afterlab
06-30-2002, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by Velocd
...? Weren't you working on this project anyway? I recalled Afterlab over at FFRepublic was also, but all his battle hack consists of is an icon showing two swords clashing together.

Actually no. My battle system (which was up, now taken down for upgrades) consisted of the following:

~ Character/job classes with individual stats like attack, defense, evade, agility, and more.
~ Leveling system by EXP. EXP is earned by damage.
~ Leveling boosts character's status. There are 5 classes and from there, they each can go onto 2 more characters which are higher and more powerful then the original class character.
~ Calculations of damage from items (attack, agility), character (level, attack, agility), enemy's armor (defense, evade, agility), enemy's character (defense, evade, agility, level) and random effects (critical hits, misses).
~ Magic system with over 500 skills. All of which must be learned by using TP (Tactical Points) which is earned randomly within battle.
~ RP (Republic Points), our form of money, given out to the winner of each battle.
~ Fleeing (the person fleeing would lose the battle) feature enabled for players to leave battle.
~ Instant Messenging. You could talk to your opponent within the battle.
~ Battle Ticker. Recent battles would be listed on the forumhome and Battle CP. From there, a link to the battle is provided, in which any user can view the battle in live action.

And I actually don't care whatever happens to this hack. I just don't understand why anyone can take other's ideas and create a hack and get all credit. Also, that wasn't towards anyone, just an overall perception on many things revolving around here.

heretic
06-30-2002, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by afterlab

I just don't understand why anyone can take other's ideas and create a hack and get all credit. Also, that wasn't towards anyone, just an overall perception on many things revolving around here.


UBB came out with the flat thread system, then vB improved on it... is that bad?

Mercedes made a car, then Ford mass produced the Model T, allowing others to be able to have one.....is that bad?

afterlab
06-30-2002, 05:15 PM
That anology is somewhat off from what i'm trying to point out. Here's a better one:

Mercedes makes a car exclusively for their executive members. Then Lexus makes a car that works and looks the same as the high-class Mercedes. Sure, i'd want the newer Lexus, because i'm a consumer. As a producer, like Mercedes, having something that many consumers didn't know about be made by another company then released under their name isn't so nice.

DestyNova
07-01-2002, 05:40 AM
Afterlab, yeah I agree with your anology.

But can I debate about that a bit? (Believe me, I m speaking as devil's adovcate on that and I AM not offending you, anyone or anything like that, so PLEASE dont take it offense... I like your forum and excellent job at code up these such nice hacks!)

Some of these features like battle system, conception of HP, MP, STR, some more are original ideas & works by Final Fantasy, Squaresoft and yet some coders, hackers, or leechers have dare to say "it is my codes, (edit or copy) graphic or ideas, dont steal it or add me as author/credit of that codes or I ll do something!" something like that. I m speaking for anyone who use these ideas and codes that coders made, did they EVER contact Squaresoft to ask their permission to use their ideas/graphics/system for any kind of websites, forums, programs, activities, nor games? I guarantee that NO one ever try since they know what Squaresoft will do to them if they feel like to do that but offically Squaresoft aint care or they ever will since they made billions and billions of $$$ from that, boy we re fortunately that they didnt even try to lift their small pinkie finger to sue us for using their graphic works or ideas.

There are different kind of rpg making programs such as RPG Maker 2000, they stole lots, lots of Squaresoft's graphic works, ideas, battle system, and more also many websites or forums stole much more than rpg making community does. So who is the original maker and maker's ideas for these excellent features? Squaresoft do and always will, so no one have right to say that they re original author as long as Squaresoft still have that copyrighted images, ideas, system, and more. They still make more games for us to play or steal their ideas, graphics, nor system as usual

So it aint matter who code it up or not, as long as they cannot claim that it is their idea or their copyright since Squaresoft is the who own these copyrights before even Web Creator, Tim Berner-Lee invent the World Wide Web.

But again, I agree with afterlab's anology, I just merely speaking as devil's adovcate and we have to be careful what we talk about "ideas" cuz at least 60 percent of these ideas that we re using at our forums, sites, games, and more are copyright by these companies. I m not surprise if someday these companies have enough of us and send wolves to get over with us. (that is a major reason I graduated as 3D artist so that images are my copyright to protect my ass before that happen.)

BTW, afterlab your site/forum look so amazed and excellent. Fabulous job with map feature!

zajako, I hope that ya re still keep your plan to finish this hack cuz I d like to see how your forum look like whenever ya finish with it. =)

Neo
07-01-2002, 06:20 PM
My battle works off of a new age longer lasting breath system. So basically you click a button and then damage is given and exp is given. You see?

Chris M
07-02-2002, 06:52 PM
Sweet:D

Satan

Neo
07-02-2002, 07:02 PM
I will post the code now.


if ($_POST[attack]<0) {
echo "You Dead";
} else {
echo "You got hit for $_POST[attack]";
}


its so easy :D

Chris M
07-02-2002, 07:11 PM
:)

Sounds good:)

Satan

ULTIMATESSJ
07-03-2002, 06:37 PM
lol this is horrible, i was looking on iBResources, and they are making an RPG Battle System for their forums, and are half way thru it, we can't let them get ahead of us can we!!!, someone release a RPG Battle System

[D]Vincent
07-03-2002, 08:05 PM
People wouldn't take someone's hack and post it under their name if the person who originally created it would have posted it, if you make a hack it's better to post it as soon as possible and then show friends/people you know about it that way those people you show can't take it if you already have it up.

If you create something and don't want to share it don't get pissed when someone steals it and posts it because it was your own fault that you didn't post it in the first place. But then again I'm just rambling don't listen to me :P

Anyways back to zajako guy or whatever's hack XD

Just wondering but why are the names links, and is there going to be a totally different screen for battling or do you battle in posts? Also will it be text based attacks or do you just pick an attack from a drop down menu or something. I would also like to know how the system of the fights will work, like how much do you take off, I know it's based on your stats above your posts but like how do you know how much you will take off from a regular hit by looking at your stats? Also will the elements, attacks, ma attacks, and whatnot be editable or would we have to do alot of crap to edit them. Last about how long will this take to make it? Because if it's not made soon I'm just going to finish my manual battle system I'm using for my forums..

afterlab
07-03-2002, 11:10 PM
If you create something and don't want to share it don't get pissed when someone steals it and posts it because it was your own fault that you didn't post it in the first place.

Ahhhell no! People like you piss me off. All you want is people to release hacks, and you use them to better your community. That's great, I could care less. But look, my point towards your post is this -- What if I took something off of your forums you made and released it here? Would you say "Oh well it was my fault for not releasing it"? I'd better your thinking if I were you.

Neo
07-04-2002, 05:34 AM
I totally agree with afterlab on this one.

But if you all wait a month you will have something for your forums :mad:

g-force2k2
07-04-2002, 05:39 AM
Well yes afterlab i totally agree with you on one aspect... i would be upset as well... but for another reason... always advertising your site and talking about your hacks and all... do you seriously think that ppl won't come and want what you have? If you want to keep to yourself then you should keep your profile small not talk this and that and so on... not saying you're wrong in any aspect but that ppl will come... As long as they code it themselves then hands down to them...

btw neo if you need any help i can give you any assistence if needed ;)

g-force2k2

afterlab
07-04-2002, 01:50 PM
I would love it for neo to release it if anyone. Well anyways, it's not the coding that matters to me, it's more about the idea.

Webmasta XT
07-04-2002, 02:14 PM
man I would love it if you release this.. I am sure gonna install it.. :P

DestyNova
07-05-2002, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by ULTIMATESSJ
lol this is horrible, i was looking on iBResources, and they are making an RPG Battle System for their forums, and are half way thru it, we can't let them get ahead of us can we!!!, someone release a RPG Battle System


I aint surprise... One of hacker from IBresources gloat at me about that =\ His quote, "VB has nothing crap on RPG battle, we do so convert vb right away!" oh well :rolleyes:

If you create something and don't want to share it don't get pissed when someone steals it and posts it because it was your own fault that you didn't post it in the first place. But then again I'm just rambling don't listen to me :P

It is not ethnical to talk like that. If these hackers don't want to share, then it's their loss (for fame =P)and their choice.I m professional 3D artist, I often provide anyone whatever they request from me, but sometimes I refuse due to some reason so I'm sure that Neo or Afterlab have their own reasons. Also it is reasonable--it is time consuming to make rpg battles or whatever to code it up. I'd love to provide you guys with these RPG hacks, but unfortunately I just learned and have been reading thru Kevin's book and Wrox books lately so I cannot until that time.

And also, features themselves ain't always attracting new members anyway. Look at sitepointforums.com, their forum doesn't have a lot of features, but yet they attract many, many more members than any full loaded of features forum do.

Neo, it will be cool to see what your hack can do =)

zajako
07-05-2002, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Vivi Ornitier
lol, as long as you can release a separate version of just the battle hack, i'll be more than ahppy. All the HP/MP and stuff I can make by myself but the battle hack i will be HELLA excited.

I am releaceing it as a whole, only because, i have to modify all the hp/mp hacks, however when its done, you can feel free to edit it to how you want your bars and things.


Originally posted by MrLister

You want to bet? Go make your site extremly unique. Fill it with features beyond your imagination. Then a few weeks later watch everybody else have it also....

I guess you could use templates as an example. Get yourself a really, extremlly good looking template and then release it. If you don't want to release it, why not get somebody else to release it and get the credit for it?

Doesn't hurt right?

well, i have been working on remodeling my entire vb, let alone making my battle hack original. My new site in devlopment, is more of a site with a backbone of vbulletin with the rest totlay redone. It looks way better than any vb, in my opinion so, ,i don't have to worry bout that.


Originally posted by afterlab


Actually no. My battle system (which was up, now taken down for upgrades) consisted of the following:

~ Character/job classes with individual stats like attack, defense, evade, agility, and more.
~ Leveling system by EXP. EXP is earned by damage.
~ Leveling boosts character's status. There are 5 classes and from there, they each can go onto 2 more characters which are higher and more powerful then the original class character.
~ Calculations of damage from items (attack, agility), character (level, attack, agility), enemy's armor (defense, evade, agility), enemy's character (defense, evade, agility, level) and random effects (critical hits, misses).
~ Magic system with over 500 skills. All of which must be learned by using TP (Tactical Points) which is earned randomly within battle.
~ RP (Republic Points), our form of money, given out to the winner of each battle.
~ Fleeing (the person fleeing would lose the battle) feature enabled for players to leave battle.
~ Instant Messenging. You could talk to your opponent within the battle.
~ Battle Ticker. Recent battles would be listed on the forumhome and Battle CP. From there, a link to the battle is provided, in which any user can view the battle in live action.

And I actually don't care whatever happens to this hack. I just don't understand why anyone can take other's ideas and create a hack and get all credit. Also, that wasn't towards anyone, just an overall perception on many things revolving around here.

i do not see a single original idea on that list. as for credit I have been working on thsi project for a lot longer than i have even mentioned it. I have papers dated back in feburary, so this idea is actualy not to original considering many other sites, also have it. Also, I am doing all the coding on it by myself, thus im not taking anything from you. The fact of the matter is though, I have been too busy to work on this hack due to running my own company that you finished your version first. Does this mean that i should give you credit?? I think not.. The ideas for mine are mine. I just am not anal about it, to the point that i release my hacks i make and share them, and when i do i also go so far as supporting them, rather than just seeing all the errors and not taking responsibility.


Originally posted by heretic



UBB came out with the flat thread system, then vB improved on it... is that bad?

Mercedes made a car, then Ford mass produced the Model T, allowing others to be able to have one.....is that bad?

this is more like taking something from a car like a cup holder and 2 people think of the idea of putting the cup holder in a plane. Then one person, shares this idea, and the other gets angry because the other person is nice.
I just want to point out to every hacker out there. I share my hacks, because these people do pay for them. They buy their vb. They spend at least 85 dollars. I may not get a single cent of that, however, they did pay that, and why not make it if not just a bit more worth while. besides my site does not get enough traffic for me to be stingy with my ideas.


Originally posted by ULTIMATESSJ
lol this is horrible, i was looking on iBResources, and they are making an RPG Battle System for their forums, and are half way thru it, we can't let them get ahead of us can we!!!, someone release a RPG Battle System

Im sorry I have been very busy with everything.. I will get cracking on it :}


Originally posted by [D]Vincent
People wouldn't take someone's hack and post it under their name if the person who originally created it would have posted it, if you make a hack it's better to post it as soon as possible and then show friends/people you know about it that way those people you show can't take it if you already have it up.

If you create something and don't want to share it don't get pissed when someone steals it and posts it because it was your own fault that you didn't post it in the first place. But then again I'm just rambling don't listen to me :P


Anyways back to zajako guy or whatever's hack XD

Just wondering but why are the names links, and is there going to be a totally different screen for battling or do you battle in posts? Also will it be text based attacks or do you just pick an attack from a drop down menu or something. I would also like to know how the system of the fights will work, like how much do you take off, I know it's based on your stats above your posts but like how do you know how much you will take off from a regular hit by looking at your stats? Also will the elements, attacks, ma attacks, and whatnot be editable or would we have to do alot of crap to edit them. Last about how long will this take to make it? Because if it's not made soon I'm just going to finish my manual battle system I'm using for my forums..

It will be a new screen
it will be buttons and drop downs
All stats and forumlas will be editable in the admin panel in the final version
I hope to have it done within the next month or so, i have been rushed with a ton of ++++ going on, and my life has just been made a lot more difficult.


And as a final note, I am sorry for not responding sooner, i have been very busy, and i am going to try to get craking on this hack..

Thanks for all those supporting me, with the originality complaints, and i just want to clear up, this hack has really been in devo off and on since feburary, however i have been developing the background for it which as i had stated ealir, which is a site that hides 100% of the vb, and works only using the vb engine. So as for originality, he has no room to accuse me of taking his ideas. Not to mention, most of his ideas are from Final fantasy series games anyway. where as mine are actualy based off my game in development called Twisted Fate. Thus the lack of Mp, it is replaced with MA, which is a mystical force with storline in tf. In fact, ill even give you a run down of it since it will be a part of this hack.

MA or mystic aura, is a microscopic substance that is originated from an unknown sorce. This substance reproduces when vibrated, because it gains energy of the motion and thus begins to use the engergy to reproduce. The energy is then used in one of two ways by the person causeing it to vibrate. They can A: Cause it to reproduce and give them more MA in there bar called a Acharge or aura charge. Or, they can use the energy to reproce them and give them element, causeing them to mutate into another substance called a MA Attack. Il give an example of an MA attack..
EX..
The wielder causes the MA to take the element of fire, in which case he throws it at the enemy resulting it to turn to a fireball.

so as you can see, Magic is replace by a much better explained system.. The battle hack which i will refer to as the game, cause thats what it is, an online game, will not go anyfurther than that for storylineing due to the fact anything further is a spolier for my game in devo(for a console system).

Now I plan to get cracking on this system for you guys, and for me. I wil give you some screenshopts and stuff when i get the chance and when i get some more stuff done.

DestyNova
07-05-2002, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by zajako


Thanks for all those supporting me, with the originality complaints, and i just want to clear up, this hack has really been in devo off and on since feburary, however i have been developing the background for it which as i had stated ealir, which is a site that hides 100% of the vb, and works only using the vb engine. So as for originality, he has no room to accuse me of taking his ideas. Not to mention, most of his ideas are from Final fantasy series games anyway. where as mine are actualy based off my game in development called Twisted Fate. Thus the lack of Mp, it is replaced with MA, which is a mystical force with storline in tf. In fact, ill even give you a run down of it since it will be a part of this hack.

MA or mystic aura, is a microscopic substance that is originated from an unknown sorce. This substance reproduces when vibrated, because it gains energy of the motion and thus begins to use the engergy to reproduce. The energy is then used in one of two ways by the person causeing it to vibrate. They can A: Cause it to reproduce and give them more MA in there bar called a Acharge or aura charge. Or, they can use the energy to reproce them and give them element, causeing them to mutate into another substance called a MA Attack. Il give an example of an MA attack..
EX..
The wielder causes the MA to take the element of fire, in which case he throws it at the enemy resulting it to turn to a fireball.

so as you can see, Magic is replace by a much better explained system.. The battle hack which i will refer to as the game, cause thats what it is, an online game, will not go anyfurther than that for storylineing due to the fact anything further is a spolier for my game in devo(for a console system).

Now I plan to get cracking on this system for you guys, and for me. I wil give you some screenshopts and stuff when i get the chance and when i get some more stuff done.

As I stated in my post at first page, No one (have no absolute right) can claim that it is their idea since it is Final Fantasy's original idea anyway. So I aint care if it is someone's idea since it is not their at first place but I do care that whoever made it (hack, program, ideas, etc..) that can give anyone access to these and can praise about it. Also someone like you code it up and provide then it is YOUR works that I do praise and care about cuz you sweat it out and make it work even if you didnt provide anyone but yourself. It is not easy work but you do it anyway, it mean alots more than just having 'ideas' crap or 'refuse' to share their works with others.

Interesting.. I been study and write the eassy about RPG during I was student at college which professor ask us to research on 'ideas' subject like who starts it, where area it improve or "evolution" etc.. I decide to research RPG cuz it is interesting, it been always fad at whenever era is. I know for sure that Tolken who is starting whole of fantasy ideas, until computer/console invent and then Final Fantasy starts with the ideas of HP, MP, battle system, etc.. (I been research on this for at least 6 months) Yes there are some old rpg game that have some features (hp, mp and some) but battle system? It is Final Fantasy's copyright and sudden every rpg game copy that and "evolution" it to make it look new but it is still based on FF's copyright battle system (Dragon Warrior for example). Final Fantasy do not even whine about it, they re not care period.

zajako, it is really good to have you to code it up and not let anyone to stop you or complain that it is their 'idea' (actually it is still based on Final Fantasy's idea, sorry fact is fact) Keep it up no matter what they think of you or your works, being pioneer and provide to anyone that they can access is somewhat difficult so good job and I know that many of us want that hack so bad. Many thanks =)

Sorry about my english, it is not my first language =P

DestyNova
07-05-2002, 06:05 PM
Forget to add, also your ideas of RPG hack is very interesting, I m curious what you can do with that and I cant wait to see your screenshots.

2 :thumb up:

Lovaboye
07-06-2002, 03:18 AM
Zajako, don't listen to any of the stupid fools that are complaining and are going against it. Your doing the right thing, anyways, they will be the first ppl to d/l the hack, if you finish the hack early thats a plus, but keep up the good work!!!!!

Neo
07-06-2002, 06:41 AM
This time I promise I will release a rpg hack. And I am sure you will all love it. I have over come my asshole ness about the hole rpg hack and realize that one day someone will release one and why not release that from a hacker you can trust (Neo for office :D)

Once I get neer the end of the coding and such I will give a explanation of it and its usage :)

afterlab
07-06-2002, 07:35 AM
Nevar! Not before I a release it. ;) I'm seriously thinking about releasing mine though. If I decide to it'll be ready in a few weeks.

[D]Vincent
07-06-2002, 11:31 AM
lol I'm just being an ass about it because I have to use a stupid manual battle system when there is a hack for it x_x. Afterlab, you could also just make a better version of the hack for your forum and then release a basic version of it for the people, that way people like me don't try and piss on you XD

SZ|TalonKarrde
07-06-2002, 12:13 PM
Whoever posted Final Fantasy was the first thign that had this idea. *WRONG*
Several games already had been created like it, and of course there was always pen and paper rpgs

DestyNova
07-06-2002, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by SZ|TalonKarrde
Whoever posted Final Fantasy was the first thign that had this idea. *WRONG*
Several games already had been created like it, and of course there was always pen and paper rpgs

As I said in my post that I ALREADY aware that there are some kind of rpg that already use these but Battle System in VISUAL is copyrighted by Final Fantasy, pls do read and research thur enough before you can comment on that. And also there are more that paper and pen DIDNT even invent or ulitize that Final Fantasy already invent and use.

Pls do research hard...

Neo
07-06-2002, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by afterlab
Nevar! Not before I a release it. ;) I'm seriously thinking about releasing mine though. If I decide to it'll be ready in a few weeks.
I would give up friend of mine. My system has something very very special to it that yours wont :p Unless you would like to colaberate on the project together :)

afterlab
07-06-2002, 08:43 PM
I would love to collaborate.

DestyNova
07-06-2002, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by neo
This time I promise I will release a rpg hack. And I am sure you will all love it. I have over come my asshole ness about the hole rpg hack and realize that one day someone will release one and why not release that from a hacker you can trust (Neo for office :D)

Once I get neer the end of the coding and such I will give a explanation of it and its usage :)

Frankly it surprised me that you re sort of "asshole ness" Actually ya aint, at least to me anyway :p

Neo
07-06-2002, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by afterlab
I would love to collaborate.

Cool Man :D That would be great once you get on AIM or MSN lets talk.

DestyNova: Thanks the means alot :)

Aerith_Freak
07-06-2002, 11:45 PM
Ok my opinion here is probably going to make absolutely no sense what-so-ever but anyway.

Afterlab and the others who already have their own battle systems and won't release them. The way you just come over and convey yourselves here as self-centered brats has really wound me up.

Your all like, oh no someone's releasing a battle hack it's gonna mean the end of my community. And the whole, people shouldn't rely on others to make hacks for them attitude.

Well I'm sorry if I don't follow your, "I'm God and you should do what I say regeme." but if you care to remember there are people out there who DON'T understand PHP, who DON'T know vB inside it.

These people crave to have something like a battle system, it's something they dream of.. but they don't know how to do it. You guys being so protective over your frickin' things just makes matters worse, it's like your treating them as animals.

So sorry to tear you out of your own little bubbles but the people like zajako should be praised. They actually make an effort to make the common folk happy.

And for all you over-protective tech junkies... shame on you.

Zajako I think what your doing is brilliant and you have certainly earned my respect for it.

And Afterlab sorry for using you as a direct example but your the only admin I can think of who had a successful battle system (please your name is so easy to remember ;) ).

Hopefully this all made sense and didn't come accross as some ofensive slang ball........ knowing me I probably misread the thread..

Also zajako I have something that you may want to add to your hack. If your interested e-mail me or contact me or something. This hack is gonna be good. *thumbs up*

afterlab
07-07-2002, 12:08 AM
There are actually tons of people working on this, but they don't post a thread in here to advertise their hack.

E
07-07-2002, 12:48 AM
word^ sounds like me... except mines probably not taking so much attraction away from the actual board...........

g-force2k2
07-07-2002, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by neo

I would give up friend of mine. My system has something very very special to it that yours wont :p Unless you would like to colaberate on the project together :)

i dunno neo i have plenty of ideas of my own :p just trying to do a one armed job ain't easy ;) but the stuff im thinking... i dunno just might blow the competition away ;) then again dun know what you're thinking either :)

g-force2k2

MrLister
07-07-2002, 03:31 PM
Well I'd say there are at least 5 out there that are complete. Afterlab, I have one (it's differnet though, support multiple user battles, items use turns and a few more things, based on diablo and final fantasy), there are two more that i've seen on other boards and i'm presuming there's at least 1 more out there. I think the reason why people don't want to release it is because they put in countless days, weeks, some months making this and just posting it to the public so that most other sites are identical to their own is probably not what they want. I know one may argue it's the community that counts but if that were true we'd all be on linux, not windows.

Each battle system that I've seen is different in it's own way so even if afterlab does release it, it would not affect me for example nor the other sites I've seen because they're all unique. It would only make further requests such as lesane's store hack. Great hack, i don't personally use it but almost every 10th thread has, can you make it work with the store hack.

All in all, a battle system is great however I still don't think that it is fair for users to just go around browse at different board. say "i want this and i want this and i want this" post it here and then after 4 months of asking, requesting some hacker decides to go for it for recognition.

It was a unique idea, that took a LOT of time to think up off and code. There are reasons why most aren't releasing it.

heretic
07-07-2002, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by afterlab
There are actually tons of people working on this, but they don't post a thread in here to advertise their hack.


*nods*


To be honest, I think should a RPG hack be released, give it a standard fight, exp, and stuff.

leave the more advanced things to the unique sites, like FFrepublic.

if the users that want it free want to have more, then they will have to do the grunt work themselves.

this in turn leaves the more advanced sites with something unique, and dare I say it, better.

But I see this turning more from people saying they were going to do it and not, to others demanding that it be made... I think it's a bad turn...

DestyNova
07-07-2002, 04:16 PM
Mrlister and heretic

well, I dont know about others but I never request anything from AfterLab or Neo, I aint care if they do release or not, last thing I want to do is complain or bother them about release it..

But I do care about zajako and his hack cuz he decide to get up from chair and do something for us, people who needs that complex RPG for our forum. Is it bad idea? I would say no cuz zajako is here to provide to meet our needs for our forum nothing more than that. Afterlab and Neo themselves made that decision then it is ok with me. If Afterlab or Neo change their mind and decide to not release it, again it s fine with me, I respect whatever they think better but since this thread is about zajako's hack after all so I aint mind.

AND zajako himself decide to make the hack so why we have to stop him? And I d like to have that hack from zajako, he never ask anything like recognition...

MrLister
07-07-2002, 05:33 PM
Heretec: I agree completly! This is much better then going out and duplicating the features of those that spent months comping up with them just so they can be copied and released to thousands of users.

I'm not bugging anybody about releasing it it's just that some people spent months thinking up of this and put a lot of time into it. then a user just wanders in, says i want that and gets it. basically the users here, want to have the best features and all they have to do is post it and then spend 5 minutes installing it and poof they have the same feature as the next websit that spent months making it.

I'm not saying stop zajako or stop anybody. I"m just saying that it's not fair to make a hack based on a different website who spent months making it. If you want a rpg hack you should do a request and explain in detail w/ unique ideas. not just go to ffrepublic.com for example and say "i want that" and then somebody goes off and duplicates it w/o the permission of the original programmer.

Good ideas take a long time to think off. Imagine how long it took to think of a RPG Battle system.... Why should everybody have access to identical features w/o the permission of the original programmer. I don't see any other windows programs that have identical features to microsoft windows and just look a bit different. i'm not saying rpg battle system is copyright but at least respect the time the initial programmer took to think up of it.

Also you mentioned meeting needs. What about the needs of the programmer who made it in the first place. The one that spent months making it? If somebody duplicated his best feature and releases it to a few thousand websites... Does that fullfil his needs. Also this is vBulletin, which is a forum. The only needs should be upgrades to it. Why are people expecting and asking for entire battle systems (complete game) and so forth. Why do you make it your need to get a entire game, website and forum out of something that's just a forum?

DestyNova
07-07-2002, 05:57 PM
MrLister

True, I do agree with you but if zajako decide to not release it cuz of "original" then I can do nothing about it.

But MrLister, I m sure that zajako have several features at his OWN board that he WILL not provide or add to his hack for us to keep his board "original" as possible as Afterlab plans to do. So that will be always different and original no matter what we get these hacks from them then why concern about it?

Also this vb.org is for share the hacks or whatever provide anyone's request or needs, if they dont want to share any kind of "original" hack then why did they advertise about it at here? As what Firefly said, he have some more hacks that he made but didnt advertise about it at here, that which I respect him even more.

MrLister
07-07-2002, 06:03 PM
DestyNova: Exactly, but my main concern is not on just this one hack. If this is released and it features everything from other battle systems do you really think that initial programmer will continue to think of great ideas and program them.

Do you think that any programmer will spend weeks and months thinking of new ideas or will most of them sit back and wait for somebody to release it so they can copy it. Just as Firefly I don't publish my website here because if I was there would be another bunch of requests that would get fulfilled and then i would have a few thousand sites looking a bit different with identical features.

Afterlab for example. In my oppinion he made a mistake publishing ffrepublic.com . He gained maybe one or two honest members but 99% of the visitors that come from here are just interested in seeing if they can get somebody to reproduce identical features so their site could also be "cool" and "full of features." Basically he announced his site on vB forums and all he got was a lot of posts in the request forum to duplicate some features. I'm not speaking for him but i'm just saying what i think may be.

DestyNova
07-07-2002, 06:07 PM
Ok, ok, ok I agree with ya entirely but I aint mind to have a hack from zajako anyway that if he still tweak it :D

ULTIMATESSJ
07-07-2002, 07:34 PM
this would be a good idea, if you are going to overwrite the Levels hack by knoman, with the new code, post uninstall instructions for the original level hack, in the hack, then everyones happy

Hollenthon
07-07-2002, 10:44 PM
When that thing will be available ?

Sound awesone to me !!!!

Aerith_Freak
07-07-2002, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by MrLister
DestyNova: Exactly, but my main concern is not on just this one hack. If this is released and it features everything from other battle systems do you really think that initial programmer will continue to think of great ideas and program them.

Do you think that any programmer will spend weeks and months thinking of new ideas or will most of them sit back and wait for somebody to release it so they can copy it. Just as Firefly I don't publish my website here because if I was there would be another bunch of requests that would get fulfilled and then i would have a few thousand sites looking a bit different with identical features.

Afterlab for example. In my oppinion he made a mistake publishing ffrepublic.com . He gained maybe one or two honest members but 99% of the visitors that come from here are just interested in seeing if they can get somebody to reproduce identical features so their site could also be "cool" and "full of features." Basically he announced his site on vB forums and all he got was a lot of posts in the request forum to duplicate some features. I'm not speaking for him but i'm just saying what i think may be.

You ever heard the saying "great idea's are made to share?"

I'm only 15, but I know a child who's only 11 and is running his own vB. He dreams day in and day out of having a battle system... but no-one ever releases one. Can you imagine the smile on his face when he finds out about this hack?

Great idea's are made to share. The lightbulb, TV etc. The people who invented them didn't keep them to themselves, they sold the idea and made lives happier and in some cases easier.

Like I said before, it may come as a shock to you, but not everyone is a PHP junkie.

So just quit it with the self-centered "I've got a stick up my ass and I'm going to moan because someone's builiding on an original idea" attitude.

The whole new array of new battle systems being made and being released is a good thing. The building on the idea's can then be combined with other idea's to produce even better systems.

So just for 5 seconds stop thinking about yourself, think about the vB public.. what they want.......

I know this probably sounds really offensive but the jerkness of all you PHP junkies lately has been ticking me off.

Hollenthon
07-07-2002, 11:42 PM
If that kind of hack will not be overprice, people will buy them, but 300$...

I mean vBulletin is the absolute best damn board in the web, the amount of work to achieve that kind of result must be awesome but the price is not exaggerated, it's reasonable and people buy it.

But 300$ for a hack, vBulletin is even not that expensive.

Just my 2? :)

And for the people who to it 4 free, they all have my reconnaissance !

MrLister
07-07-2002, 11:45 PM
Hollenthon: Heh if vB was even $400 I'd still buy all the licenses i have. :) It's the best "board" out there, not a portal or a site. :)


Idea sare made to share but how is it sharing if the original coder never allowed it?

He's the originator. It's not called sharing if you go to the site and duplicate it. Guess how much $ those great ideas you mentioned went to the originator. Do you think he would have shared it and spent all that time so he can have somebody else give out TVs for free?

In regards to the child, I understand what you are saying, and i agree with you but at least get the concensus of the original programmer before duplicating his hack. Imagine the frown on his face when one thousand other websites have the same features he worked so extremly hard for. When I was that I age I would have been happy just owning a vB or running any kind of website, so he should as is have a huge smile on his face. Or he could ask the programmer politely for a copy.

Hollenthon
07-07-2002, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by MrLister
Hollenthon: Heh if vB was even $400 I'd still buy all the licenses i have. :) It's the best "board" out there, not a portal or a site. :)


Idea sare made to share but how is it sharing if the original coder never allowed it?

He's the originator. It's not called sharing if you go to the site and duplicate it. Guess how much $ those great ideas you mentioned went to the originator. Do you think he would have shared it and spent all that time so he can have somebody else give out TVs for free?

In regards to the child, I understand what you are saying, and i agree with you but at least get the concensus of the original programmer before duplicating his hack. Imagine the frown on his face when one thousand other websites have the same features he worked so extremly hard for. When I was that I age I would have been happy just owning a vB or running any kind of website, so he should as is have a huge smile on his face. Or he could ask the programmer politely for a copy.

If the thing have a reasonable price I have no problem to reward the inventor buy buying the thing. But 300$US, when you live in Canada it represent near 500$ :)

I work in the pharmaceutical business and it's the same problem. Can we allow small company to copy medication who take several years and million to develop ? But in the other hand can we tolerate the outrageous overprice of the new medication ?

Great idea must be share at a reasonable price !

It's all about balance !

Aerith_Freak
07-08-2002, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by MrLister
Hollenthon: Heh if vB was even $400 I'd still buy all the licenses i have. :) It's the best "board" out there, not a portal or a site. :)


Idea sare made to share but how is it sharing if the original coder never allowed it?

He's the originator. It's not called sharing if you go to the site and duplicate it. Guess how much $ those great ideas you mentioned went to the originator. Do you think he would have shared it and spent all that time so he can have somebody else give out TVs for free?

In regards to the child, I understand what you are saying, and i agree with you but at least get the concensus of the original programmer before duplicating his hack. Imagine the frown on his face when one thousand other websites have the same features he worked so extremly hard for. When I was that I age I would have been happy just owning a vB or running any kind of website, so he should as is have a huge smile on his face. Or he could ask the programmer politely for a copy.

Can I just point out that I never said I was making a battle hack ;) I'm still learning PHP, that stuff is beyond me. Yea I agree that consent should be obtained from the original creator(s) of the battle hacks... but the way you guys are conveying yourselves is that releasing a battle hack is gonna mean the end of the world or something.

MrLister
07-08-2002, 01:06 AM
Hehe you're right. I just wanted to at least get others to appriciate the work the initial creator made. :)

Hollenthon
07-08-2002, 03:00 AM
Just to add little more of my 2? :)

I will take the same analogy that I use before with the pharmaceutical business.

Usually, when a new discover is made, the company have the intellectual property for a certain amount of time, after that amount of time anybody can use the gizmo.

I mean, take a site like Final Fantasy Republic. The have a very strong (I mean very strong) fan base and expertise with their RPG an even if they release their hack for free tomorrow, nobody will be able to achieve what they achieve because they always will be consider like the pioneers.

As long I'm concern, since I run a French base site, I'm not making any competition to anyone :)

Now, I'm anxiously waiting some news of zajako and his great work !

E
07-08-2002, 04:37 AM
i think i could release a small version of my hack that i think is pretty good... :)...... but i dunno if i will

zajako
07-08-2002, 05:26 AM
AND zajako himself decide to make the hack so why we have to stop him? And I d like to have that hack from zajako, he never ask anything like recognition...

he is correct, I am not doing this for recognition. In fact, i'd rather not be recognisezed. Because i am a hacker that releases his aim name, i get somewhere between 15-20 people I don't know aiming me askign for new hacks, making requests, or people "having trouble downloading hacks". I turn away the people havign trouble with hacks, and refer them to the help pages, or if they want solely one of my hacks, and their excuse holds up(which is really rare) i give them my hacks only. I have refused all requests to download hacks for people, and i get them quite frequently. I respect the fact that you guys paid money for your vbulletin, and that is why i release hacks, becuase in a way you paid for them. Even though i never see a dime of that, I do it out of respect to all the hacks i have gotten, and all the work everyone else puts in..


I'm not saying stop zajako or stop anybody. I"m just saying that it's not fair to make a hack based on a different website who spent months making it. If you want a rpg hack you should do a request and explain in detail w/ unique ideas. not just go to ffrepublic.com for example and say "i want that" and then somebody goes off and duplicates it w/o the permission of the original programmer.

Well, who is this original programmer? do you know? its not afterlab. Its not anybuddy at vb, the original programer is the creater of ff1. Not to mention, my batle hack is completely different from other mainly becuase its based after my game in development for a console. Not to mention, i have been working on this hack since february, but m\the version for my site, is actualy involvine an entire site change, which i have been working on. This entire site change i call tfo4 or vbulletin vZ. yes i did call it my own version of vbulletin, its because it is a complete remodel of the vbuletin and the battle hack is a part of this. I call the rpg hack itself Operation TFOG (tfogame). If you goto my site, you can see that I have indeed been working on this for quite some time, not to mention, the fact i hardly have traffic at my site, so its not like I have to worry bout being selfish with my hacks to keep people coming.



EDIT
all these talks of money,,, thay have me boggled to ask the question why? We all knw the vb, is worth what we pai i ts t about that, its about making hack for it. I donot charge for my hacks, however, if anyone is interested, i do take donations. I don't expect any, nor do i really care about them, i just thought id say it :P

DestyNova
07-08-2002, 06:38 AM
zajako

as usual I :thumb up: your comment :D

Originally posted by zajako

EDIT
all these talks of money,,, thay have me boggled to ask the question why? We all knw the vb, is worth what we pai i ts t about that, its about making hack for it. I donot charge for my hacks, however, if anyone is interested, i do take donations. I don't expect any, nor do i really care about them, i just thought id say it :P

I ll aim you about that =P

ExAvIoUr
07-08-2002, 10:29 AM
This is to Vivi, Afterlab and guys like that:
if u really have the hack, and u can prove that it works i'm willing to buy it for my forums, just because i'm trying to satisfy my members.... plz contact me or my friend on aim: RespectiveUnl

Vivi Ornitier
07-08-2002, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by [D]Vincent
People wouldn't take someone's hack and post it under their name if the person who originally created it would have posted it, if you make a hack it's better to post it as soon as possible and then show friends/people you know about it that way those people you show can't take it if you already have it up.

If you create something and don't want to share it don't get pissed when someone steals it and posts it because it was your own fault that you didn't post it in the first place. But then again I'm just rambling don't listen to me :P


Anyways back to zajako guy or whatever's hack XD

Just wondering but why are the names links, and is there going to be a totally different screen for battling or do you battle in posts? Also will it be text based attacks or do you just pick an attack from a drop down menu or something. I would also like to know how the system of the fights will work, like how much do you take off, I know it's based on your stats above your posts but like how do you know how much you will take off from a regular hit by looking at your stats? Also will the elements, attacks, ma attacks, and whatnot be editable or would we have to do alot of crap to edit them. Last about how long will this take to make it? Because if it's not made soon I'm just going to finish my manual battle system I'm using for my forums..


what now? should i release every hack i create for my forums in fear that someone is is gonna run around copying it without even asking and releasing it herE?

[D]Vincent
07-08-2002, 10:58 AM
Vincent]Okay well let me ask a few more questions for zajako since no one else it lmao
How does strength go by, do you only get EXP for battles? Do you get it for posting? Maybe both? Is there classes? If so is there level ups for each class? Is there certain standards for each class? Do we set our own classes? Which shop hack will you be using? Will you be making your own? Will the elements be in the shop? Will you just select an element when you register/in user cp? Can certain elements learn certain magics? Will it just be to where certain magics are stronger for certain elements? Will there be a thing for someone to make a custom weapon? Will you supply us with plenty of item pictures to use(if you need some I have a zip of alot of them)? Do you have to buy magics? Do you learn magics? Is there a stats system(like Attack, Defense, Speed, M.Attack, M.Defense, Evade and stuff like that)?

After you answer those I'll come up with some more :p

[D]Vincent
07-08-2002, 11:01 AM
Eh? Vivi do whatever the hell you want, if you really want to you can

Hollenthon
07-08-2002, 10:49 PM
Yep, people can say what they want but this hack that zajako is cooking look awesone. Can wait ! Give us some uptade on your project I think that there's many persone who are interested !

I have nothing but respect for people like zajako who still did it for pleasure.

Troy J.
07-09-2002, 04:46 AM
ya this looks like it will be really cool and will be the first rpg hack i install......... keep up the good work man :)

zajako
07-11-2002, 12:44 AM
Okay well let me ask a few more questions for zajako since no one else it lmao
How does strength go by, do you only get EXP for battles? Do you get it for posting? Maybe both? Is there classes? If so is there level ups for each class? Is there certain standards for each class? Do we set our own classes? Which shop hack will you be using? Will you be making your own? Will the elements be in the shop? Will you just select an element when you register/in user cp? Can certain elements learn certain magics? Will it just be to where certain magics are stronger for certain elements? Will there be a thing for someone to make a custom weapon? Will you supply us with plenty of item pictures to use(if you need some I have a zip of alot of them)? Do you have to buy magics? Do you learn magics? Is there a stats system(like Attack, Defense, Speed, M.Attack, M.Defense, Evade and stuff like that)?

After you answer those I'll come up with some more


You get your exp at the end of battles, and strength is measured by base atk + wep atk.
You do not get strenght by posting however I might make it an optional thing to allow it..
I do plan to use a class system, and i prolly will let te classes level up. YOu als o set your clas when you first make your character. There are perks to each class as well, like different attacks. I plan to make a enirely new shop hack, because none to date will work for this kinda thing.
Elements must be picked at the beining of char registration just like the class, and can't be bought in the shop.
YOu have to be certien elements to get certein ma attacks, as well as some classes can have certien elements and some may not have an element. Also certien classes are stroner with certien elements as well.
Custom weaposn will be able to be made. And item image libray is a must, if you would like to share that zip of them i would appriciate it.
Some MA attacks you must learn from a mentor, ,or others you may learn from combat. There is a level up system for MA.
here is the stat base:

Atk base
This is the root of your attack also know as your attack without any weapons or modifiers. It is found out by this simple formula:

Level x 2 = AtkBase

Def base
This is the root of your defence. Also known as your defence without any armour or modifiers. It is found out by this simple formula:

Level / 2 = DefBase (round down)

MA Offence
This is the amount of Offence you can do with your Mystic Aura. It is found out by this simple formula:

Level / 3 = MAO (round down)

MA Defence
This is the amount of Defence you can block with your Mystic Aura. It is found out by this simple formula:

Level / 4 = MAD (round down)

MA Level
This is the level of MA obtained. This tells what level of MA you can use. It is found out by this simple formula:

Speed
The rate which you may attack.

[D]Vincent
07-11-2002, 12:50 AM
Vincent]Thanks. I'll have a few more questions made in a bit, the zip to the images I have is at the bottom of this thread :)

Neo
07-11-2002, 04:35 AM
WTF Oo

ULTIMATESSJ
07-11-2002, 02:39 PM
what would be good to do is for people to be able to switch any of the things like EXP off the boards thru the admin cp, so they can customise it for whatever rpg feel they would like for the boards

Gary King
07-11-2002, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by [D]Vincent
Thanks. I'll have a few more questions made in a bit, the zip to the images I have is at the bottom of this thread :)

Some nice pics for this hack in there :D
BTW, where did you get them from? :classic:

[D]Vincent
07-11-2002, 08:04 PM
O_o I don't know, can't remember I've had them forever.

Gary King
07-11-2002, 08:10 PM
Ah ok, Vincent. hehe I'm gonna be keeping those pics on my HD as well, if you don't mind ;)

zajako
07-12-2002, 03:38 PM
whatever they label the stats in their post bit , is there choise, however variables will be named after the stats I have named them after all varible names don't matter.

Hollenthon
07-14-2002, 04:39 PM
If I have one suggestion for the user: KISS

Keep It Simple and Stupid

Some user are barely able to change their avatar so keep the thing simple and intuitive as possible.

Neo
07-14-2002, 05:34 PM
LOL You are soooooo right :D

ULTIMATESSJ
07-19-2002, 10:01 PM
so, how along is this, has it been started???

Neo
07-20-2002, 02:10 AM
Yes it has been started. Once I finish up a job of mine I will start it during my site update... Once I get 50% done with it I will have a thread about it, all it features and such.

[D]Vincent
07-29-2002, 10:52 AM
Hey zajako, any progress made?

DemiNeo0101
07-29-2002, 01:08 PM
zajako: REALLY Great job. If you need any kind of help AIM me at DeMiNe0. I can get you graphics pretty fast if you need em.

proxyMX
07-29-2002, 01:52 PM
Sadly i cannot use this hack because it is too final fantasy and rpg game orientated, but people forget there are other rps out there :)

proxyMX
07-29-2002, 01:58 PM
by the way, when i was in my ff rpg days, i would have died for this hack, but it all seems a bit complex

Point Blank
07-29-2002, 04:38 PM
Will this hack be able to be modified to the user's taste? I would like to change it to a Castlevania-type RPG, it is the best game ever after all ;)

Gary King
07-29-2002, 08:39 PM
Heh maybe let him finish it first before asking for modifications to it? :) I think he's doing a great job as it is.. :D

I don't play Final Fantasy, but I would wait for this hack to be finished, and then make my own personal modifications to it :)

Neo
07-30-2002, 12:05 AM
*cough* Jesus.

Gary King
07-30-2002, 12:13 AM
What?

proxyMX
07-30-2002, 02:37 AM
Neo, ive said it once before, if your not gonna be nice, and have a group of people that hate you wherever you go, why bother comming on the forums, your plain mean

proxyMX
08-01-2002, 05:28 PM
Zajako, Can you give us all an estimate release date? Im sure all of us are anticipating it, even though it probobly will take a few years to install :P

[D]Vincent
08-05-2002, 05:40 PM
I guess that's a no :ermm:

proxyMX
08-05-2002, 05:48 PM
oh well,

[D]Vincent
08-05-2002, 05:52 PM
He probably gave up on it or else is away or something. There goes another bag full of hopes down the drain -_-

Aerith_Freak
08-05-2002, 10:45 PM
Maybe he is still working on it. And I wouldn't exactly call it a "bag full of hopes", as soon as it gets released you can guarentee that after about a week several rip-offs will start cropping up and the old +++++fest will start again... but respect to zajako for doing what he's doing :)

DestyNova
08-05-2002, 11:57 PM
Aerith

I m curious about your class hack, I cant wait to see how it is =)

Neo
08-06-2002, 01:52 AM
Aerith = Very Good

Aerith_Freak
08-06-2002, 02:05 AM
It's good, still trying to finish a few things and fix some errors that have been bugging me for about a week now. I'll post some screen caps later this week.

Neo
08-06-2002, 05:05 AM
YAY

ExAvIoUr
08-11-2002, 03:11 AM
damn you guys really know how yo change from topic to topic.. :)


aww well... Zajako, I M 100% behind you, and to support you. :)

Webmasta XT
08-11-2002, 03:47 AM
when is this gonna be released?

[D]Vincent
08-11-2002, 11:59 AM
I think zajako's away, I haven't seen him in a while.

MrLister
08-11-2002, 03:35 PM
Last time I checked he said he just barely started it.

Neo
08-11-2002, 10:13 PM
He is helping me out / waiting for me to release mine :)

[D]Vincent
08-12-2002, 02:38 AM
Vincent]Well I wonder how many people are going to be editing your RPG Hack :rolleyes: Probably about 100 people adding on to it, think of how annoying that will be lol.

Hollenthon
08-20-2002, 01:09 AM
Can wait to have this hack !

Keep us updated and continue your good work !

Erwin
08-20-2002, 01:30 AM
Try to release this before vB3 comes out. ;)

DrkFusion
08-20-2002, 02:12 AM
I don't think a full blown rpg hack should be made and released for free.

Maybe Neo's little
Button Click, and if you get hit you die system is the best for you people that want to just sit on your lazy asses and download.

ULTIMATESSJ
08-20-2002, 06:09 PM
well my phpRPG is going rather well, i got the actual program working, only problem is that i still need to integrate the vBulletin User Table into it, if i could get that done, it would be complete

Link14716
08-22-2002, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by DrkFusion
I don't think a full blown rpg hack should be made and released for free.

Maybe Neo's little
Button Click, and if you get hit you die system is the best for you people that want to just sit on your lazy asses and download.

You don't?

I say OPEN SOURCE ALL THE WAY! (well, yea, give us some free stuff, I mean, what about us 14 year old peoplke who can't get a job to pay for this ++++ and was only able to get vB with their damned birthday money, huh? What about us? huh? HUH? HUH!?!?!?!?! I think I got my poin across ;))

Ninth Dimension
08-22-2002, 12:45 PM
<offtopic>

Nothing againt 14 year old kids here, and I can respect the fact that you may have some fantastic web design and deelopment skills. but don't you think you should be playing in the park, or studying at school, or hanging with friends or something?

I'm not having a go at any 14 year old kids, or saying that they should not being a computer, or indeed anything like that. all I'm saying is that you should enjoy life while you are young, you can't spend time worrying about your website, or your forum software, or complaining about which hacks need to be free.

Go you, enjoy yourself have some fun, get a tan, and LIVE!!!

</off topic>

Gary King
08-22-2002, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by danielhollands
<offtopic>

Nothing againt 14 year old kids here, and I can respect the fact that you may have some fantastic web design and deelopment skills. but don't you think you should be playing in the park, or studying at school, or hanging with friends or something?

I'm not having a go at any 14 year old kids, or saying that they should not being a computer, or indeed anything like that. all I'm saying is that you should enjoy life while you are young, you can't spend time worrying about your website, or your forum software, or complaining about which hacks need to be free.

Go you, enjoy yourself have some fun, get a tan, and LIVE!!!

</off topic>

Wise words, my young padawan.. :banana:

NTLDR
08-22-2002, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by danielhollands
but don't you think you should be playing in the park, or studying at school, or hanging with friends or something?

True, but at least vB etc is keeping them away from crime and stuff like that. And some of them can make big money with there web design skills, so who can blame them?

Ninth Dimension
08-22-2002, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Blak n Wite
Wise words, my young padawan.. :banana: Thanx, all I can say in addition to my above text is "but don't forget the sunscreen" :D

Ninth Dimension
08-22-2002, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by NTLDR
True, but at least vB etc is keeping them away from crime and stuff like that. And some of them can make big money with there web design skills, so who can blame them? This is true, but i'm betting that it's opening up a new avenue of crime, namely MP3 downloads (but i'm guilty of that too, so lets not carry on LOL)

MP3, what MP3????? :bunny:

Erwin
08-23-2002, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by ULTIMATESSJ
well my phpRPG is going rather well, i got the actual program working, only problem is that i still need to integrate the vBulletin User Table into it, if i could get that done, it would be complete

I look forward to having a look - I've seen phpRPG in action and it looks good. :)

zajako
08-28-2002, 03:10 AM
ok update time...

the character creation process is finished and the people testing can make there characters. Also i have started on making the stores system. The stores will be:

Items
Weapons/Blacksmith
Armour/Armourer
Mystic Aura(magic)/ MA Knights Training
Power Atacks/Dojo
Anger Attacks/Anger Management

those are the 6 shops that im creating. You use them to buy skills and equipment to aid you in battle. THen it adds them to your character profile (part of the character creation process)
once added they can the be used in battle and potions and such can be used from a persons own character inventory.

aftr the shop is finished I shall start on the Ref Panel wich will prolly never be seen here because i currently use th battle system im using to devlop this with manualy for battle the ref panel will aid the manual battles and make them quicker, and it will also be used for the fram of the actual battle hack itself.

WHen people make attacks in battle the commands will be dumped to a forum that is designated as the battle arena and will be dumped into a thread specified for the name of the battle that way the history of the battle is recorded. This also gives the bility for otehrs to watch the battle progress.

Most importantly this system will be 100% automated for admins and mods as well as easy on the server if i can help it..

estimated % done 40-50

estimated time till completion 1-2 months

i will keep you updated.

[D]Vincent
08-28-2002, 06:48 AM
vB3 will probably be out by then and you would ust have to do it over again with vB3, so just a suggestion that you wait to release it with vB3. But whatever it's up to you, sounds great so far.

kmfdm_kid2000
08-28-2002, 07:43 AM
After reading a very Looooooooooong thread, it really doesn't sound half bad. I know you've been working on this hack for a very long time, at least since I've known you. After seeing your work first hand, I can say that it does look pretty good. Just don't over complicate it, that's all. Some people have a hard time figuring out how to post, let alone an over complicated RPG battle system, and I've told you this before. That's why I keep mine so simple, but you said to me in the past, most of this will be automated, but like the other RPG Hack you made, which is still by far one of the best RPG hacks IMHO to date, just keep it user friendly, because not all users learn things as fast as everyone else, and over complication will just cause headaches...

This is a hack I'd like to use in the future, as I possibly might not be migrating to vB3 (At least no time soon), and once again, like the other hack, I might want to change/ drop/ add things to suit my needs...

Keep it up though, you've got support, but judging by all of the things you do, do you REALLY think you'll have it out that soon??

zajako
08-30-2002, 07:14 AM
2 months will be the latest i have this done. If its any longer its do to something coming up preventing me from working on it. I am already pretty close to halfway done.

Also this hack will be very user friendly.
Thanks for the compliments.

DemiNeo0101
08-31-2002, 05:20 PM
Im startng to work on a RPG hack to, But I wanna see if somone can either help me or can use what i have right now.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43001&highlight=RPG+hack

If you can use me, Gimme a message.

Storm
09-02-2002, 03:26 AM
This looks like it's going to be a very cool hack.. I can't wait until it's done, but in the meantime, keep up the good work! :)

Colon33
09-08-2002, 01:19 AM
Hey, is there anyway or some kind of conversion if we use some already created RPG hacks? Like Itemshop, class hack, limit break hack.. Stats hack.. will any of this be able to transfer over?

Neo
09-08-2002, 02:22 AM
Cider & Cookies Are Good.

Airs
10-17-2002, 01:37 AM
i think this is a greaat idea althought this would be finished much faster if all the people who were working on their own RPG hack all coloborate and work on one, then there wouldn't be so many add-ons either

LightBringer
10-17-2002, 01:58 AM
How's the development on this coming? :)

Dark Shogun
10-17-2002, 03:36 AM
He probably is not still working on it. :( Don't worry though because G-Force2k2 is working on one.

Dark Shogun

Graphics
10-17-2002, 04:13 AM
he is, but he has AlOt of projects going on

zajako
10-27-2002, 06:42 AM
indeed, i have started back up on it but i work on 3 other large projects at once. I will have it done as soon as i can, i have not forgotten and plan to trry my damnedest for you guys :]

zajako
10-27-2002, 11:08 PM
allright im haveing some slight financial issues do to all the time i spend coding on non paying sites but as promised i will not charge for this hack. However, i will allow people to donate because i know that some people do have money they would like to send to a cause such as this. While i also know that others do not have money to give or can't send money through the net. Thats why i will put up a donation link. the hack will still be free, and i will not do anything to change that. but if you desire to contribute to the cause of this hack here is a paypal link, and it is greatly appriciated.

Donate with Paypal (https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=twistedfategame%40hotmail.com&item_name=Rpg+Hack)

I also have redesinged the tables for this hack:

each user can now make multiple characters, which all have a class, a element, a race, and gender. each also can equip 1 wepon, 1 piece of armour, and 1 accessory. THey can carry 5 items each and up to 10 potions. Also each user has a shared inventory with their characters and can equip items to each char, though a equipment page similar to that of a rpg on a console system. This will be a very nice rpg hack so please be patient with me :]

Zachery
10-27-2002, 11:21 PM
^_^ zajako is the best !

Asso
10-28-2002, 02:09 PM
reeeeeelase it!! :)

Link14716
10-28-2002, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Ninth Dimension
<offtopic>

Nothing againt 14 year old kids here, and I can respect the fact that you may have some fantastic web design and deelopment skills. but don't you think you should be playing in the park, or studying at school, or hanging with friends or something?

I'm not having a go at any 14 year old kids, or saying that they should not being a computer, or indeed anything like that. all I'm saying is that you should enjoy life while you are young, you can't spend time worrying about your website, or your forum software, or complaining about which hacks need to be free.

Go you, enjoy yourself have some fun, get a tan, and LIVE!!!

</off topic>

Let me make a couple offtopic thingamabobs.

To reply to your comments, well, for one, I have no need to study. I get 100's on tests without studying, hence the fact that I have never studied.

I am ant-social. No friends, don't care for any right now. All the firneds I have ever had were backstabbers anyway.

So bleh. Now you know about my pitiful life. :)

Ninth Dimension
10-30-2002, 03:26 PM
zajako, I would love to offer you some cash to help you out, but at the moment i'm in the same boat as you regarding the fininchal issues, etc.. I've had two letters from debt collectors today, and thing are noyt looking good, so I can't offer any money i'm sorry to say.

However, I'm more than happy to help in other ways - maybe as a beta tester, or if you need some help with code, etc.. let me know.

Link14716, dude, life is a +++++, you just need to get used to it, if your friends are all arseholes, they are not real friend, so go get some more. Like i said, go out, have fun, enjoy yourself - you have plenty of time in your life to do coding 'n' stuff.

Everyone else, hello :)

zajako
10-31-2002, 05:37 AM
Its ok 9th. As for testers i have 3 and thats all i need for now.

However im going to be relleaseign some new screenshots shortly of the new system :P

Jacko
10-31-2002, 07:27 AM
i WOULD love to test it with my new board.. need me then shout me matey..

steven_jacko@hotmail.com <--- MSN!

Link14716
10-31-2002, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Ninth Dimension
[b]Link14716, dude, life is a +++++, you just need to get used to it, if your friends are all arseholes, they are not real friend, so go get some more. Like i said, go out, have fun, enjoy yourself - you have plenty of time in your life to do coding 'n' stuff.


Duh. Hence why I have no friends. I like coding, hell, I am actually doing something remotely useful for a change. :D

Go, zajako, go! :)

zajako
11-01-2002, 07:01 AM
all talk about my rpg hack is going to be here.


https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?s=&postid=317240#post317240

ill also post all new sccreens there

Gary King
10-12-2003, 02:32 AM
How in the Hell can someone steal PHP coding simply from visiting a forum??
Well you could pretty much copy the functionality.

Zachery
10-12-2003, 03:56 AM
this thread is OLD

please stop draging up old posts

Gary King
11-23-2003, 01:51 AM
Maybe old for you but I didn't see it until now.
Dragged it up again.. :rolleyes:

Zachery
11-23-2003, 10:22 AM
Maybe old for you but I didn't see it until now.
BECASUE ITS OLD! ?

assassingod
11-23-2003, 10:28 AM
What Faranth means is that the actual creation of this thread is old, and the idea may have been stopped.

Zachery
11-23-2003, 10:31 AM
What Faranth means is that the actual creation of this thread is old, and the idea may have been stopped.
it has been created, its called RCS now, and is aviable at the website for it. i should ask to have this closed >.>