Why vbulletin 5 has a few modifications?

[arshadeomran]

Hi guys,
I recently (one month ago) upgrade 4 to 5.1.7. I am very worried, because Site visits have dropped sharply.
I think vb5 isn't user friendly rather than vb 4. vb 4 has so much modifications such as last threads, chat box, ... whereas vb 5 (vb 5.1.7) has no modifications!
Why vbulletin developers don't work on vb5' modifications? with this situations vb5 can't progress!

[ForceHSS]

This has been asked and answered before also many have been told not to go to vb5 but so many never listen

[TheLastSuperman]

vBulletin removed the plugin system the developers used to eaily create complex modifications, that's pretty much it, read more here:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum/vbulletin-5-connect/vbulletin-5-connect-questions-problems-troubleshooting/vbulletin-5-support-issues-questions/4204958-how-to-add-php-code-with-plugins-or-hooks

Vote to bring some form of decent system back here:
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-10333

If I were you, depending on traffic and posts etc... would revert to vB4 before it becomes too late HOWEVER that's what I feel you should do based on your feedback above because I feel you won't be happy with vB5 if you were used to vB4 and thought that by upgrading you get the same thing but "better" which sadly is not the case - different is exactly that, different.

[Max Taxable]

Hi guys,
I recently (one month ago) upgrade 4 to 5.1.7. I am very worried, because Site visits have dropped sharply.
I think vb5 isn't user friendly rather than vb 4. vb 4 has so much modifications such as last threads, chat box, ... whereas vb 5 (vb 5.1.7) has no modifications!
Why vbulletin developers don't work on vb5' modifications? with this situations vb5 can't progress!This is why "upgrading" just for the sake of upgrading buries you, quite often. Trying to be cool and hip, and have all the newest gadgets.

Research before the fact, and also having a truly COMPELLING reason to "upgrade" are your friends.

[arshadeomran]

Based on feedback and this comments, I'll downgrade to vb 4.
Thanks guys.

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Oh. Shit!
I have no back up of vb 4 database!
How can I downgrade?!:(

[Max Taxable]

Based on feedback and this comments, I'll downgrade to vb 4.
Thanks guys.

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Oh. Shit!
I have no back up of vb 4 database!
How can I downgrade?!:(You're screwed.

[ForceHSS]

Always backup before any big upgrade

[Paul M]

Why vbulletin developers don't work on vb5' modifications?
vBulletin developers have never worked on modifications.
(except maybe the odd one in their spare time, but not officially)


I have no back up of vb 4 database!
How can I downgrade?!:(
In simple terms, you cannot.
While the upgrade does not remove any old, unused tables, it does alters a few.
The data in those tables is no longer vB4 compatible, making it very difficult to go backwards.

[Replicant]

VB5 to VB4 is possible. If your database has value, there are a few who can help get you back on VB4 for a price. Put in a paid request if you are really interested in going back. I have personally made the downgrade from 5 to 4 as an experiment and the result was acceptable however, I am not interested in doing the work involved in the the downgrade.

[TheLastSuperman]

VB5 to VB4 is possible. If your database has value, there are a few who can help get you back on VB4 for a price. Put in a paid request if you are really interested in going back. I have personally made the downgrade from 5 to 4 as an experiment and the result was acceptable however, I am not interested in doing the work involved in the the downgrade.

This is true, many do offer services to "downgrade" however its usually costly and I have yet to hear of anyone offering it at an affordable price point and by that I mean why spend money paying someone to write a custom script when Invision Power Board (IPB) has a vB5 converter so to sum it up....

- Don't pay if their "conversion" is expensive, instead purchase IPB use its converter then simply use impex and do a 360 and go right back into vBulletin. It's clean, the converter works fine.
- If they're not charging that much then by all means do so if you wish just be sure to run backups beforehand.

So you can pay someone IF not tooooo expensive OR you can purchase yet another software but imo at least then you have a another forum alternative and something for your actual money i.e. a product you retain versus a service performed once.