User blocks me (Scam)?

[Legende]

Hi

I've paid someone some pounds for making me an addon in this forum. Now the user blocks my PM/email? What can i do?

Regards

[ozzy47]

Not much you can do, if they scammed you then it is a expensive learning experience.

[Legende]

Would be good if the user gets banned, so others don't make the same expensive mistake ..

[ozzy47]

VBulletin does not get involved in disputes between two parties that entered into a agreement. Best thing is buyer beware.

[akz645]

I'm sorry to hear that :(

Scandal (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/member.php?u=122644)
I recommend him. He has many positives review too & very reasonable price :up:
I also like his policy.

He creates the product and hosts it on his test website. You can test out and report any bugs/suggestions/improvements to him.
Once you're satisfied with the product, you pay him.

I probably wouldn't let any other coder tell me otherwise regarding policy for payment.
Unless they're a reputable company like DB Tech.

[Legende]

Thanks but i really had good experience before hiring on this board. He wanted also the paypal payment as a gift to avoid fees .. well i learned my lesson now.

[ozzy47]

Wanting as a gift should have been a giant red flag. :)

[Brandon Sheley]

Wanting as a gift should have been a giant red flag. :)

I wouldn't necessarily say that. I don't bother with it but some groups I'm with "non forum ppl" ask for payment with paypals friends and family all the time, or they'll add 3% to the total.

I would say that paying for something ahead of time with someone you hadn't dealt with before and not seeing anything yet, would be a red flag. ;)

[ozzy47]

If it a trusted group, or person then it is understandable. But when someone you know is trying to circumvent one system, then I would question their integrity.

[TheLastSuperman]

IF and I mean IF you posted this as a paid request, in the actual paid request forum then you can provide short and simple feedback in the same paid request thread. This cannot be discussed in the open forum if using their name etc. Its ok to discuss it, as it stands now in this current thread as no names were given and you simply asked for community advice on the subject :cool:.

Reference:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=136844

Have an American Express Card? If they still do this (last time I heard they did) use it to pay via PayPal - if they cheat you then file a complaint with both PayPal and American Express, AE will issue a refund despite whether PayPal does or not *typically as they side with their customers. Also never give as a gift via PayPal... if they do forum work then they should be paying the fees, that to me is a red flag as well because if you're not claiming all that you make then you're ripping off the government on your tax return and the government can throw you in a cell and the key along with it so sure they'll cheat you in a heartbeat what are you going to do throw Ice Cream at them if they don't deliver the product? Lovely! <-- That's the only solid advice I can give you aside from checking references and if it sounds too good to be true, it is!

[BirdOPrey5]

They were scamming PayPal with your help, not surprised they scammed you.

I never pay someone using the family/friend option on PayPal unless I'm really using it to send money to family. If they're worried about the 3% or whatever PayPal takes they should have asked for 3% more money to begin with.

I sometimes don't know people are like that until its too late, in those cases I send them the extra few dollars and pay normally, and never do business with them again.

[billstelling]

It goes both ways.. I've been shafted more times than I care to count when it comes to getting paid once the work is done. In fact, no one here on this site has paid up as agreed when I have accepted work from them and completed it.

They were my best bud until the work was done and then I could not even get them to respond to any correspondence. So needless to say, I tend to shy away from anyone on this site asking for help or for any work to be done.

For some reason, most just don't realize the amount of time and effort that goes into creating something like this.. http://billstelling.com/forum.php

[RichieBoy67]

I usually ask for nothing until the work is done and so far most have paid me as promised.

Nice work Bill! I love the slider. Very unique!

[billstelling]

Thanks Richie.. It's DBtech's slider, just redone to suite the clients needs. Just finished on the 4.2.3 conversion for the style as it was causing issues from being started on a 4.1.9 site. I completely rebuilt it on a clean default vb style. The header was a pain to mod, Getting the z-index sorted was the biggest headache..

Going to start redoing his themes based on the light and dark versions I just redid.. This is pretty much how it will look once I have it all done. The header and footer that is.. http://os-evolve.com/?styleid=6 That is from the original 4.1.9 style before I rebuilt the masters this week.

[Max Taxable]

Hi

I've paid someone some pounds for making me an addon in this forum. Now the user blocks my PM/email? What can i do?

RegardsWait lemme guess: It's this guy I describe right here (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=2554877&postcount=2), correct?

He's not blocking anyone, he is "unlicensed" now. Therefore can't do PMs. Also can't use vBorg to rip anyone else off.

[akz645]

It goes both ways.. I've been shafted more times than I care to count when it comes to getting paid once the work is done. In fact, no one here on this site has paid up as agreed when I have accepted work from them and completed it.

They were my best bud until the work was done and then I could not even get them to respond to any correspondence. So needless to say, I tend to shy away from anyone on this site asking for help or for any work to be done.

For some reason, most just don't realize the amount of time and effort that goes into creating something like this.. http://billstelling.com/forum.php

That's also true.

If somebody accepted my deal to do a custom job, I will refer them to other vbulletin coders who I have done business with.
The more times you do business, the more trusted of a buyer/seller you become.
If they've never done business with anybody yet, then perhaps take a look at their post count/ see how much contribution they've done/how active they are in the community.

Before allowing anybody else to start doing the work I request, I first negotiate a minimum price. Whether or not I pay extra is up to me. However if I ask for extra suggestions mid way, then it's only fair that I pay more especially if they ask. If I refuse, they do not need to do any extra suggestions.

In any case, if somebody requests to do a job and you do it, but they no longer respond. You should probably sell that product on your website. Link to it in your signature, that you're selling mods on your website.
As the product developer, you should never release the product/give the buyer the product before receiving some (if not all) of the payment.

[TheLastSuperman]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I've been cheated out of $650 on here before by an "ex computer programmer" from the 80's who had retired (was in his 70's) and he refused to pay after I told him that I would not take out all the {session} variables from his templates else it would break his site. I was fired because someone was uneducated and then they refused to pay and I was the one providing services not receiving them and despite only letting down one client, ever, I admit to it instead of hiding it.

Moral of the story? It does not matter who you are or where, this can happen in all walks of life and can also be a two-way street. I would highly recommend checking their profile, references, and other before even considering hiring them... I also advised someone not long ago to give any new coder something small at first, test out the "waters" basically as it were to ensure it will be a mutually beneficial relationship that stands the test of time instead of morals, ethics, or patience for that matter.

Okay now its time for a movie with the wife, I've been procrastinating because I feel like its going to be a chick-flick tonight and all I want to see are guns, bullets, martial arts and/or some humor! RAWR!

[Kairete]

Ladies and Gentlemen,



Beautiful words. But it would be nice if every time this community to do something against the scammers.
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[ozzy47]

Bottom line is the site nor staff get involved in disputes/transactions between members.