Vb5 bad reviews everywhere. Why?

[Greek76]

Why are people bad taking vb5 throughout the webmaster scene. I’m reading nothing but reviews and I just bought a vb5 version. Is it true that it’s garbage and not worth buying? Plus over vb.org there’s hardly any new modifications or styles for it. They’re saying ever since jelsoft sold it’s become garbage.

[DCD.RB]

Even the support team at vB5 says vB5 is better as a packaged platform. So if someone wanted to start a forum, vB5 may offer more than what XenForo offers as a standalone product.

Then there's the support issues, like this customer who paid for vBulletin's cloud services so it was all fully managed & supported by vBulletin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMnavb--lM4

Listen to his story. He was ignored. XF's Developers swooped in to help him migrate over to XF.

My opinion of vB5, it's a bloated platform. It's like buying a brand name PC: HP, Lenovo, Dell, etc.

Where it comes with all the extra software that makes it feel heavy.

I prefer the customizability, like PC enthusiast who custom build their PCs. Sure it cost more in the long run, but it performs much better when it's exactly tailored to you, and not just the general public.

I've switched to XF myself.

You should see this too:
https://www.theadminzone.com/threads/vbulletin-dead-no-rich-resources-mods-available-upgrades-costing-too.153532/#post-1158138

[z3r0]

It's absolute junk only useful for small hobist sites, no serious forum admin would go near it.

[Greek76]

I wish I could get a refund on my vb purchase. Didn’t download it yet so I wonder if that would get me my money back and thanks for your feedback.

[zappaDPJ]

I wish I could get a refund on my vb purchase. Didn?t download it yet so I wonder if that would get me my money back and thanks for your feedback.

That certainly used to be the case and possibly still is. Unfortunately vbulletin.com is currently off-line, supposedly due to server maintenance but when it comes back you might want to check to see if you are entitled to a refund before you download anything.

I also agree with what's been said, vB5 is not something I would want to use. The underlying code is old, there are still way too many bugs and it's proving rather insecure. There's also virtually no third party support.

If I really had to use it I'd look at the hosted version which appears to be better supported plus it's limited in terms of customisation so there's less to go wrong.

[In Omnibus]

It's absolute junk only useful for small hobist sites, no serious forum admin would go near it.

I keep hearing this from people who want to use outdated technology to run their forums.

Personally, I think it's the other way around. People who don't want to have to learn anything new prefer vBulletin 4 and (cough) a competing product.

But the nonsense that people cling to with those products like arcades and shoutboxes is useless against social media.

So much more can be done with vBulletin 5 to bring forums, web media, social media, and other information together than was ever possible with any other platform.

People with existing sites didn't want to fundamentally change their forums and I understand that. Users are generally resistant to change.

But if I were starting a new forum I wouldn't use anything other than vBulletin 5. Nothing else comes close to doing what it does out of the box.

[z3r0]

But if I were starting a new forum I wouldn't use anything other than vBulletin 5. Nothing else comes close to doing what it does out of the box.

Then you would be starting a small hobbyist site or setting yourself up to fail, out of all the current products on the market vb5 is the absolute worst.

[pappocapo]

Then you would be starting a small hobbyist site or setting yourself up to fail, out of all the current products on the market vb5 is the absolute worst.

I think programmers don't get along with vbulletin 5 precisely because they don't let them get their hands on it. Vbulletin changed its business strategy where programmers made lite and pro plugins and put them out of work. You just have to install Vbulletin 5 and get to work on the content, not wasting time on thousands of mods that later is a huge job to update. All other forum brands allow programmers to post paid plugins in their forums instead vbulletin took the best of each and incorporated it directly leaving many unemployed. It is a more commercial issue than performance.

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I have had my forum with more than 250,000 users and I have sold it to buy my house, now I am starting another one again always faithful to vbulletin since 2008. Notice how unprofessional are the programmers who leave the mods adrift without enter more and their websites are down. That's why stay in large companies that will give you continuity if you want a long-term project and only take care of the relevant content, everyone likes to put their hands but few write

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vbulletin 5.6.3 is not for whiny programmers who switched to xenforo because there they may have more work, it is for editors who know how to post, so just install it, configure it and write. don't add anything else.

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It seems to me that they have not yet learned from what happened with bvseo that being the most famous plugin overnight left us all hanging without support. So if you are not a professional programmer who can solve things alone, do not install anything from third parties. Stay with the original version that has everything you need and what you no longer have today is not relevant from an SEO point of view, even if many say otherwise.

[saadessa1]

Currently I am testing it, knowing that I have spent a long time with version 3 and version 4

[In Omnibus]

Then you would be starting a small hobbyist site or setting yourself up to fail, out of all the current products on the market vb5 is the absolute worst.

The most popular forum right now is one that stole the entire concept of vBulletin 4 and updated the code to be modern. It's a decade plus old concept. To me, insisting on using something designed for the last millennium is setting oneself up for failure. Social media, like it or not, is here to stay. vBulletin 5 connects with all major social media seamlessly. Not one other forum product does that out of the box.

I really don't understand your position.

[z3r0]

The most popular forum right now is one that stole the entire concept of vBulletin 4 and updated the code to be modern.

I think you are trying to infer that xenforo stole the vb4 concept - that comment alone proves you haven't got a clue what you are talking about and I really shouldn't waste any more time debating with you.

[yilmaz]

The most popular forum right now is one that stole the entire concept of vBulletin 4 and updated the code to be modern. It's a decade plus old concept. To me, insisting on using something designed for the last millennium is setting oneself up for failure. Social media, like it or not, is here to stay. vBulletin 5 connects with all major social media seamlessly. Not one other forum product does that out of the box.

I really don't understand your position.
I exactly agree with you.

[ahmed85]

I have a small vB 5 site that need a minimal customization, and it work great. don't now the case with large busy sites though.

[In Omnibus]

I think you are trying to infer that xenforo stole the vb4 concept - that comment alone proves you haven't got a clue what you are talking about and I really shouldn't waste any more time debating with you.

Mike and Kier were developing XF while they were working for Internet Brands developing vBulletin 4. vBulletin 5 didn't exist at the time. If you put vBulletin 4 and XF 1 next to each other you can barely tell them apart. In fact, a very large number of the third party mod and add on coders took their existing vBulletin 4 mods and started selling them on XF without having to do anything structural to them to make them work.

You're probably correct in that you should not spend time debating this with me.

You're certainly not quick to point out that most of the bad reviews of vBulletin 5 are from when it was first released. It looks very much like your opinion of vBulletin 5 is from then as well. It's not the same product now or even close.

[Greek76]

I keep hearing this from people who want to use outdated technology to run their forums.

Personally, I think it's the other way around. People who don't want to have to learn anything new prefer vBulletin 4 and (cough) a competing product.

But the nonsense that people cling to with those products like arcades and shoutboxes is useless against social media.

So much more can be done with vBulletin 5 to bring forums, web media, social media, and other information together than was ever possible with any other platform.

People with existing sites didn't want to fundamentally change their forums and I understand that. Users are generally resistant to change.

But if I were starting a new forum I wouldn't use anything other than vBulletin 5. Nothing else comes close to doing what it does out of the box.

I actually prefer vb3 only because of its forum default style. Functionality wise I’m sure vb5 is great. I just hate the look of the templates that are being available for vb5. I just happen to like the old vb3 default style.

[kokes2]

I've got the vb5 to work with...and so far...it pleases ME...

On a side note...could this be the z3r0...I know...cause fok...that would really please ME...

[Greek76]

I have to say that I’m extremely pleased with VB5. Functionality and ease of use is very easy. It might of been crap when it first came out but I definitely like it and I’m a guy that doesn’t like change hence why I stuck with vb4 for so long. I just wish that there were mods being added but it is what it is.

[Mr Peabody]

Then you would be starting a small hobbyist site or setting yourself up to fail, out of all the current products on the market vb5 is the absolute worst.

Absolute rubbish. I've run VBulletin for 15 years and migrated to VB5 at the beginning of the year. my only issue with VB5 is how long its taken to get to where it is now which cost them customers and killed the modding community.
My site is by no means small and to say Xenforo is without issues is absolute BS.

Having said that If I started a new forum I probably would go with Xenforo just to try it out but I'm sick of this trashing of VB by people who don't even use the software anymore and have obvious agenda's.

[Greek76]

Absolute rubbish. I've run VBulletin for 15 years and migrated to VB5 at the beginning of the year. my only issue with VB5 is how long its taken to get to where it is now whic cost them customers and killed the modding community.
My site is by no means small and to say Xenforo is without issues is absolute BS.

Having said that If I started a new forum I probably would go with Xenforo just to try it out but I'm sick of this trashing of VB by people who don't even use the software anymore and have obvious agenda's.

I'm actually using Xenforo for my other forum. It's not a bad forum software at all. My only problem with Xenforo are the themes. They are seriously ugly lol. Vbulletin by far has the best styles. When it comes down to addon Xenforo is full of them. Lots of mods but the difference between vb and theirs is that you have to pay for most of them.

[michaelclyde]

I actually prefer vb3 . . just happen to like the old vb3 default style.

Greek I just tried to clean install a 3.8.2 test forum running legacy PHP 5.6 with FAIL . . .

Any ideas/suggestions WHY? Server is currently using MySQL Version: 82

[Hostboard]

Greek I just tried to clean install a 3.8.2 test forum running legacy PHP 5.6 with FAIL . . .

Any ideas/suggestions WHY? Server is currently using MySQL Version: 82

The issue is MySQL 8 as VB3 was not written for it.
At the very least you wil have to fix install/mysql-schema.php in order for MySQL 8 to function with VB 3.

[Greek76]

Greek I just tried to clean install a 3.8.2 test forum running legacy PHP 5.6 with FAIL . . .

Any ideas/suggestions WHY? Server is currently using MySQL Version: 82

Just like Hostboard stated. It's a compatibility issue with the version of your msql..

[74v]

insanlar neden birisini kötülemek isterki?
bunun tek bir sebebi vardır vbulletin tüm üçkağıtçılık yapan ve milleti dolandırmaya yönelik kişileri etkisiz hale getirdi vbullettin 5 bence gelmiş geçmiş en iyi forumlardan bir tanesidir ne demişler tilki alamadığı bir yiyeceği kirletirmiş sizinde bu mesele oluyor vbulletin 5 güvenlik konusunda şuanda tüm alt yapı forumlarından iyidir xenforo ib bunlar zaten vbulletin den esinlenerek yola çıktı yakın bir zamanda vb5 internet fenomeni olacak şöyle birşey de vardır vb5 geliştiricileri yerinde olsam markamı kötüleyecek kişiler yakında geldiğinde 250 usd ise 890 usd karşılığında satarım veya tüm ürün kullanımını isim kirletme yapmasından dolayı durdururum

[Hostboard]

insanlar neden birisini k?t?lemek isterki?
bunun tek bir sebebi vardır vbulletin t?m ??kağıt?ılık yapan ve milleti dolandırmaya y?nelik kişileri etkisiz hale getirdi vbullettin 5 bence gelmiş ge?miş en iyi forumlardan bir tanesidir ne demişler tilki alamadığı bir yiyeceği kirletirmiş sizinde bu mesele oluyor vbulletin 5 g?venlik konusunda şuanda t?m alt yapı forumlarından iyidir xenforo ib bunlar zaten vbulletin den esinlenerek yola ?ıktı yakın bir zamanda vb5 internet fenomeni olacak ş?yle birşey de vardır vb5 geliştiricileri yerinde olsam markamı k?t?leyecek kişiler yakında geldiğinde 250 usd ise 890 usd karşılığında satarım veya t?m ?r?n kullanımını isim kirletme yapmasından dolayı durdururum

Loosely translated from Turkish as:

Why do people want to defame someone
There is only one reason for this vbulletin has neutralized all the people who are fraudulent and defrauding the nation vbullettin 5 is one of the best forums ever, what they said fox polluted a food that it could not buy, this issue happens to you vbulletin 5 is better than all infrastructure forums on security right now xenforo ib These are already inspired by vbulletin, there is something like vb5 internet phenomenon in a near future.If the developers of vb5 are in place, I will sell my brand for 250 usd and 890 usd if the people who will disgrace my brand come soon, or I will stop the use of the product because of the name pollution.

[ricorico]

Salve, sono un utente normale e ho un forum sia con vb4 e uno con vb5 , concordo con molte persone, VB5 non ha tutto quei plugin o style , ma a me piace moltissimo, assieme ad un amico abbiamo creato un bel forum con VB5 abbiamo cambiato o personalizzato alcune , cose, devo dire che all´inizio é stato un pochino difficile, ma una volta che ci hai fatto la mano, va alla grande, una cosa abbiamo notato, il VB5 é molto piu sensibile diciamo cosi hai cambiamenti che si fanno, ma forse é dovuto alla nostra poca esperienza, attualmente abbiamo la versione vb5.61 , é offline perche abbiamo il vecchio VB4 che cammina con la licenza, appena noteremo dei problemi con il VB4 passeremo al 5, intanto speriamo che qualche programmatore metta qualche bel style in rete , perche c´e ne sono veramente pochi ,
Ciao

[Hostboard]

Salve, sono un utente normale e ho un forum sia con vb4 e uno con vb5 , concordo con molte persone, VB5 non ha tutto quei plugin o style , ma a me piace moltissimo, assieme ad un amico abbiamo creato un bel forum con VB5 abbiamo cambiato o personalizzato alcune , cose, devo dire che all?inizio ? stato un pochino difficile, ma una volta che ci hai fatto la mano, va alla grande, una cosa abbiamo notato, il VB5 ? molto piu sensibile diciamo cosi hai cambiamenti che si fanno, ma forse ? dovuto alla nostra poca esperienza, attualmente abbiamo la versione vb5.61 , ? offline perche abbiamo il vecchio VB4 che cammina con la licenza, appena noteremo dei problemi con il VB4 passeremo al 5, intanto speriamo che qualche programmatore metta qualche bel style in rete , perche c?e ne sono veramente pochi ,
Ciao

For the English speaking users...

loosely translates to:

Hi, I'm a normal user and I have a forum with both vb4 and one with vb5, I agree with many people, VB5 doesn't have all those plugins or styles, but I like it very much, together with a friend we created a nice forum with VB5 we have changed or customized some, things, I must say that at first it was a little difficult, but once you get the hang of it, it's great, one thing we noticed, the VB5 is much more sensitive let's say you have changes that yes do, but perhaps it is due to our lack of experience, we currently have version vb5.61, it is offline because we have the old VB4 that walks with the license, as soon as we notice problems with VB4 we will move on to 5, in the meantime we hope that some programmers nice style on the net, because there are very few of them,
Hi

[74v]

Loosely translated from Turkish as:

Why do people want to defame someone
There is only one reason for this vbulletin has neutralized all the people who are fraudulent and defrauding the nation vbullettin 5 is one of the best forums ever, what they said fox polluted a food that it could not buy, this issue happens to you vbulletin 5 is better than all infrastructure forums on security right now xenforo ib These are already inspired by vbulletin, there is something like vb5 internet phenomenon in a near future.If the developers of vb5 are in place, I will sell my brand for 250 usd and 890 usd if the people who will disgrace my brand come soon, or I will stop the use of the product because of the name pollution.

vbulletin candır gerisi heyecandır belki birbirimizi dil y?z?nden iyi anlayamıyoruz ama vbulletin seviyorum ben :): D: yukarı:

[seinkalar]

Because it has error.

Now I set GMT+6.5 on this forum but it only shows

All times are GMT +6. The time now is 13:39.

My real time now is 14:09.

On forum.vbulletin.com It shows All times are GMT+6. This page was generated at 2:09pm.

And I found there are so many minor bugs on the forum.

I'm trying to submit bug but I still can't login to their bug report system yet.

Anyway, I still think it's worth to buy vb at the moment. Because of the reasonable price, you will not get a very perfect system.

We need to help by reporting bugs/errors and they also have to fix them.