Laymens terms on upgrading

[bremereric]

I just downloaded the zipped upgrade to 4.2.3. I am currently running 4.1.3. This is a first time newbie asking the step by step way to do this.

I assume that I upload the zipped file to my home directory and then unzip it.

I have never ran a script to install software so I am real new at it to.

Any free help would be appreciated.

I might be able to take a huge leap to even so newer software also.

I might consider some paid help also.

PHP Version 5.2.17
MySQL Version 5.5.42-37.1-log

[squidsk]

First of all you won't be able to do the upgrade until you also upgrade your version of php, since 4.2.3 required php 5.4 or higher. Second just follow the instructions that come with the download. Copy the contents of upload to your forum root, then run install/upgrade.php, once upgrade is complete delete the install folder.

[bremereric]

First of all you won't be able to do the upgrade until you also upgrade your version of php, since 4.2.3 required php 5.4 or higher. Second just follow the instructions that come with the download. Copy the contents of upload to your forum root, then run install/upgrade.php, once upgrade is complete delete the install folder.So then how do I upgrade the php, I thought that would be the hosting service requirement to do that.

[billstelling]

Go to the Admin Control Panel page and you will see were it lists what php your site is currently running on in the Welcome to the vBulletin Admin Control Panel block.

I just did an upgrade to 4.2.3 and it worked ok. You will more than likely get an error with the cms or blog stuff but just start the upgrade again and it will continue on were it left off. You can also remove the show no error code at the top of the config file if you added it as it is no longer needed now that they have it up to snuff for the newer php protocols.

[bremereric]

Go to the Admin Control Panel page and you will see were it lists what php your site is currently running on in the Welcome to the vBulletin Admin Control Panel block.Look at my first post and you will see that I already know that. Thanks

[billstelling]

ah, my bad.. you need to get with your provider then and get them to upgrade it for you..I think you can use 4.2.pl4 ,or whatever it is for now, but you will need to keep the show no errors code in the config.

[bremereric]

I put up a request for the PHP upgrade to the PHP version.

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Just got this back from my hosting service.

PHP Version 5.4.43

[ForceHSS]

I assume that I upload the zipped file to my home directory and then unzip it.

unzip onto desktop first delete the config.php.new file found in includes folder you dont need

[Seven Skins]

Step 1: Close your forums
Step 2: Backup files
Step 3: Backup database
Step 4: Extract zip file on desktop
Step 5: Make a new zip file only from the contents of "upload" folder in the above extraction.
Step 6: Upload to server and extract.
Step 7: Run upgrade script ... yoursite.com/install/upgrade.php
Step 8: Enter customer number when asked.
Step 9: Once upgrade finishes delete "install" folder.
Step 10: Check if the site is working OK
Step 11: Open the forum and enjoy.

[HM666]

Also if you have a custom skin make sure that you do not overwrite any of the graphic files with it or that you have a backup of those in advance before doing the upgrade.

[loua_oz]

That is, complicated procedures, that have spelled the death of the forums.

Go Facebook, no need for obscure advice like in the posts above, some in their fusnotes asking for money.

[HM666]

That is, complicated procedures, that have spelled the death of the forums.

Go Facebook, no need for obscure advice like in the posts above, some in their fusnotes asking for money.

No one told him to give them money, where did you get that from!?!? Everyone gave him the steps needed. Its not a extremely simple thing for someone just getting started. NO script is simple to upgrade when you are first starting doing this sort of stuff.

[bremereric]

Thanks to all. I am going to try to last out to this weekend to do it so I will have plenty of time to follow all your advices.

[bremereric]

Going to go for it this weekend.

[ForceHSS]

Going to go for it this weekend.
Best to try on a test forum first then when ready backup live site first before you start

[bremereric]

Not so easy.....
This is what I typed in to run the script......
aspenandvolare.com/upload/install/upgrade.php
this is the error I got......
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_FUNCTION in /home1/fbodymop/public_html/aspenandvolare/upload/includes/functions.php on line 5313

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When checking the php version through admincp I get this.....

PHP Version 5.2.17

[Seven Skins]

I think you have uploaded the "upload" folder.
You need to upload the contents of the upload folder to the root of your site.
Root of your site is ... /home1/fbodymop/public_html/aspenandvolare

Correct the error and try running upgrade script .. which should be in this location ..
http://www.aspenandvolare.com/install/upgrade.php

[bremereric]

Now I was able to change the version of php to 5.4
and when I run the script I get this.

Warning: include(): Failed opening '/home1/fbodymop/public_html/aspenandvolare/upload/includes/config.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/php/54/usr/lib64:/usr/php/54/usr/share/pear') in /home1/fbodymop/public_html/aspenandvolare/upload/includes/class_core.php on line 3409


Configuration: includes/config.php does not exist. Please fill out the data in config.php.new and rename it to config.php

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Up to 4.2.3 now

[Brandon Sheley]

Step 1: Close your forums
Step 2: Backup files
Step 3: Backup database
Step 4: Extract zip file on desktop
Step 5: Make a new zip file only from the contents of "upload" folder in the above extraction.
Step 6: Upload to server and extract.
Step 7: Run upgrade script ... yoursite.com/install/upgrade.php
Step 8: Enter customer number when asked.
Step 9: Once upgrade finishes delete "install" folder.
Step 10: Check if the site is working OK
Step 11: Open the forum and enjoy.

One, or two, things to add
after you've upgraded the site make sure the install.php and/or upgrade.php file in the includes folder is removed.

[Disco_Stu]

I just downloaded the zipped upgrade to 4.2.3. I am currently running 4.1.3. This is a first time newbie asking the step by step way to do this.

I assume that I upload the zipped file to my home directory and then unzip it.

I have never ran a script to install software so I am real new at it to.

Any free help would be appreciated.

I might be able to take a huge leap to even so newer software also.

I might consider some paid help also.

PHP Version 5.2.17
MySQL Version 5.5.42-37.1-log


The best advice for upgrading is: Don't do it

[ozzy47]

The best advice for upgrading is: Don't do it

No that is not the best advice. What the OP is running is full of security vulnerabilities, so the best advice is to upgrade.

[Disco_Stu]

No that is not the best advice. What the OP is running is full of security vulnerabilities, so the best advice is to upgrade.

It can't possibly be full of security vulnerabilities - Are you saying that the vBulletin coding crew is not very good?

[ozzy47]

Trolls gonna troll.

You know very well that all software has security issues at one point or another, so don't put words in my mouth. :)

[Disco_Stu]

Trolls gonna troll.

You know very well that all software has security issues at one point or another, so don't put words in my mouth. :)

Maybe all software that coders with limited skill sets created have security flaws but in my 35 years of coding NOT A SINGLE ONE of my systems was ever hacked.

Any coder that creates a system "filled with security vulnerabilities" is one lousy coder

[ozzy47]

Then perhaps you need to make a forum system, so that way it will never require a upgrade.

[akz645]

https://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/upgrade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_HsD0QNgn4

I always find it easier when somebody printscreens a step by step tutorial or makes a video.

[RichieBoy67]

The best advice for upgrading is: Don't do it

I do not think this is good advice at all.

[cellarius]

The best advice for upgrading is: Don't do it
Utter nonsense. If you want to bait, don't do it by giving bad advice to novices. The interpretation does not matter. There have been numerous security fixes since 4.1.3, that simply is a fact. Telling someone to not upgrade such an old version bad advice. My guess is you pretty well know that.

[Disco_Stu]

Then perhaps you need to make a forum system, so that way it will never require a upgrade.

Now that's an idea. Can't be any worse than the constant security issues found in vBulletin.

What's really striking is that a good number of these flaws are not identified by the staff or even the customers. They're found and exploited by hackers. Does that mean the hackers are smarter than the developers? Maybe the hackers should design the next release.


I'll leave that for you to ponder.

[akz645]

I wish vbulletin had a plugin on this website (E.G: LAM ban from thread) (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=263142) that allows moderators to ban individuals from a thread.

[ozzy47]

Now that's an idea. Can't be any worse than the constant security issues found in vBulletin.

What's really striking is that a good number of these flaws are not identified by the staff or even the customers. They're found and exploited by hackers. Does that mean the hackers are smarter than the developers? Maybe the hackers should design the next release.


I'll leave that for you to ponder.

I think it is time to stop high jacking the thread. If you want, you could start your own thread on how every other coder in the world is inferior to your superb coding skills.

[HM666]

Er... bremereric were you able to get your site fully upgraded and working?

[bremereric]

Er... bremereric were you able to get your site fully upgraded and working?Yes but right after that I had my site shutdown. The hosting service claimed that Pm's that sent an e-mail were spam. I am in the process of moving them right now.

[HM666]

Yes but right after that I had my site shutdown. The hosting service claimed that Pm's that sent an e-mail were spam. I am in the process of moving them right now.

Gee that sounds like fun lol. Well let us know if you run into an issue. :)

[bremereric]

Gee that sounds like fun lol. Well let us know if you run into an issue. :)Big issue....Old host fbodymopars.com was the main and aspenvolare.com was the add on. Now aspenandvolare is the main and fbodymopars is supposed to be parked. Yet when you type in www.aspenandvolare.com you get redirected to fbodymopars.com I am guessing that this is one of the php.files. Help is need to point in the right direction. I think I saw this once in the admin cp.

[TheLastSuperman]

^ Check .htaccess file for any redirects, some folks use cpanel for redirects as well so it could be coming from there.

Edit: It sounds like your host simply misunderstood which was the primary versus add-on but also sounds like they at least attempted to do a redirect for you even though it was wrong, still nice of them to try and help you sort this imo.

[bremereric]

^ Check .htaccess file for any redirects, some folks use cpanel for redirects as well so it could be coming from there.

Edit: It sounds like your host simply misunderstood which was the primary versus add-on but also sounds like they at least attempted to do a redirect for you even though it was wrong, still nice of them to try and help you sort this imo.I found the .htaccess file and it was so I changed it to this....

# Use PHP5.4 as default
AddHandler application/x-httpd-php54 .php
RewriteEngine on
AuthUserFile "/home/bremereric/.htpasswds/public_html/passwd"
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://aspenandvolare.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://aspenandvolare.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.aspenandvolare.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.aspenandvolare.com$ [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.()$ - [F,NC]

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Okay I uploaded the .htaccess file and it is still redirecting to fbodymopars. I chose to overwrite the file. Still a no go.

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Point me to the cpanel PHP please

[Dave]

Redirect still happens after you clear the cache of your browser? Sometimes redirects are cached.
I don't get redirected when I go to www.aspenandvolare.com.

[bremereric]

Redirect still happens after you clear the cache of your browser? Sometimes redirects are cached.
I don't get redirected when I go to www.aspenandvolare.com.You sure you don't go to the blue screen of death? I don't see a vbulletin forum.

[Dave]

You sure you don't go to the blue screen of death? I don't see a vbulletin forum.

Well you stated: "Yet when you type in www.aspenandvolare.com you get redirected to fbodymopars.com". So I went to that site but I don't get redirected.
I probably misunderstood you.

[bremereric]

Well you stated: "Yet when you type in www.aspenandvolare.com you get redirected to fbodymopars.com". So I went to that site but I don't get redirected.
I probably misunderstood you.I remember seeing in admincp there is an option screen for the redirect your url. Do you know which php file that is?

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Could someone please go to their admincp....options and find the option for your url. I need to know the path to the file I need to change. Thanks a million in advance.

[bremereric]

Okay, I gave up and decided to start by Installing vbbulletin 4.2.3 but it hangs up at step 18 of 33 of the CMS installation. Got an clues as to why?

[HM666]

Okay, I gave up and decided to start by Installing vbbulletin 4.2.3 but it hangs up at step 18 of 33 of the CMS installation. Got an clues as to why?

Is it giving you an error message or is it just not going past that point? If its giving you an error message please post it so that we can see what it is. It would also help to know what the step is that is that number. You can find that out by clicking the button at the bottom showing the details of what is going on as its updating.

[bremereric]

Is it giving you an error message or is it just not going past that point? If its giving you an error message please post it so that we can see what it is. It would also help to know what the step is that is that number. You can find that out by clicking the button at the bottom showing the details of what is going on as its updating.

No error what so ever it just sits for there forever.
If you restart the install it starts over from scratch asks you about the entries to the database, your forum name and your username and password. Then it goes right to the same spot and hangs up.:mad:

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I get the exact step and function it is performing tonight when I get home.

[HM666]

No error what so ever it just sits for there forever.
If you restart the install it starts over from scratch asks you about the entries to the database, your forum name and your username and password. Then it goes right to the same spot and hangs up.:mad:

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I get the exact step and function it is performing tonight when I get home.

Ok also you need to check that your hosting is currently running the proper PHP & MySQL for this version of vBulletin. That could cause it to hang.

vBulletin 4.0.0 - 4.2.2 requires PHP 5.2.0 or greater, and MySQL 4.1.0 or greater, 4.2.2 requires cURL to be installed.
vBulletin 4.2.3 requires PHP 5.4.0 or greater, and MySQL 4.1.0 or greater, and cURL to be installed.

Those are the requirements. You may want to check to see that your server meets them, if not then usually you can just ask the host to upgrade whichever one does not and they will for free....usually.

[bremereric]

Ok also you need to check that your hosting is currently running the proper PHP & MySQL for this version of vBulletin. That could cause it to hang.



Those are the requirements. You may want to check to see that your server meets them, if not then usually you can just ask the host to upgrade whichever one does not and they will for free....usually.

Here is where it hangs up.......right after 18
Step 18 - Altering cms_nodeinfo Table (1 of 1)
Status: Processing CMS, Step 19 of 33

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I checked and then spoke to the hosting company....
msql 5.5.42
PHP5.4 and they offer 5.5.
cURL 7.34

[bremereric]

No help...I guess I am in the wrong place. I went to vbulletin.com.

[HM666]

No help...I guess I am in the wrong place. I went to vbulletin.com.

Er ok. Sometimes you gotta give people a chance to at least answer you. People on here are just volunteering to help, they all have other real jobs to do as well.

As far as where it hangs I would think that there is possibly a server issue. Maybe the server is timing out or this is possibly a known problem in which checking on vbulletin.com would not hurt.

[bremereric]

Er ok. Sometimes you gotta give people a chance to at least answer you. People on here are just volunteering to help, they all have other real jobs to do as well.

As far as where it hangs I would think that there is possibly a server issue. Maybe the server is timing out or this is possibly a known problem in which checking on vbulletin.com would not hurt.Thanks for your help. I read the sticky and followed the instructions to submit a support ticket and they got it going for me. Somewhere in the config.php file it was hanging up. Probably in the cms section.:up:

[HM666]

Thanks for your help. I read the sticky and followed the instructions to submit a support ticket and they got it going for me. Somewhere in the config.php file it was hanging up. Probably in the cms section.:up:

Glad they got you sorted. :)

[bremereric]

Now I need help with posting pictures in a thread. I copied links of pictures from photobucket in a post. It limits me to 4 including any smilies. Where do I need to change this. I already looked in admincp at the attachment options.

[HM666]

Go to Options > Message Posting And Editing Options and you will find Maximum Images Per Post. Change that setting from 4 to what you want, but keep in mind that if you set it really high it may cause some extra server load and/or problems with your posts loading if there are a lot of images in the post. I set mine to about 10.

[bremereric]

Okay help with the status icons

/images/statusicon/forum_new-48.png

/images/statusicon/forum_old-48.png

I tried to change them to another png but they seem to revert back.

[HM666]

Okay help with the status icons

/images/statusicon/forum_new-48.png

/images/statusicon/forum_old-48.png

I tried to change them to another png but they seem to revert back.

Revert back? Do you notice them actually changed and then they go back? If so you need to try a couple of things in this order...

1. Make sure that you uploaded the images via FTP to the correct directory for your current skin. If you are using vBulletin's built in default skin then you would upload the icon files to YOUR WEB ROOT/vBulletin directory/images/statusicon/filename.png and be sure to over write the images when you upload. If you have a custom skin or a skin other than the vBulletin default those files can be in a different place depending upon the designer. Some designers put the files in a directory with the skin name on it, some put them in a directory called "styles" and so on. The best easiest way to find out where those files are located is to go to your FORUMHOME and right click on an icon and choose "view Image" then look in your top bar for the pathway to that image.

2. Clear the cache in vBulletin do this by going to Maintenance > Clear System Cache. That will clear the cache in vBulletin.

3. Clear your browser cache. This will depend on what browser you are using. I'm sure you can google that if you need that info.

4. If, for some reason it still does not work try clearing your cache in your PC to do this just google "clear cache in windows _______" or whatever OS you are running.

[bremereric]

Something keeps on killing me on my password. I log on and it keeps on telling me I have expired the password tries and have to come back in 15 minutes to try again. Has to be some new vbulletin thing,

[HM666]

Something keeps on killing me on my password. I log on and it keeps on telling me I have expired the password tries and have to come back in 15 minutes to try again. Has to be some new vbulletin thing,

Hmmm that is a new one. In that case you may want to check at vBulletin.com to see if there is a known issue going from vB 4.1 to 4.2. Its not a new vb thing, but on that one I'm not sure what it could be as I have not encountered that before in upgrading vBulletin.

[thetechgenius]

Something keeps on killing me on my password. I log on and it keeps on telling me I have expired the password tries and have to come back in 15 minutes to try again. Has to be some new vbulletin thing,

Did you try to login multiple times using the wrong Username and/or Password?

[HM666]

Did you try to login multiple times using the wrong Username and/or Password?

True. bremereric By default vBulletin is set to only allow 5 login attempts per person even if you are an admin. If that happens it usually times you out of the site for 15 minutes before you can try to login again.

[bremereric]

The saga continues....what the heck is forumrunner? In admincp it prompts me to get the site key at forumrunner.com.

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Revert back? Do you notice them actually changed and then they go back? If so you need to try a couple of things in this order...

1. Make sure that you uploaded the images via FTP to the correct directory for your current skin. If you are using vBulletin's built in default skin then you would upload the icon files to YOUR WEB ROOT/vBulletin directory/images/statusicon/filename.png and be sure to over write the images when you upload. If you have a custom skin or a skin other than the vBulletin default those files can be in a different place depending upon the designer. Some designers put the files in a directory with the skin name on it, some put them in a directory called "styles" and so on. The best easiest way to find out where those files are located is to go to your FORUMHOME and right click on an icon and choose "view Image" then look in your top bar for the pathway to that image.

2. Clear the cache in vBulletin do this by going to Maintenance > Clear System Cache. That will clear the cache in vBulletin.

3. Clear your browser cache. This will depend on what browser you are using. I'm sure you can google that if you need that info.

4. If, for some reason it still does not work try clearing your cache in your PC to do this just google "clear cache in windows _______" or whatever OS you are running.I got the forum_new-48.png one working from the old site.

http://www.aspenandvolare.com/images/statusicon/forum_new-48.png

[HM666]

The saga continues....what the heck is forumrunner? In admincp it prompts me to get the site key at forumrunner.com.

Its vBulletin's answer to Tapatalk I believe. It allows your members to use an App on other devices to view, post and use your forum. If you want to disable it go to Plugins & Products > Manage Products > Forum Runner and click the drop down to your far right choosing "Disable". Then click the "Go" button if it does not automatically refresh.


I got the forum_new-48.png one working from the old site.

http://www.aspenandvolare.com/images/statusicon/forum_new-48.png

When you say from the old site do you mean you have left those icons in the old directory or you moved them to the new installation? In order for them to work properly you will need to make sure that they are in your new vBulletin 4 installation image directory.

Do you have a link to your site so that I can see if there is any code issue that might be causing your problems?

[cellarius]

Forumrunner never was IB's answer. Forumrunner was independent until IB bought it, and ruined it. It is dead now, and has been for quite some time.

[HM666]

Forumrunner never was IB's answer. Forumrunner was independent until IB bought it, and ruined it. It is dead now, and has been for quite some time.

Ah ok. I never have really been interested in using it so I never paid much attention to it myself. I always disabled it if I needed to. Did not realize that IB killed it too. :( Pretty sad...

[bremereric]

Its vBulletin's answer to Tapatalk I believe. It allows your members to use an App on other devices to view, post and use your forum. If you want to disable it go to Plugins & Products > Manage Products > Forum Runner and click the drop down to your far right choosing "Disable". Then click the "Go" button if it does not automatically refresh.



When you say from the old site do you mean you have left those icons in the old directory or you moved them to the new installation? In order for them to work properly you will need to make sure that they are in your new vBulletin 4 installation image directory.

Do you have a link to your site so that I can see if there is any code issue that might be causing your problems?

www.aspenandvolare.com

[HM666]

www.aspenandvolare.com

Did you clear the site cache in the AdminCP? I think I had posted the directions to that earlier in the thread. Try uploading the image again, make sure of these things before/as you do...

1. Make sure the image names are exactly the same. Check them to be sure.

2. If they are then upload the image again but this time I would say back up the old image (download it to your PC) & then delete the old image first and then upload the new image.

3. Clear your cache again in the AdminCP...go to Maintenance > Clear System Cache

4. Go to your FORUMHOME page and hard refresh your screen click CTRL + F5 or CTRL + refresh button in the browser.

[bremereric]

Did you clear the site cache in the AdminCP? I think I had posted the directions to that earlier in the thread. Try uploading the image again, make sure of these things before/as you do...

1. Make sure the image names are exactly the same. Check them to be sure.

2. If they are then upload the image again but this time I would say back up the old image (download it to your PC) & then delete the old image first and then upload the new image.

3. Clear your cache again in the AdminCP...go to Maintenance > Clear System Cache

4. Go to your FORUMHOME page and hard refresh your screen click CTRL + F5 or CTRL + refresh button in the browser.I got someone to photo shop the images and they are working fine now.

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Now why this? Time on my computer and in admincp is set for central time. This is from the bottom of the forum.

All times are GMT. The time now is 12:15 AM.

Powered by vBulletin? Version 4.2.3
Copyright ? 2015 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved

[HM666]

I got someone to photo shop the images and they are working fine now.

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Now why this? Time on my computer and in admincp is set for central time. This is from the bottom of the forum.

All times are GMT. The time now is 12:15 AM.

Powered by vBulletin? Version 4.2.3
Copyright ? 2015 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved

Go to Settings > Options > Date & Time Options and set the correct time there.

For help with settings: https://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html

[bremereric]

Go to Settings > Options > Date & Time Options and set the correct time there.

For help with settings: https://www.vbulletin.com/docs/htmlIt is set to central time. I am on hold with the hosting company to see. Three different browsers say the same time.

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This is the settings I have in the admin cp.

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad26/bremereric/More%20car%20stuff/ScreenHunter_38%20Oct.%2008%2021.32.jpg

[John Lester]

Check the time zone settings for the account (in the profile) you see the discrepancy on.

[bremereric]

Check the time zone settings for the account (in the profile) you see the discrepancy on.Your right but for some reason I still have to pick eastern time to display the correct time. -5 GMT I should be using -6 GMT.

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Man IE sucks on my forum. I have to use goggle or firefox.

[bremereric]

Question is CMS. I did my home page in the Articles section. Before I upgraded to new I had a new post widget, a new articles widget and so on. Now I have only the main article section. does anyone have some down and dirty fixes to add the same as above. CMS section had no help files or such for help with it.

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https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2015/10/5.jpg~original (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/bremereric/media/More%20car%20stuff/ScreenHunter_41%20Oct.%2010%2016.55.jpg.html)

[HM666]

You may need to re-add them to the layout. You decided to do a fresh install right instead of the upgrade? There maybe a way to import the old widgets into the new install with some database queries but I have no idea what you should use.

[bremereric]

You may need to re-add them to the layout. You decided to do a fresh install right instead of the upgrade? There maybe a way to import the old widgets into the new install with some database queries but I have no idea what you should use.Here is another, sorry for some of the stupid questions but how do I change the ten needed to post to something like 2. A short post like two words less than ten will post a error box stating that your post is too short.

[HM666]

Settings > Options > Message Posting And Editing Options....Minimum Characters Per Post.

[bremereric]

Look I messed with the widgets and stuff last night and got the home page left sidebar widget to work.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2015/10/3.jpg~original (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/bremereric/media/More%20car%20stuff/ScreenHunter_43%20Oct.%2011%2007.36.jpg.html)

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I want to change the Article tab to read Home. What template do I need to edit. I have been going through several of them already.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2015/10/4.jpg~original (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/bremereric/media/More%20car%20stuff/ScreenHunter_46%20Oct.%2011%2008.02.jpg.html)

[HM666]

No template to edit at all just go to the Navigation area. Settings > Navigational Manager.

[bremereric]

No template to edit at all just go to the Navigation area. Settings > Navigational Manager.Thanks again. I can't believe how much I am learning. It's hard starting over but so far well worth it.

[John Lester]

Your right but for some reason I still have to pick eastern time to display the correct time. -5 GMT I should be using -6 GMT.

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Man IE sucks on my forum. I have to use goggle or firefox.

Toggle the site wide DST setting off and then exit the ACP and log out. Then login again and re-enable the DST setting. I had to do that once when I moved servers.

[bremereric]

What controls the time that new posts are new and then they are not new. Meaning that you post something and then comeback and it says there are no new posts. Another newbie question.

[HM666]

Not sure I follow you.

[Seven Skins]

What controls the time that new posts are new and then they are not new. Meaning that you post something and then comeback and it says there are no new posts. Another newbie question.

It is controlled by the cookie setting etc...
It is in general setting and Thread Forum Read Marking