Comments per Post (Comments for Single Posts)

[Cedric_FP]

Hey,

Does anybody know of a mod that allows comments per post? That is, you can create comments on a single post?

Is this a particularly difficult project to code?

Thanks.

[ozzy47]

Perhaps this mod, https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=243767

[Cedric_FP]

Thanks, Ozzy, but it seems to me that mod isn't working properly with later versions of VB.

This particular feature would be very useful and is making me consider switching to Xenforo or IPB. I wonder why it was removed from VB5.

[ozzy47]

Well there is alot vB5 don't have that it should, but that is a whole other topic. :)

Perhaps you can pay someone to make it work correctly. If so you can post the request in the Requests for Paid Services (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=30)
forum.

[Replicant]

I wonder why it was removed from VB5.

VB5 has comments per post. There is a comment button on every post in my forum (5.1.4), unless you mean something different.

[ozzy47]

True, that option is available in vB5, as you can see here, http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum/vbulletin-sales-and-feedback/vbulletin-pre-sales-questions/4238187-advice-from-vbulletin-users-wanted-which-version-should-i-use-4-or-5?p=4238645#post4238645

[Cedric_FP]

Oh, I had thought they removed it! Thanks. But after doing some reading, I'm not sure I want to upgrade to VB5. It seems there is a lot of controversy about its state.

[ozzy47]

In my honest opinion, I would not. I would stick with vB4 as long as possible. :)

[Replicant]

I like VB5 and see potential for it in the future when people get used to the coding style. Features like the comments which we use heavily on my site are what I like about it. A lot of the issues people have with VB5 including myself, are self induced by messing with settings that should not be messed with. For example, the channel member and channel owner permissions settings among others. I agree they should be able to be modified, but should be available in an advanced AdminCP state with a warning stating the issues that may arise from changing them.

Current developers may not like it or even ever write code for it, but new developers coming in on VB5 who take the time to learn the coding structure will eventually replace the void. It's not impossible to write code for VB5, it's just different. Good documentation would help bring developers to the platform. IMO, this is just as big of a problem if not more than the missing hook system.

[ozzy47]

It's been to years and no new developers have come in yet. Where are these developers going to come from?

[Replicant]

It's been to years and no new developers have come in yet. Where are these developers going to come from?

Where did the previous developers come from?
Most likely technically minded users who needed some functionality that wasn't offered so they did it themselves, then shared or sold what they came up with. I don't think anyone really decides "I wanna be a Vbulletin coder when I grow up". They do it out of necessity and become a developer over time.

I apologize for going off topic.

[ozzy47]

Ohh, I thought you knew something I didn't. :)

TBH, thw way things are going, I doubt there will be a big turn around. In the last year alone, vBulletins market share of commercial forum software has went from 68.3% to 57.9%, a 10.4% drop. Also, the percentage of vBulletin installs that are running vB5 is only 1.4% which has only increases about 0.5% in a year.

Now take into account that there is quite a few sites out therre running vB5 in the cloud, they can't use mods on their sites, like you could running it on your own server. So those users will never need mods that you might like.

Bottom line is, there are less and less users using vBulletin over all, and the amount of sites running vB5 is dismal. If they were to clean up the code so it was not such a mess, and add the hooks system back in, like it is in vB3 and vB4 series, perhaps a few people will develop mods for vB5, but it will not be like it is now. :(

[Max Taxable]

Where did the previous developers come from?
Most likely technically minded users who needed some functionality that wasn't offered so they did it themselves, then shared or sold what they came up with. I don't think anyone really decides "I wanna be a Vbulletin coder when I grow up". They do it out of necessity and become a developer over time.

I apologize for going off topic.There will be no such necessity. Since v5 is a dog, and will always and ever be, a dog.

You talk about people not understanding the coding - of course we do. It reminds me of a Reagan quote:

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. A anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."

We DO understand. That's the point. You think people are stupid out here?

Meanwhile what is the incentive to develop for a platform which already alienated a whole army of volunteer developers it once had? You kidding?

[ozzy47]

Also look at the activity on this site alone. Back four years ago, there were literally hundreds of users online at any given time, usually 300+ ( https://web.archive.org/web/20100103191024/https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/index.php ) now you are not likely to see it break 100.

The users were more in tune with going on within the site. There was hundreds of users voting in the MOTM threads ( https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=229223 ), now you will find it difficult to break 50.

Things were good back in the day, but once vBulletin was sold from Jelsoft to Internet Brands, and then the lawsuit with another software company, things went downhill.

I doubt by the end of 2015 that there will be 100 working mods for vB5, as it is now about only 50.

[Replicant]

We DO understand. That's the point. You think people are stupid out here?


Really?:confused: I don't recall inferring that anyone was stupid or not understanding the code.
I simply stated my opinion on the subject not intending on calling anyone out, but to answer your question, I didn't used to think so.

Nice choice for a quote by the way, Reagan was my favorite President.:up:

[Max Taxable]

I didn't used to think so.Me either until I started seeing the annual one person who would espouse vBulletin 5 as a valid platform...

[Replicant]

Me either until I started seeing the annual one person who would espouse vBulletin 5 as a valid platform...

Just think, if VB3 had post comments, this entire conversation could have been in one post instead of derailing the thread.:cool:

[Max Taxable]

Just think, if VB3 had post comments, this entire conversation could have been in one post instead of derailing the thread.:cool:You've..... Seen things we people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion....