Signature Permission Issues

[XGC Paravain]

I have my regular usergroups set up for one Signature, but another usergroup set up for 2 signatures,

When a member is taking out of the usergroup set for 2 signatures and kept in the usergroup set up for 1 signature that member still has 2 signatures,

Please help!!!

[cellarius]

Since default vB supports only 1 signature, you use an addon for this. So you need to ask this in the addon thread.

[XGC Paravain]

Since default vB supports only 1 signature, you use an addon for this. So you need to ask this in the addon thread.

True but I created a usergroup allowing 4 sig. but when members are taking out of that usergroup they should go back to the default 1 sig. but their not they still have 4 sigs

I didn't do any addons for this just usergroup permissions.

[cellarius]

And what setting would that be allowing users to have 4 different signatures?

[tbworld]

True but I created a usergroup allowing 4 sig


You can set the number of images per signature in the usergroup manager, is this what you are referring too as signatures?

[XGC Paravain]

You can set the number of images per signature in the usergroup manager, is this what you are referring too as signatures?

Yes that's exactly the way I set the usergroup, for a subscription usergroup members are allowed 4 sigs. but when the subscription runs out, members are removed from that usergroup where you can not have 4 sigs. only 1, but members that get removed from that usergroup still have 4 sigs. and im not understanding why.

[XGC Paravain]

Still having issues with this if any one has a solution it would be greatly appreciated thank you

[tbworld]

Still having issues with this if any one has a solution it would be greatly appreciated thank you

1.) Are you saying their old posts still display four signatures?
2.) Or are you saying that after being removed from a user-group, they can still add four signatures?
3.) Are these secondary user-groups they are being added and removed from?

[XGC Paravain]

1.) Are you saying their old posts still display four signatures?
2.) Or are you saying that after being removed from a user-group, they can still add four signatures?
3.) Are these secondary user-groups they are being added and removed from?

First question, there new posts they still have 4, I went to that members profile and still showing all 4 sig.

Second question, I did a test with a test account and no they can't add 4 sigs. when removed from the usergroup, but if they have 4 sig. before being removed they still have all 4 sigs. after they are removed.

When a member pays for the membership their put into the membership usergroup/Primary Usergroup when the membership is up and they are removed they go back to Registered Member/Primary Usergroup

[cellarius]

First of all, I'd really appreciate if you would speak of sigpics, not sigs. This is not about 4 signatures, but about signature pictures, and it confuses me all the time if you go on about people having 4 signatures.

Second: The number of sigpics is checked against permissions when the signature is created. If the user has permission to use 4 sigpics at the time of creation, he can create a signature with 4 pictures. This signature then is used until he changes it, nom matter what permission changes happen until then. Only when changing the signature the number of pics is checked again. There is no way that I'm aware of to change the signature automatically when the permission is revoced.

It may be possible through an addon - you might have to remove the signature as a whole. Possibly using regex it would also be possible to only remove the last three sigpics.

[tbworld]

Thanks @Cellarius,
I was just looking into this, and you are right about the confusion. I interpreted the question meaning 4 lines in the signature editor, which is also an option. Nevertheless you answer still applies as I was going to write up something similar, but maybe not as elegant.

What table is the signature text stored? I can find "sigparsed", but the users signature text eludes me at the moment. :)

[CAG CheechDogg]

Thanks @Cellarius,
I was just looking into this, and you are right about the confusion. I interpreted the question meaning 4 lines in the signature editor, which is also an option. Nevertheless you answer still applies as I was going to write up something similar, but maybe not as elegant.

What table is the signature text stored? I can find "sigparsed", but the users signature text eludes me at the moment. :)

That's the table where the text is also stored together side by side with the sigpic ...

--------------- Added 1403426678 at 1403426678 ---------------

The column is signatureparsed

[tbworld]

Thanks @CheechDogg, I finally found it in table 'usertextfield' in vb4. Thanks for the reply.

In table "sigpic", I ony see the image data in vb4.

Are you running vb3 or vb4?

[CAG CheechDogg]

You are welcome !

I'm running vb4 tbworld .... and yes I see what you are talking about now ...

[XGC Paravain]

Bottom line @Cellarius is right. Of course I thought the original poster was talking about the number of lines allowed in the editor, which in theory looks like you could write a modification to parse the "signature" column for 'cr/lf' and then clear the signature cache. @Cellarius translated the OP as images (which I think is what he was asking about -- I had it wrong), I haven't looked at the code for that issue. Anyway, no quick fix.

I have never explored or used the signature section of vbulletin's code. I have never allowed the use of it on my boards, mainly because I was naive in this area on how the members would abuse it. :)

The number of lines in the text editor could be the issue, I know in the permissions I have every usergroup set at 1 Signature except for 2 usergroups, Multimedia I have set for 2 Signatures and the paid membership set for 4 Signatures.

Custom Avatars work fine when a member is in the same paid membership usergroup they are allowed a custom avatar and when a member is removed from that usergroup their avatar goes back to a default avatar just fine, I just don't see why the Sigs or Sigpics don't do the same.

Here is a print screen of a member that has been removed from the membership usergroup but sill has 4 sigpics

[XGC Paravain]

First of all, I'd really appreciate if you would speak of sigpics, not sigs. This is not about 4 signatures, but about signature pictures, and it confuses me all the time if you go on about people having 4 signatures.

Second: The number of sigpics is checked against permissions when the signature is created. If the user has permission to use 4 sigpics at the time of creation, he can create a signature with 4 pictures. This signature then is used until he changes it, nom matter what permission changes happen until then. Only when changing the signature the number of pics is checked again. There is no way that I'm aware of to change the signature automatically when the permission is revoced.

It may be possible through an addon - you might have to remove the signature as a whole. Possibly using regex it would also be possible to only remove the last three sigpics.

About the sigs and sigpics the you mentioned above, sorry I didn't know the terminology you were looking for, sorry for me shotcoming

[tbworld]

As @cellarius elegantly pointed out, and I can completely confirm, that it is not possible without additional code to make this work. It is not a bug with the vbulletin code, but how the code was designed. You can argue whether the code should have been designed in this fashion, but that yields useless results. That being said it looks like the idea is probable.

It would have been a nice option for a subscription mode as you have demonstrated and sorry, I could not find a quick solution for you. Please take care :)

--------------- Added 22 Jun 2014 at 08:48 ---------------

About the sigs and sigpics the you mentioned above, sorry I didn't know the terminology you were looking for, sorry for me shotcoming

Don't worry about it, we are all learning, but thanks for caring. :)

[cellarius]

About the sigs and sigpics the you mentioned above, sorry I didn't know the terminology you were looking for, sorry for me shotcoming
We already cleared that in #5 and #6 in this thread, didn't we? No use discussing it all over again :)

[XGC Paravain]

We already cleared that in #5 and #6 in this thread, didn't we? No use discussing it all over again :)

Are you serious?

[cellarius]

You can set the number of images per signature in the usergroup manager, is this what you are referring too as signatures?

Yes that's exactly the way I set the usergroup
Yes, I am.

That's were we established we're talking sigpics here, and in the posts before it got quite clear that we all were pretty confused by your talk about "four signatures".

See, we're reading and answering many threads a day, and do not necessarily remember everything about them. Why make our lives harder by not clearly saying what things are about?

[XGC Paravain]

Yes, I am.

That's were we established we're talking sigpics here, and in the posts before it got quite clear that we all were pretty confused by your talk about "four signatures".

See, we're reading and answering many threads a day, and do not necessarily remember everything about them. Why make our lives harder by not clearly saying what things are about?

I really don't think my problem is with Sigpics if the is what loading a image from your computer files, these 4 sigs are all [IMG]Codes[IMG] I believe sigpic you can only upload 1 image I will have to check that

[cellarius]

Well, my post explaining how signature permissions work still applies.

[XGC Paravain]

Well, my post explaining how signature permissions work still applies.

Can it be fix?

[ozzy47]

Have you tried running, Maintenance --> General Update Tools --> Empty Signature Cache

If you have made changes that affect the output of signatures, you may use this to empty the cache and force signatures to be rebuilt with the new settings.

[cellarius]

Does this really help? As far as I know, this only rebuilds existing signatures, but does not check for permission changes. But the OP should definietely give it a try.

Can it be fixed? Well, its not exactly broken - it just does not offer the feature you require. Probably one could try to run a cron checking all existing signtures against the current permission set, or try a plugin checking all signatures concerned when usergroup changes occur. But both would not be trivial, given you would have to then block the signatures in some way and notify the user. Simply deleting would probably lead to some very unhappy users (and rightly so).

[ozzy47]

I am not sure if it is going to help, but it's witch a shot.