vbCMS big sites??

[SilverBoy]

Hi

I want to know if there are big sites use vBCMS as their front page to display articles and news?

Do you know some?

Thanks.

[webmastersun]

There are many sites on vB using vBCMS and you can find some by using forum search function.
For my forum, I don't use this to display articles and news but still can show them on forum homepage, that should be better!

[SilverBoy]

Thank you webmastersun for your kind reply.
I'm really looking for sites use vBCMS in heavy way to know if I made the right decision to use it in my news site or not, because I have problems with server load and want to know if the problem in the script or in my plugins.
here my site
www.manshor.net

[SilverBoy]

any one?

[TheLastSuperman]

www.semiwiki.com has over 5000+ CMS Articles. They won't be there long though the owner has tasked me with converting everything vBulletin the CMS and Forums to Wordpress which is happening very soon I even had to customize an older script to import the CMS Articles.

vB4 CMS works fine as-is but its not as easy and simple as Wordpress nor will it ever be (as vB4 CMS is not being improved since vB5 is out etc etc). I've seen many sites that utilize vBulletin as the forum with a bridge or SSO (single sign-on) where it worked great and the site owner had an easier back-end to use for their front page (WP :p).

Edit: Some things are useful though from the vB CMS, such as promoting a forum thread to an article, which by using Wordpress you would not be able to do unless you did that manually - is that one feature solely a good reason to use it over another software such as Wordpress, well no not to me but to some it might be. I would install Wordpress in a sub-folder on your site and give it a spin, it literally takes less than five minutes to install and then you can see how creating a new article (post) compares in Wordpress to that of your vBulletin CMS and make a well-informed decision then as to which one feels and fits better for you! ;)

[AndrewSimm]

My site has several thousand articles and we use the CMS
https://www.canesinsight.com/

[SilverBoy]

www.semiwiki.com has over 5000+ CMS Articles. They won't be there long though the owner has tasked me with converting everything vBulletin the CMS and Forums to Wordpress which is happening very soon I even had to customize an older script to import the CMS Articles.

vB4 CMS works fine as-is but its not as easy and simple as Wordpress nor will it ever be (as vB4 CMS is not being improved since vB5 is out etc etc). I've seen many sites that utilize vBulletin as the forum with a bridge or SSO (single sign-on) where it worked great and the site owner had an easier back-end to use for their front page (WP :p).

Edit: Some things are useful though from the vB CMS, such as promoting a forum thread to an article, which by using Wordpress you would not be able to do unless you did that manually - is that one feature solely a good reason to use it over another software such as Wordpress, well no not to me but to some it might be. I would install Wordpress in a sub-folder on your site and give it a spin, it literally takes less than five minutes to install and then you can see how creating a new article (post) compares in Wordpress to that of your vBulletin CMS and make a well-informed decision then as to which one feels and fits better for you! ;)

Thank you TheLastSuperman for your reply
Actually I invested a lot of time and money to develop vBCMS to looks like you see in my site now, but unfortunately I had problems regarding server load, so I'm start thinking in moving to WordPress if I get the right person to import all of my articles, news and reviews to it, with all of my added features of course.
Do you or do you know some one can do this job?
Thanks in advance.

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My site has several thousand articles and we use the CMS
https://www.canesinsight.com/

Nice work, good for you :)

[Paul M]

Actually I invested a lot of time and money to develop vBCMS to looks like you see in my site now, but unfortunately I had problems regarding server load, so I'm start thinking in moving to WordPress
You should sort your server issues out, that will be a lot simpler than trying to convert to WP.

[SilverBoy]

I know, but when I investigated the server load issue, the host company guy said there is a problem in my plugins!!

Did you see my CMS Paul? we made a lot of plugins to make it more professional, and I think there is a problem in one or some of them, but unfortunately we couldn't catch it yet !!

Here is my site www.manshor.net

[Paul M]

I know, but when I investigated the server load issue, the host company guy said there is a problem in my plugins
Sorry, but hosts are generally clueless, they just blame software because it sounds plausible and they can fob you off. Ask them to be specific, what problem ? what plugin ?

[SilverBoy]

I know they are :D
They don't know which plugin do this issue, but in debug mode my front page of my CMS has more than 700 queries !!

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The load a lot of time be very high, and get increase more and more till the server crash!!

[Mark.B]

So, they insist the server load is down to 'a problem with your plugins', but when you ask them which problem on which plugin, they don't know?

Time for a new host.

[TheLastSuperman]

I know, but when I investigated the server load issue, the host company guy said there is a problem in my plugins!!

Did you see my CMS Paul? we made a lot of plugins to make it more professional, and I think there is a problem in one or some of them, but unfortunately we couldn't catch it yet !!

Here is my site www.manshor.net

I've had more clients and myself on their behalf in tickets systems told this by Hosts from all over the world, all I can say is wow 700 queries makes what they say sound legitimate and you should definitely address that HOWEVER 99.9% of the time when a host says it's "the script" it's "the plugins" it isn't! That is just the only scapegoat they have because they don't have an answer to your current issue plain and simple.

So, they insist the server load is down to 'a problem with your plugins', but when you ask them which problem on which plugin, they don't know?

Time for a new host.

Usually I'd say yes but he did just tell us that in debug mode there are over 700 queries on his cms page this may just be the 0.01% lol!

[AndrewSimm]

I know, but when I investigated the server load issue, the host company guy said there is a problem in my plugins!!

Did you see my CMS Paul? we made a lot of plugins to make it more professional, and I think there is a problem in one or some of them, but unfortunately we couldn't catch it yet !!

Here is my site www.manshor.net

The thing I would recommend is shortening that main page. You have a lot of images loading that users will likely not scroll down to. Also a lot of those image are larger than what is needed. If you indeed have 700 queries then as others have mentioned that needs to be reduced.

[Brandon Sheley]

You should sort your server issues out, that will be a lot simpler than trying to convert to WP.

I agree with Paul but..
I would also strongly lean towards having my articles in the, for lack of better words, google friendly CMS being wordpress over vbulletins.
You'll get much better results in my opinion building traffic using wordpress and there are bridges or should be at least for vb - wp.

[Mark.B]

Usually I'd say yes but he did just tell us that in debug mode there are over 700 queries on his cms page this may just be the 0.01% lol!
That's as maybe but the host couldn't actually pinpoint that, so I'd still go with "they're making it up as they go along".

The vast majority of hosts really don't have a clue and certainly don't want any of the more intensive scripts like forums running on their servers. Give them some static html pages, they can just about handle that.

Trouble is, even today, people are happy to spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars / pounds / whatever on their software, then try to squeeze it on a cheap and nasty host. It never ends well.

[Brandon Sheley]

I know, but when I investigated the server load issue, the host company guy said there is a problem in my plugins!!

Did you see my CMS Paul? we made a lot of plugins to make it more professional, and I think there is a problem in one or some of them, but unfortunately we couldn't catch it yet !!

Here is my site www.manshor.net

The home page took a whole 60 second to load, you can see exactly what's slowing it down by right clicking and view elements.
There are more issues with your site other then that home page though. Good luck

[SilverBoy]

So, they insist the server load is down to 'a problem with your plugins', but when you ask them which problem on which plugin, they don't know?

Time for a new host.

Actually we made a lot of plugins specially for vBCMS, and when we deactivate the CMS and all related plugins that we made (allow only forum and other plugins) the load is OK !!

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I've had more clients and myself on their behalf in tickets systems told this by Hosts from all over the world, all I can say is wow 700 queries makes what they say sound legitimate and you should definitely address that HOWEVER 99.9% of the time when a host says it's "the script" it's "the plugins" it isn't! That is just the only scapegoat they have because they don't have an answer to your current issue plain and simple.



Usually I'd say yes but he did just tell us that in debug mode there are over 700 queries on his cms page this may just be the 0.01% lol!

The point here is that, sometimes whoisonline page didn't show any one at homepage and the users spread on other pages (CMS + Forum), but again the debug mode shows that the article page have 100+ queries !!

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Case study

Go to this link
http://www.manshor.net/forum/content.php?854-%D8%A5%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B9

All widget that we have here are last articles widget with modified template only, but the debug says this ..
Page Generation 7.66470 seconds Memory Usage 42,341KB Queries Executed 909 (?)

Is there problem in the widget it self??

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The thing I would recommend is shortening that main page. You have a lot of images loading that users will likely not scroll down to. Also a lot of those image are larger than what is needed. If you indeed have 700 queries then as others have mentioned that needs to be reduced.

The question is how reduce the queries??

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I agree with Paul but..
I would also strongly lean towards having my articles in the, for lack of better words, google friendly CMS being wordpress over vbulletins.
You'll get much better results in my opinion building traffic using wordpress and there are bridges or should be at least for vb - wp.

I'm really considering moving to WP!!

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The home page took a whole 60 second to load, you can see exactly what's slowing it down by right clicking and view elements.
There are more issues with your site other then that home page though. Good luck
Soory Brandon could you please explain in more details how I can see exactly which element slowing down my page?
Thanks.